CarlinhoBCN

Q: wrong time in Russian timezones

Hello everybody

My iPhone shows the right timezome: Moscow, but the time is wrong. Shows plus one hour.

This is because Russia changed the time in 2014, for example in Moscow/Saint Petersburg it's UTC+3, but my iPhone shows UTC+4.

Right now I'm in Saint Petersburg and my iPhone shows 16:30h, but real time is 15:30h.

I could set the time manually but would be better if the timezone would work as it should work.

How to fix it? WHO have to update this info in Apple servers?

Posted on Apr 8, 2015 5:33 AM

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  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Apr 8, 2015 7:56 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN
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    Apr 8, 2015 7:56 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN

    According to > iOS: Troubleshooting issues with date and time - Apple Support

    ... you need to

    • contact your cellular provider
    • set 'Automatic" to OFF in the meantime

    http://help.apple.com/iphone/8/#/iph70825e5ae < Date & Time in iPhone User Guide

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  • by CarlinhoBCN,

    CarlinhoBCN CarlinhoBCN Apr 12, 2015 8:09 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Apr 12, 2015 8:09 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    This happen also without SIM card, so isn't a cellular provider problem.

    I know that I could set the time manually, but would be better if the timezone would work as it should work.

    Seems that Russian timezones aren't updated in iOS (my iPhone is updated).

    Thanks anyway for your time

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Apr 12, 2015 10:24 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN
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    Apr 12, 2015 10:24 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN

    Looks like you will need to take it up with your shirtless President whose proclamation it was to defy the norms of the rest of the world. We have a couple of "rogue States" here in the U.S. - Arizona and Hawaii - which also have the same problem as you do.

     

    From an archived article on the issue with Hawaii > Daylight Saving Time: Locations That Do Not Observe

    The OS software...

    ... can only calculate differences between time zones relative to Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). ...

     

    ... there is no combination of settings in Map and Date & Time control panels which will enable you to display Hawaiian local time correctly AND concurrently display the correct time in other places that do observe DST.

    *Map and Date & Time are the older OS X equivalents to iOS - Settings >>> Locations and Date & Time

     

    This article is referencing iOS 7, but I do not know that anything has changed > iOS 7: Understanding Location Services - Apple Support

    Location Services uses a combination of cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS to determine your location. If you're not within a clear line of sight to GPS satellites, your device can determine your location using crowd-sourced Wi-Fi5 and cell tower locations or iBeacons.

    The emphasized phrase seems to indicate a Priority of methods used to get where you are, and thus calculate the Time Zone appropriate by its relation to GMT.

     

    Methinks you will just have to do it in your head. If Apple hasn't fixed the issue for its own home country States and Australia, it is not likely they will for Russia.

     

    best luck

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  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Apr 12, 2015 11:57 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN
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    Apr 12, 2015 11:57 AM in response to CarlinhoBCN

    All you can do is send feedback to Apple about updating their data base. Then manually change the time.  This problem has been appearing in the Forum since before Russia went to daylight davings time so I'm not sure where the problem lies.

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Apr 12, 2015 1:31 PM in response to bobseufert
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    Apr 12, 2015 1:31 PM in response to bobseufert

    AlohaBob

    As you can see, I did some Goggling prior to poking at you. It seems it is not a DataBase but rather a GPS (then descending other methods) then a calculation to GMT done deep in the code of all OS's location services. Russia may have a big enough installed base to warrant writing some if > then code into 'em all, but Arizona and you folks don't? There are other ways = bring back the ol' Use Daylight Savings Time check box !! Again, http://www.apple.com/feedback/

     

    Seems Most of the World doesn't observe the practice... What's with Australia?

    SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

    DaylightSaving-World-Subdivisions.png

    Although not used by the majority of the world's countries, daylight saving time is common in the Western world.

    blue =DST used

    orange = DST formerly used

    red = DST never used

     

    buenos tardes, amigo

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  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Apr 12, 2015 1:41 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Apr 12, 2015 1:41 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    If it is a GPS issue how come everybody in Russia (I asked)  has the wrong time and why was it correct before the change ? Since we don't know the source of the problem the easiest 100% effective fix is to manually set the time on the iPad/iPhone and send feedback.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Apr 12, 2015 2:18 PM in response to bobseufert
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    Apr 12, 2015 2:18 PM in response to bobseufert

    Yes. Manual = only solution.

    EDIToops - forgot the mandatory screenshot

    Picture 6.png Picture 1.png

    Source of the problem is "Automatic" relies on either an Apple server + manually picking my location (my case) or GPS to determine timezone. Then the equation is

    GMT(now DST in England) - MINUS - # of zones West of Greenwich

     

    The "Use DST" check box would fix it - unchecked for orange & red on the map - who cares what the default is chosen to be

     

    The concept was put forth by a New Zealander. It only makes sense for extreme latitudes. Farmers could care less what time it is... sun up > to work, sundown > go home

     

    Say, "La vee."

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