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Q: Nvidia Geforce 650m driver problem for windows 8.1 on macbook pro

Hey guys. I installed windows 8.1 on my macbook pro (mid2012, Intel core i7, retina, Geforce 650m) of course only for game, but I have a disappointing problem with the graphics driver. First I tried to instal graphics card driver by bootcamp (not the last version, the one before the last) .It started to install drivers one by one starting with graphics card, but suddenly the screen got black and remained black forever! I restarted the windows and guess what! after windows logo it got black and nothing more! Then I installed windows again and tried to install driver from windows update. It checked for update and found the driver for it and downloaded it and started to install, but again the black screen !!! Please help me thanks.

Posted on Jul 13, 2014 1:25 PM

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Q: Nvidia Geforce 650m driver problem for windows 8.1 on macbook pro

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  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 22, 2015 7:29 AM in response to DemetriAA
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    Mar 22, 2015 7:29 AM in response to DemetriAA

    Does your Device Manager show both GPUs with EFI Install of Windows?

  • by DemetriAA,

    DemetriAA DemetriAA Mar 22, 2015 7:32 AM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 22, 2015 7:32 AM in response to Loner T

    yes it does. and once you install the correct geforce drivers, usually the screen goes blank because it thinks you are on a dual monitor setup and you cant change anything. sometimes you can get it to boot up properly, but it still thinks you have 2 monitors (it thinks you are on monitor 2) and the sound wont work because the intel hd 4000 drivers go a bit crazy.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 22, 2015 8:08 AM in response to DemetriAA
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    Mar 22, 2015 8:08 AM in response to DemetriAA

    DemetriAA wrote:

     

    yes it does. and once you install the correct geforce drivers, usually the screen goes blank because it thinks you are on a dual monitor setup and you cant change anything. sometimes you can get it to boot up properly, but it still thinks you have 2 monitors (it thinks you are on monitor 2) and the sound wont work because the intel hd 4000 drivers go a bit crazy.

    Is this using Bootcamp drivers or nVidia drivers? This also implies that Windows GPU switching is not working as desired. The OS should be able to handle this scenario correctly, as OS X does, by relinquishing the nVidia GPU when only the internal display is connected. There is some discussion regarding this in reference to nVidia CUDA toolkit on nVidia Dev forums which you can look at.

     

    The Sound issue is related to the Intel drivers, not Bootcamp drivers.

  • by DemetriAA,

    DemetriAA DemetriAA Mar 22, 2015 10:30 AM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 22, 2015 10:30 AM in response to Loner T

    its the nvidia drivers from the bootcamp driver package

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 22, 2015 2:36 PM in response to DemetriAA
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    Mar 22, 2015 2:36 PM in response to DemetriAA

    The culprit is more likely the OS, rather than the drivers. As a test disable/uninstall the Intel driver and test.

  • by metaphysician67,

    metaphysician67 metaphysician67 Mar 28, 2015 1:34 PM in response to DemetriAA
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:34 PM in response to DemetriAA

    i think i am also in the same boat (mid 2012  rMBP 15" with Intel4000/650M). the install was previously BIOS based using Windows 7 and then upgraded to version 8.1 and transferred uisng Winclone to a external EFI boot drive, which boots fine. then sometime later i had the occasion/need to get the Nvidia 650m working in Windows, and like doofus i went to Nvidia's site and downloaded the driver which black-screened just after starting installation.

     

    after agonizing hours recovering from that (basically trying to time the F8 Boot menu keystroke on startup when booting it (it's on an SSD), but not impossible to do - just really really tricky), i removed the driver files, then  i went and downloaded the latest BootCamp version mentioned previously, which then also black screened during install.

     

    after several more agonizing hours recovering and wiping every trace of that previous driver install via Regedit and other tools, i tried installing the older 5.0.5033 Bootcamp, that at least didn't black screen but the NVIDIA driver failed install (refused) even doing it manually after the fact. still have no sound either, but at this point i'm giving up. it's not a primary machine or install, but it really irks me nonetheless. i avoided getting one of the Iris Pro MBPs because of the cost and non-upgradability but this isn't a much better situation either.

     

    anyway, just saying that i'm in the same boat as everybody else. wish there was a better/more reliable solution.

     

    scott

  • by Van Thu,

    Van Thu Van Thu Apr 7, 2015 7:46 PM in response to metaphysician67
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    Apr 7, 2015 7:46 PM in response to metaphysician67

    Iam also in the rMBR 15' Mid 2012, however I format my SSD and do clean install Windows 8.1 and it's working in EFI with only nvidia GPU.

     

    Iam using Bootcamp 5.1.5621:

    - Working: Nvidia GPU, internal sound, sleep, resume, trackpad..

    - Non-working: The intel GPU, Headset sound, Apple Thunderbolt to network Adapter (I replace with an USB network).

    Anyone know how to have Headset sound please let me know, thanks.

     

    Here is the Device Manager:

    Capture.PNG

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 8, 2015 6:49 AM in response to Van Thu
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    Apr 8, 2015 6:49 AM in response to Van Thu

    Your 2012 MBP is preUEFI. Devices are not exposed correctly via EFI, but they are, when using CSM-BIOS. On a 2012 13 MBP, this is what a BT-paired headset looks like.

     

    W8.1-Motorola-S9-1.PNG

    W8.1-Motorola-S9-2.PNG

     

    W8.1-Motorola-S9-DeviceManager.PNG

     

    W8.1-Motorola-S9-Stereo.PNG

  • by zoya83,

    zoya83 zoya83 Apr 10, 2015 4:05 PM in response to vahid18u
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    Apr 10, 2015 4:05 PM in response to vahid18u

    I have issue like this as well, but still not quite like it. My screen doesn't go black, but other things go dark (and text and apps are very, very small).

     

    Another thing that concerns me is that neither my Nvidia Geforce 650M or intel hd 4000 are visible in my Device Manager's Display Adapter.
    I have installed Windows 8.1. I have a MBP Retina 15" - early 2013.

    I installed Windows because I wanted to play Sims 3, but the game is dark and lags all the time. A message keeps popping up says that the game can't recognize my graphic card. But it's not even visible in my Display Adapter! Does anyone have a clue what to do?

     

    People also say that this is an issue in Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Was it not like this with Windows 7? If that is the case I will install Windows 7 instead, but I would appreciate if someone knew (so I don't do it without being necessary, so to speak), and could let me know.

     

    Thanks guys!

     

    Update: I checked my Display Adapter now. When I start Windows in VMware-mode I have "VMware SVGA 3D" in my Display Adapter-folder. When I start Windows in the Alt key-mode (from where I am going to run Sims 3, so this is what matters) I have "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" in my Display Adapter. What's up with that? I saw one of the pictures you guys (Van Thu, i think it was) uploaded, and there were Nvidia visible. How did you do that??

  • by DemetriAA,

    DemetriAA DemetriAA Apr 10, 2015 4:24 PM in response to zoya83
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    Apr 10, 2015 4:24 PM in response to zoya83

    The brightness issue is probably windows 8 adaptive brightness, here is a guide to disable it

    http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/34067/~/enable-or-disable-a daptive-brightness-in-windows-8-and-8.1

     

    Your windows are small because windows supports higher resolutions than osx. You can magnify the windows in the display  settings of the control panel. 125-150x should mosty fix it but some apps will look messed up

     

    As for missing hardware devices, the Bootcamp drivers should fix it, if not than try getting the drivers from nvidia and Intel online.  If that doesn't fix it than maybe give up on the efi boot and go mbr instead

  • by zoya83,

    zoya83 zoya83 Apr 10, 2015 5:28 PM in response to DemetriAA
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    Apr 10, 2015 5:28 PM in response to DemetriAA

    Thanks for a quick answer, DemetriAA.
    I know exactly nothing about Windows - even less about Windows 8 - since I haven't used it since the XP-version. I am trying to learn. It annoys me a lot that my game can't find my graphic cards and that it is not visible in the Display Adapter. Despite that the apps and the text are small (mostly in the VMware-mode) the graphics runs great on Windows, it's just in my game.

    I am mostly worrying about my missing graphic cards, though. They are hiding from me, and I don't like it. My brother tried to download the drivers from Nvidia, but when he ran them the installation stopped. He looked in Devicer Manager, and was confused when he couldn't find anything in the Display Adapter.

     

    I don't have access to internet either, only when I run windows with VMware (with OS X in the background). When I run windows without OS X (opening it up with the alt key) I have no internet connection. Windows can not locate either mine nor my neighbors wi-fi. There is just... nothing. Do I need drivers for internet as well, or what's going on there?? As said earlier; I know pretty much NOTHING about Windows...
    Its just so annoying.

     

    Well, I will check your link and tips up, DemetriAA. Thanks!

     

    Ps. The most stupid question of them all; efi boot and mbr? What's that? (Yes, I know NOTHING about this technological stuff.... especially not some of the english expressions. Swedish, you see...)

     

    Edit:

    I went to Nvidias site to check the drives. I did this "Auto-detect your GPU". The scan searched my Windows 8-system and detected none Nvidia-products. Is that normal???

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 10, 2015 5:31 PM in response to zoya83
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    Apr 10, 2015 5:31 PM in response to zoya83

    There are two methods of installing Windows on a Mac.

     

    1. Macs before the Late 2013 versions are not compliant with Intel's Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI). These Macs mimic PCs by emulating BIOS using a compatibility layer called CSM-BIOS.

     

    2. On macs after 2013, you can use EFI boot, which is faster layer allowing drivers to communicate with hardware using a well defined and extensible set of APIs.

     

    Macs between 2011-2013 are in various stages of UEFI compliance, are partially capable of running Windows using method 2. It causes hardware to be invisible. This is causing to you to see a generic display adapter.

     

    You need to download drivers appropriate for you Mac model/year from System requirements to install Windows on your Mac via Boot Camp - Apple Support and Boot Camp: Install or repair Boot Camp drivers.

  • by zoya83,

    zoya83 zoya83 Apr 10, 2015 5:56 PM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 10, 2015 5:56 PM in response to Loner T

    Oh, I will try that. This doesn't make me have to re-install Windows, I hope?

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 10, 2015 6:28 PM in response to zoya83
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    Apr 10, 2015 6:28 PM in response to zoya83

    No, this just repairs the drivers for the Apple hardware. Do you see any entries in Windows Device Manager which have yellow triangles and exclamation marks?

     

    This is an example from an iMac5K before BC drivers were correctly installed.

     

    iMac5k-UnknownDevices.png

  • by zoya83,

    zoya83 zoya83 Apr 10, 2015 6:45 PM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 10, 2015 6:45 PM in response to Loner T

    I installed the drivers from System requirements to install Windows on your Mac via Boot Camp - Apple Support this link. Now I got access to my wireless internet (so thank you!!!). I finally see Nvidia GeForce GT 650M in the Display Manager (thank  you AGAIN!!!) and in "Other Devices" is only something named SMS.

    I am oh so very grateful. I don't know if my Sims will work, though, but since I can find my Nvidia I Think it should. Do you Think I should download and run the Nvidia-drivers from their website though? Or I don't have to do that now?

     

    Thank you again!!! You too, DemetriAA!

     

     

    Ps. My text are still very small on Explorer and sometimes in apps etc, but I could adjust that in the Control Panel, right?

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