Q: Where are photo file names?
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Apr 9, 2015 8:14 AMby R C-R,Also note that once you have enabled Titles in the View>Metadata menu (or with the command-shift-T keyboard shortcut) you can add a title to a photo that doesn't have one by hovering the pointer over the white space below it. That will reveal in grey its "untitled' name. Click on that & type in the title right there.
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Apr 9, 2015 8:33 AMby thedatadude,I am not referring to photo "Titles" -- I am referring to photo filenames. In iPhoto, when "Titles" was selected under the View menu, the camera-assigned filenames would appear below the photos. You could then edit the "titles" as seen below:
In Photos, these "Titles" do not appear, even if View -> Metadata -> Titles is selected. The only way to see them is to in the "Info" panel, as you mentioned above. This makes the hours and hours of time I have spent over the years renaming photos' filenames to a more meaningful "title" in iPhoto totally wasted! You can't see the "titles" (i.e., renamed filenames) in any of the list displays in Photos -- and to make matter worse, since Photos does not include the renamed filenames created in iPhoto, you cannot use that information in searching for the photos!
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Apr 9, 2015 8:38 AMby thedatadude,Just to clarify -- it appears that when Photos imports images from iPhoto, it totally ignores any filename renaming that you have done. It simply does not import that information! So if you had a thousand photos in iPhoto that you "titled" by changing "IMG_2345" to "Fred in NYC", etc. -- all that work is completely lost because Photos completely ignores that information when it imports the images from iPhoto.
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Apr 9, 2015 9:21 AMby R C-R,Photos does import the filename -- it is visible in the Info window -- but the problem is basically that a filename of a photo doesn't really have anything to do with its title. (The title field is metadata stored within the photo file itself, while the filename is stored in the file system.) iPhoto displays the file name (less its extension) if the title metadata field is empty & supports searching on it; Photos does neither.
So what you need is a practical way to add the filename to the title field of the photo if you are to continue using your organizational scheme in the Photos app. This should be doable using Applescript with either iPhoto (before importing the photos into Photos.app) or afterwards with the Applescript support built into Photos.app. However, I do not have the time right now to write such a script myself (& I'm too rusty on Applescript to do it quickly even if I did) but I think someone will begin publishing scripts for this & similar needs in the days & weeks to come.
If you can't wait for that, it might be worth asking for help in the ASC Applescript forum, or in any of the other Applescript-oriented support sites on the web.
EDIT: I said that Photos doesn't support searching on a file name. I was wrong about that -- it does -- but that isn't of much help with this issue.
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by Washington Apples,HelpfulApr 9, 2015 10:19 AM
Washington Apples
Apr 9, 2015 10:19 AM
in response to thedatadude
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(18 points)
Photos for MacI have your exact same problem. Very frustrating. Perhaps the Apple software engineers could have foreseen this problem. Overall, Photos 1.0 is disappointing in many respects. Sadly, when you go to the Apple Feedback site, there is no option to give feedback on Photos. iPhoto is still listed on that page. Again, shouldn't someone have thought to update that page knowing users are going to have a lot of feedback about Photos 1.0.
If anyone comes up with a solution, please let us know. Here's a link to discussion of my question.
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Apr 9, 2015 10:40 AMby léonie,I am not referring to photo "Titles" -- I am referring to photo filenames. In iPhoto, when "Titles" was selected under the View menu, the camera-assigned filenames would appear below the photos. You could then edit the "titles" as seen below:
And that is what I am seeing in Photos - the iPhoto titles below the thumbnails:
In iPhoto, before migrating the library: The default version name remained in iPhoto's Title field:
And in Photos - the same name below the thumbnails, after migrating the iPhoto Library, clearly visible in the "Moments" view.
Toggling "View > Metadata > Titles" turns this on and off.
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Apr 9, 2015 11:32 AMby Washington Apples,Some of us are experiencing a situation where Toggling "View > Metadata > Titles does not solve the problem. Yes, it's a necessary step to make titles below photos visible, but, even with that, many photo titles are not appearing. Some do and some don't. In my case, any photo title from iPhoto that had a suffix such as .jpg, .tif, etc. DOES NOT APPEAR under the photo regardless of what is checked under Metadata.
Notice that "Add a Title" appears. The title (filename) was "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" in iPhoto and it appeared under the photograph. In Photos 1.0, however, it does not appear. One has to copy "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" and the paste it into the "Add a Title" field. Can you imagine doing this for thousands of photos?
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Apr 9, 2015 11:50 AMby léonie,Notice that "Add a Title" appears. The title (filename) was "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" in iPhoto and it appeared under the photograph. In Photos 1.0, however, it does not appear. One has to copy "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" and the paste it into the "Add a Title" field. Can you imagine doing this for thousands of photos?
That is clearly a bug.
The titles are supposed to be transferred, even if .jpg is part of the title.
Please file a bug report. Either use the feedback form or - more involved - the bug reporter: Detailed and Effective Bug Reporting | Apple Support Communities
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Apr 9, 2015 1:32 PMby thedatadude,Léonie,
As a further clarification, because this has huge implications for those of us that have "titled" thousands of photos in iPhoto, which are not carried over to the new Photos app:
Here is an example of a photo to which I edited the filename (D7K_2242) in iPhoto:
Note that the full title (which is actually the edited filename) appears in iPhoto.
Here is the same photo as it appears in Photos in the Moments view:
Here are my Metadata settings in Photos:
So..
--- Even when "titles" are turned on under Metadata
--- and when in the Moments view in Photos
The filename edited in iPhoto (="title") does not appear in Photos.
I have discovered one way to remedy this, but it is NOT a practical remedy when you have thousands of "titled" photos in iPhoto with lots of albums, etc.
--- In iPhoto: Select a photo, then: File -> Edit -> Export, with these settings:
Any other settings for Kind (e.g., Original) will result in the title not carried over to Photos. Here's how the above export looks in Photos:
As I said above, this is not a reasonable solution because among other things you can only export a file as a "jpeg" and not as an "Original", which was a "raw" file. So I guess off I go to report this as a "bug" to Apple.
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Apr 9, 2015 1:50 PMby léonie,I just tested - when I am doing the same in Aperture and migrate the Aperture library to Photos, the titles will migrate correctly, even with ".JPG" as part of the version name:
In Aperture: The edited version name below the image
In Photos: The added version names are shown as titles.
