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Q: Bootcamp issues, tried 9 times (rather long post)

Hi there,

I am having a real problem trying to install either Win7 Ultimate or Win8Pro on a boot-camp partition....I have rally tried about 9 times with no success, 6 times for Win7 and 3 fore Win8.

I start with the boot-camp assistant and do NOT set the opin to cerate a windows isntall disk, as I have trhe dvd's with me (although I did select that oprion on 2 of the occasions which also did not work.

With all of the Win7 attempts I have come up with a "please insert a boot-disk and press any key", or sometimes just a blank black screen.

 

The closed I get is with Win8 Pro and to get there I hadn ro reboot and hold the alst key down to selct a boot device, of which there are many but the a 2 windows ones, (one is the windows disk sitting in the DVD drive) and the other is an efi boot. I tried the windows disk biut got the same error, with the sentence insert a boot disk and press any key etc, so I thought I would try the efi boot, which then gave a me a message.pess any key to install from the DVD, which I did and then finally I get a  windows installation screen :-)

 

So all was going well with the install until I get to select the boot-camp drive to install to, and there is an error and you cannot install windows on the drive 0 partition 3, so I first formatted the disk form the install screen, but get the same error.

 

So, after looking in the internet and going back the the beginning, formatted the disk as ex fat, as it seemed this had worked for others online, but nope, still no lick with that.

 

I am using a 2 year old iMac under Mavericks and can dual boot to Yosemite, so have tried this with both versions of OSX.

 

Back when I had mountain lion/lion etc, I had successfully installed windows onto a boot-camp partition, but that disk eventually died and I did not have a spare win-clone copy.

 

I know I can use and have/do use VMware of similar, but some windows software will not install on a VM. Now you are probably wondering why on earth do you want to put windows on your mac i the first instance.....?

 

Easy answer for me, I get to run my windows apps natively on my awesome mac hardware :-)

 

Hope someone can help with an answer...?

 

kind regards

Rossco

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.5), null

Posted on Mar 22, 2015 11:52 PM

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  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 27, 2015 9:05 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 27, 2015 9:05 PM in response to Loner T

    Yep,

    not sata or PCI, although Yosemtie works fine with the external, can't install windows on it!

     

    you're right.......**** it...not sure what to try next...

     

    Cheers

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 5:15 AM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 5:15 AM in response to GrenadaV

    Can you post the output of the following Terminal commands? Do you have a Fusion drive?

     

    diskutil list

    diskutil cs list

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Loner T

    Here's the list.....

     

    But I also had another thought, you mention sata & pci disks foir the external under Yosemite option. In my external drives that sisk is a sata disk, so if I can connect the esata connection to the mac using an esata/thunderbolt adapter, would that be the same as connecting a sata drive?

     

    My newertech mini stacks have sata drive in them and my connector can be fw, usb3, esata etc...?

     

    I have not got all my externals &aside from time machine drives, turned on at present. No I don't beleive I have a fusion drive

     

    Diskutil list

     

     

    Last login: Sun Mar 29 07:33:38 on console

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD            999.9 GB   disk0s2

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *16.0 GB    disk1

       1:                 DOS_FAT_32 WININSTALL              16.0 GB    disk1s1

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *4.0 TB     disk2

       1:                        EFI EFI                     314.6 MB   disk2s1

       2:                  Apple_HFS Time Machine Yosemite   2.0 TB     disk2s2

    3:                  Apple_HFS CCCYosemity             2.0 TB     disk2s3

     

     

    Diskutil cs list

     

    Last login: Sun Mar 29 07:52:25 on ttys000

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ diskutil cs list

    No CoreStorage logical volume groups found

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 1:37 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:37 PM in response to GrenadaV

    You can try with the eSATA-to-TB or other adapters. OS X may not have appropriate drivers, but it is worth a test. You should be able to install Windows on the internal disk.

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 1:44 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:44 PM in response to Loner T

    Yes, well that would be my preference too...

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 2:44 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 2:44 PM in response to GrenadaV
    So all was going well with the install until I get to select the boot-camp drive to install to, and there is an error and you cannot install windows on the drive 0 partition 3, so I first formatted the disk form the install screen, but get the same error.

    Can you post the output of the following Terminal commands? Drive 0 Partition 3 is not normal, unless Recovery HD does not exist.

     

    sudo gpt -vv -r shwo /dev/disk0

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 3:08 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 3:08 PM in response to Loner T

    Yep,

    here they are...

     

    Last login: Sun Mar 29 11:04:25 on console

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ sudo gpt -vv -r shwo /dev/disk0

     

    WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss

    or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your

    typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.

     

    To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.

     

    Password:

    gpt: unknown command: shwo

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

    Disk: /dev/disk0    geometry: 121601/255/63 [1953525168 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 - 1953525167] <Unknown ID>

    2: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused    

    3: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused    

    4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused    

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 3:15 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 3:15 PM in response to GrenadaV

    Changed the spelling if your first command from shwo to show and this is the result

     

    Last login: Sun Mar 29 11:05:12 on ttys000

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: PMBR at sector 0

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

           start        size  index  contents

               0           1         PMBR

               1           1         Pri GPT header

               2          32         Pri GPT table

              34           6        

              40      409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

          409640  1952853344      2  GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      1953262984      262151        

      1953525135          32         Sec GPT table

      1953525167           1         Sec GPT header

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 4:14 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 4:14 PM in response to GrenadaV

    The output of Fdisk shows a single entry, so BCA failed to create a proper MBR.

     

    If you run BCA, are you allowed to partition and create a BC/Windows partition?

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 4:23 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 4:23 PM in response to Loner T

    Hi,

    yes I can create the partition and get to the stage where BCA reboots the mac to install windows, I just never the the windows instilation come up...

     

    and its rally getting to be a pain, must be 15+ attempts now....ggggrrrrr

     

    When I had my MacPro 5 years ago, I never had amything like this.....probably should have got the new mac pro instead of the imac, but in saying that, I do think my imac is awesome :-)....doesn't mean I won't get a MacPro though further down the track :-)

     

    Cheers
    Rossco

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 4:28 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 4:28 PM in response to GrenadaV

    Can you get to the stage where Windows installation fails and then we can look at the disk layout? Since you have an iMac 13,2, it should have a GPT partition and an MBR in place, which is where your problem stems from.

     

    Also, please make sure you are using a USB2 flash drive for drivers. USB3 will not work. A USB3 can cause failures where a Pre-Boot Windows environment does not exist for the Installer to work properly.

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 4:47 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 4:47 PM in response to Loner T

    Will start that process now and get  back...

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 5:36 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 5:36 PM in response to Loner T

    OK, here is is straight after the installation failed to start when BCA restarts with the intention of installing windows...I have run both the commands you gave me earlier......

     

    Last login: Sun Mar 29 13:28:19 on console

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

    Password:

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

           start        size index  contents

               0           1         MBR

               1           1         Pri GPT header

               2          32         Pri GPT table

              34           6        

              40      409600      1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

          409640  1456759584      2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      1457169224      263352        

      1457432576   496091136      3 GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

      1953523712        1423        

      1953525135          32         Sec GPT table

      1953525167           1         Sec GPT header

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

    Disk: /dev/disk0    geometry: 121601/255/63 [1953525168 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [ start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254 63 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

    2: AF 1023 254  63 - 1023 254 63 [    409640 - 1456759584] HFS+       

    3: 0B 1023 254  63 - 1023 254 63 [1457432576 -  496091136] Win95 FAT-32

    4: 00    0 0   0 -    0 0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    rosss-imac:~ rosshopkins$

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Mar 28, 2015 5:47 PM in response to GrenadaV
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    Mar 28, 2015 5:47 PM in response to GrenadaV

    The MBR and GPT are correct. Are you able to read your physical DVD on the OSX side?

     

    Please ensure your USB is USB2. You can plug it in on the OSX side and check under System Report -> USB and check under High-Speed, If it shows up elsewhere, it will not work.

  • by GrenadaV,

    GrenadaV GrenadaV Mar 28, 2015 6:05 PM in response to Loner T
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    Mar 28, 2015 6:05 PM in response to Loner T

    Yes I can read the physical DVD and its contents using both fire-wire 800 and usb3.

     

    And yes, plugged a usb2 stick directly into back of iMac...no hub.

     

    System report sees it in firewire and SS...

     

    Man I never had anything like this go so wrong for this long when I was a Windows user.....

     

     

    Cheers
    Rossco

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