JohnnyChin95

Q: os x yosemites 10.10.3 vs os x mavericks 10.9.5

Hi mac people,

I still on mavericks 10.9.5 and I happy with it, few day ago apple released 10.10.3 with photo, and I think I would like to give it a try, but first I need some real user's opinion, does it faster or slower compare to mavericks? and in yosemites dark mode, does it faster or still slower than mavericks?

most post or video on youtube are overwhelm by the new photos but they forget to compare the system speed, no one ever do that! so I have to ask it here!

please let me know what you think! I using a macbook pro 15 inch mid 2012 i7 2.3-3.3ghz quad core ,512mb 650m gpu, 4gb ram, does this enough to have a smooth yosemites experience?

I use my mac for design and video editing stuff, so I need a stable system!

thanks fellow mac user! have a nice day!

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Apr 14, 2015 6:15 PM

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Q: os x yosemites 10.10.3 vs os x mavericks 10.9.5

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Apr 14, 2015 6:22 PM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Apr 14, 2015 6:22 PM in response to JohnnyChin95

    Why don't you get an external drive or make a second partition on your HDD and install Yosemite on it. Then you can find out for yourself without changing your current system. If you upgrade Mavericks, then you can never return to it should you wish because it is no longer available for download.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Apr 14, 2015 6:29 PM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Apr 14, 2015 6:29 PM in response to JohnnyChin95

    If you do a lot of video editing and design stuff, you will want more RAM - 4 GB is considered to be about the minimum; make sure to get it from a recommended vendor: macsales.com (OWC) or Crucial.

  • by JohnnyChin95,

    JohnnyChin95 JohnnyChin95 Apr 14, 2015 6:31 PM in response to babowa
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    Apr 14, 2015 6:31 PM in response to babowa

    my area don't have crucial only corsair vengeance, does it great?

  • by JohnnyChin95,

    JohnnyChin95 JohnnyChin95 Apr 14, 2015 6:32 PM in response to Kappy
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    Apr 14, 2015 6:32 PM in response to Kappy

    you can downgrade! just find it in your purchase page you will see mavericks!

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Apr 14, 2015 6:39 PM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Apr 14, 2015 6:39 PM in response to JohnnyChin95

    You can only downgrade if you use internet recovery to erase your entire hard drive and then reinstall the original OS i- if that was the original OS, great. Or you can downgrade by erasing your hard drive and cloning back your Mavericks system.

     

    I am not familiar with the corsair vengeance RAM - I only buy mac specific RAM from either OWC or Crucial.

  • by JohnnyChin95,

    JohnnyChin95 JohnnyChin95 Apr 15, 2015 8:42 PM in response to babowa
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:42 PM in response to babowa

    Hi, I in a tight budget could you give me some opinion?

    I will do video & photo editing and programming on my macbook pro, I like to do some gaming record but due to weak graphic( 512mb nvidia 650m), so I will not do that only after I earned money to buy other powerful mac!

    so do you think i should mac out 16gb or 8gb will good for what I do?

    I know more ram will render video output faster, but it is ok if 8gb slower a bit than 16gb, since I can wait even for 4gb!!!

    will programming making app for mac and iPhone eat a lot ram?

     

    I interesting at this model(16gb), if it is not necessary I will pick same but 8gb,

    model no.: CMSX16GX3M2B1600C9

    http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Corsair_Vengeance_Laptop_Memory_DDR3L_SODI MM_CMSX16GX3M2B1600C9_16_GB_Corsair_Warr…

    thanks for helping me!

  • by babowa,Helpful

    babowa babowa Apr 15, 2015 9:31 PM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Apr 15, 2015 9:31 PM in response to JohnnyChin95

    Well, here are the specs for your machine:

     

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-2.3- 15-mid-2012-unibody-usb3-specs.html

     

    As I said, I do not know anything about the RAM you are considering; I can tell you that Macs are extremely sensitive to the right and high quality RAM; personally, I would not buy any RAM other than at OWC (macsales.com) or Crucial. There is a place mentioned on above site in southeast Asia (simplymac.sg) you might want to check. I would only buy from a vendor that sells Mac memory, not PC memory - the specs may be the same, but there might be minor differences in the manufacture which will make a difference.

     

    Now, you also asked about video editing - for that, you need both a fast processor and a fast hard drive read/write speed. Your hard drive is 5400 rpm, which is about 30% slower than the hard drive in a 27" iMac (7200 rpm) which is still considered slow compared to an SSD. So, even if you get more RAM, you will still have a slower photo/video rendering/editing speed because your hard drive can only write at a slower speed. All in all, I'd probably stay with 8 GB at this point. Make sure that you don't have too many apps open when you are working with photos or video.

  • by JohnnyChin95,

    JohnnyChin95 JohnnyChin95 Apr 15, 2015 9:37 PM in response to babowa
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    Apr 15, 2015 9:37 PM in response to babowa

    Ya, I in a super super tight budget, I now even have to decide to buy a Zoom H1 mic to improve my video audio or to pick a ram just to smooth workflow....

    ya, I think if I pick ram, I with stick with 8gb(2*4gb) to save money to buy a stronger mac in future, since it is a waste to buy more ram when your computer can't handle stronger demand!

    thanks my friend!

    follow me on twitter if you like!

    @TheJohnnyChin

  • by vinegarman,

    vinegarman vinegarman Aug 17, 2015 6:43 AM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Aug 17, 2015 6:43 AM in response to JohnnyChin95

    I thought JohnnyChin95 asked for a comparison of two operating systems, os x yosemites 10.10.3 vs os x mavericks 10.9.5.   "I still on mavericks 10.9.5 and I happy with it, few day ago apple released 10.10.3 with photo, and I think I would like to give it a try, but first I need some real user's opinion, does it faster or slower compare to mavericks? and in yosemites dark mode, does it faster or still slower than mavericks?"

     

    While the information about ram etc. is useful, it seems a bit off a topic. Does anyone have some objective information about os x yosemites 10.10.3 vs os x mavericks 10.9.5? When 10.10 came out it there was lots of buzz about it's lack of stability and crashing. There were many application that would not work well or at all with 10.10. Has this improved to the point that it is comparable or better than 10.9, which also had it's share of the same issues?

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Aug 17, 2015 8:07 AM in response to vinegarman
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    Aug 17, 2015 8:07 AM in response to vinegarman

    You decide to resurrect a 4 month old (dormant) thread to opine that the discussion about RAM is off topic? Really. Among other things, the OP asked:

     

    I using a macbook pro 15 inch mid 2012 i7 2.3-3.3ghz quad core ,512mb 650m gpu, 4gb ram, does this enough to have a smooth yosemites experience?I use my mac for design and video editing stuff,

     

    I answered that part of the question.

     

    You state that:

     

    There were many application that would not work well or at all with 10.10.

     

    Well, that is hardly an OS fault. Third party vendors need to update their apps to work with a new OS. So, if you want a comparison, I will not install two OS versions and test them for you as that would make no sense - I'd suggest you take Kappy's previous advice: install the new OS and compare. No one else can do that for you as there are way too many variables in what users have installed.

  • by vinegarman,

    vinegarman vinegarman Aug 17, 2015 8:50 AM in response to babowa
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    Aug 17, 2015 8:50 AM in response to babowa

    I am looking for peoples experience/advice with upgrading. I understood that the "OP" was looking for that as well.

     

    I agree that the most important experience is the one I have. However, in the scientific world we do a search of the literature before embarking on a new line of inquiry to see what others have done. That's what I am doing. In the science world experiences that are four months old experiments, experiences and results are still considered useful, so I didn't realize it was different here. Sorry about that.10.10 

     

    That said, does anyone know how much more stable10.10.6 is than previous versions?

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Aug 17, 2015 9:20 AM in response to vinegarman
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    Aug 17, 2015 9:20 AM in response to vinegarman

    One option is to create a new partition (~30- 50 GB), install the new OS, and ‘test drive’ it. If you like/don’t like it it, you can then remove the partition. Do a backup before you do anything. By doing this, if you don’t like it you won’t have to go though the revert process.

     

     

    Check to make sure your applications are compatible.


    Application Compatibility

     

     

     

    Applications Compatibility (2)

     

    Open Disk Utility, select your hard drive (step 1), then the Partition tab (step 2), and select the partition. Using the /// at the bottom move it up (step 3) until the size box decrease by about 50 GB. Select the newly created space and hit the + button (step 4). Name it something and select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as the format (step 5). Then hit the Apply button(step 6). Download the installer from the App Store and when it starts, point it at the new partition. You might want to make a copy of the installer outside the Applications folder to avoid having to re-download it in the future. Once installed, go to System Preferences/Startup Disk, select the new partition and reboot. Test away.

  • by Richard Harris2,

    Richard Harris2 Richard Harris2 Aug 21, 2015 4:28 AM in response to JohnnyChin95
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    Aug 21, 2015 4:28 AM in response to JohnnyChin95

    Based on extensive - and largely negative - experience of Yosemite, I'd strongly recommend either going down the second disk partition route or waiting a few weeks until 10.11 ships and see if that addresses some more of the outstanding issues with Yosemite. The word is that 10.11 is more of a consolidation/maintenance release and seldom can one have been more needed. I would have 'downgraded' to 10.9 ages ago, were it not for the logistics of doing so for my fairly complex network.

     

    As for Photos, I'm not impressed: for serious use, I migrated to Lightroom a couple of years ago when Apple stopped supporting the increasingly unreliable Aperture. Photos itself is crude, has a poor UX and UI, limited and often obscure functionality and eats bandwidth if you use any of it's selling features.

  • by vinegarman,

    vinegarman vinegarman Aug 21, 2015 8:20 AM in response to Richard Harris2
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    Aug 21, 2015 8:20 AM in response to Richard Harris2

    Is it possible to install a "boot" system on a flash drive and start up from it. Some software, like Quickbooks, have taken to coming out with their own updates, which they charge full price for, instead of updating the older versions. The result is that the "free" OS update can be quite expensive. It also means that whole volumes of data that we have painstakingly created becomes useless if we update the operating system.

     

    If it were possible to just install a boot system on a flash drive. I do that now with a cloned HD but since all I need is the OS it seems a 32bg flash drive should be possible. It would mean we could keep a legacy OS instead of a legacy computer. If this is possible, can someone please explain how to do it?