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Q: For the millions trying to use iMovie HD with Yosemite

A good discussion got started in iDVD about using iMovie HD (a.k.a. iMovie 06) with Yosemite.

 

I am attempting to relocate some of that information into the iMovie forum.

 

Find iMovie HD.app, control click on it and View Package Contents. Open Contents/MacOS/iMovie HD. That seems to bypass the check.


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From:  hughmass:   ( says it works ! )

 

I can confirm that if one right clicks all the way through, and doesn't close the terminal window, iMovie HD works as usual. I put a mp4 into it, put transitions and music, and exported.   Nice discovery as there are a lot of folks who still would rather use this application from 2006. You know, so long ago.

Hugh

 

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From Old Toad:

 

I tried that fix and it will open but won't work further than that. That method also opens the Terminal app which lists all of the bypasses and commands  iMovie is skipping.  If you close the Terminal window iMovie closes. The project file it creates is not a package as it normally is but just a folder.   It freezes up when you try to edit an audio clip.  Then when closed it won't open the project again.

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I suspect that there is some, “minor item” that is causing the iMovie HD problem with Yosemite.   Hopefully, some programming "super genius" will find a way to  lead the rest of us out of darkness.

Posted on Oct 18, 2014 1:18 PM

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  • by WilliamMills,

    WilliamMills WilliamMills Oct 20, 2014 9:39 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Oct 20, 2014 9:39 AM in response to Ziatron

    THANK YOU SO MUCH! You are my hero. I have been using IMOVIEHD for years and years and have thousands of hours of video in that format. I about fell out of my chair when I upgraded and it wouldn't work anymore. I was sweating bullets all weekend. Thank you so much! William

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Oct 20, 2014 7:59 PM in response to WilliamMills
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    Oct 20, 2014 7:59 PM in response to WilliamMills

    I about fell out of my chair when I upgraded and it wouldn't work anymore.

     

    Glad to hear things are working for you.

     

    Please report back how your iMovie HD work progresses using Yosemite.  Are you leaving Terminal open as suggested by others?

  • by WilliamMills,Helpful

    WilliamMills WilliamMills Oct 21, 2014 8:27 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:27 AM in response to Ziatron

    Yes, I'm leaving terminal open, so far so good. I don't understand why Apple is trying to keep their customers from using the product.  I have lots of older software I use because it works and I know how to use it.  It seems to me there is no harm in letting users on the newest platform from using the product they sold and encouraged people like me to use for years and years.  I can use the new iMovie app but it's just not natural to me, not to mention the thousands of hours I've spent digitizing home movies and saving them in Apple's iMovie HD format.

     

    I'm HOPING for a better long-term solution from Apple or a third party provider. There must be millions of iMovie HD files used around the world. I can't imagine how long it would take me to convert everything to a new format.

     

    Thank you again.

     

    William

     

    HappyiMovie HD user for many years

  • by Karsten Schlüter,Helpful

    Karsten Schlüter Karsten Schlüter Oct 21, 2014 8:49 AM in response to WilliamMills
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:49 AM in response to WilliamMills

    WilliamMills wrote:

    ...  don't understand why Apple is trying to keep their customers from using the product.…

    'cause it is based upon an OS-architecture, which isn't supported for years.

    It was four years ago, Apple announced, Quicktime will get obsolete. Now with Yosemite, the new kid in town is AVFoundation.

    bye-bye Quicktime.-

     

    So,you have two simple options:

    • keep your old system, keep your old OS and old apps - they will be fine for years!

    • or, change your OS and change the apps ... that simple.

     

    Nobody forces you, to install Yosemite nor to buy a new Mac.......

     

    <silly automotive metaphor ahead>

    You can not buy an hybrid-car and expect it will run with your old tank full of Diesel....

     

    WilliamMills wrote:

    ...  There must be millions of iMovie HD files used around the world. ..

    sort for sounding harsh, but:

    pretty nonsense to keep PROJECT-files, and pretty nonsense to use iM as a 'player'.

    my antique projects from 2002 play fine on latest hardware/OS, in QuicktimeX, in iTunes, on an AppleTV, YouTube, an iPhone, whatever.. ... as .mov. Or, quickly rewrapped .mp4.

     

  • by WilliamMills,

    WilliamMills WilliamMills Oct 21, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:17 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

    I appreciate your comments and insights and glad that we all are a part of this discussion. I switched to Mac in the pre-Intel days and am glad I did. It's the best computing environment for me. iMovie HD project files gave me the security of keeping home movies in a digital format and it's a pretty good editor for simple projects.

     

    I have to respectfully disagree with what I understand of the basis of your post. I may be mistaken but I believe using new Mac apps such as Pages, Numbers, Preview, etc. I can easily open and edit dozens, if not hundreds of file formats, some that are decades old and not even from Apple (.doc, .xls, .pdf, .jpg, .mp3, etc.). Here we have an Apple format for an Apple software product that was created and marketed to users that has been on the market for only eight years.  

     

    If Apple goes out of it's way to make sure their new products are backward compatible with Microsoft, Adobe and other PC providers would you not agree that the company should offer (even at an additional cost) a way for loyal Mac users (like myself) to open and edit files created on a Mac, sold by Apple, for Apple Mac users? 

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Oct 21, 2014 10:13 PM in response to Karsten Schlüter
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    Oct 21, 2014 10:13 PM in response to Karsten Schlüter

    Karsten,   One of the things I really like about you is that even when others disagree with you about “best methods” you always have sympathetic answers and great explanations.  Your technical expertise, and good humor is appreciated by me.

     

    Quicktime will get obsolete. Now with Yosemite, the new kid in town is AVFoundation

     

    I'm all for these improvements.  I would be delighted, ecstatic, overjoyed, to change to a new movie editor if it was half as good as iMovie HD. As you know, the new iMovie can't even set chapters!      I use chapters with Podcasts and DVDs.   I also have Final Cut Pro X.   It can set chapters but it's got way more horsepower than I need. 

     

    When I first started using iMovie 12 years ago I never read the manual.  Didn't need to.  Starting with iMovie 08, I spent hours reading manuals and watching YouTube videos trying to figure out simple tasks.  Sometimes I think I have a mental block because I started my video editing with real film using a razor blade and tape!

     

    Nobody forces you, to install Yosemite nor to buy a new Mac

     

    Eventually, you are forced to upgrade.   Let me give you an example.  For a number of years I was using a very high-end analog to digital converter from Grass Valley.  This device came with a terrific piece of software that would “clean up” old footage. I could do lightning and darkening, adjust colors, and filter out “Hiss”.   Well, that software was written for the old IBM processors, the company never updated it. So I was stuck using Snow Leopard (last OS to contain Rosetta) for a long time.

     

    As time went on, I would purchase new software that would NOT work with Snow Leopard, so I was forced to switch to Mavericks.

     

    However, you are correct in one regard; if you have a computer that is running the software and hardware that you like and you can dedicate that computer to that one task, yes, you can continue on, more or less indefinitely until your hardware breaks.  I know people who are doing exactly that so they can keep using iMovie HD.

     

    pretty nonsense to keep PROJECT-files

     

    I don't keep my project files either.   I do my editing with iMovie HD, then I use iDVD to create a DVD image file (about 4 GB). That is the only item I keep.

     

    My mind boggles at the multitude of video file formats available.  But I know this, 20 years from now I will still be able to play a DVD or at least view the DVD image file.

  • by Klaus1,

    Klaus1 Klaus1 Oct 22, 2014 1:15 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter
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    Oct 22, 2014 1:15 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

    Not that anyone asked, but I agree with Ziatron!

  • by Klaas.,

    Klaas. Klaas. Feb 23, 2015 3:20 AM in response to Klaus1
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    Feb 23, 2015 3:20 AM in response to Klaus1

    Hi,

    Nobody seems to address the problem I have :

    -  upgraded to Yosemite

    - and my iMovieHD video doesn't open.

     

    I am STUCK! Telling me to use other software does not help.  I cannot open the original.

     

    aybe I should regress my Operating System but don't know how  (yet).  Can I do that?

     

    greetings,  Klaas

  • by GeeD,

    GeeD GeeD Feb 23, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Klaas.
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    Feb 23, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Klaas.

    I know this doesn't help now but its always a good idea to make a bootable clone of your boot drive on an external HD (Using Superduper or CC Cloner) before making a major OS upgrade on an existing Mac so as to keep the option of going back if the new version breaks something.  (Although i'm using Yosemite most of the time I can still boot my old Mac Mini in Mavericks or Snow Leopard).   It's also handy to keep a copy of the various OS Installer applications since as far as I am aware it is only possible to (re) download from the App Store the installer for the latest version of the operating system that is compatible with the Mac you are connecting from.  

     

    The problem is greater with a new Mac where older OS versions generally won't work.  However, from Lion onwards it is reported as possible to run as a virtual machine with Parallels or VMware Fusion.   (Its a pity Snow Leopard is not included though I understand it is possible to buy and run the server version as a virtual machine.)

     

    Geoff.

  • by Douglas S,

    Douglas S Douglas S Apr 24, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Apr 24, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Ziatron

    So, if I have Yosemite and want to transfer my iMovie HD files into a format that will work in the "new" iMovie, what do I do?

  • by GeeD,

    GeeD GeeD Apr 24, 2015 1:52 PM in response to Douglas S
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    Apr 24, 2015 1:52 PM in response to Douglas S

    According to this: Update projects and events from previous versions of iMovie in iMovie (2014) - Apple Support

    you can only update to iMovie 10 from iMovie 7, 8 or 9.   But iMovie HD was iMovie 6 I believe.

    Assuming it was possible to update iMovie 6 to version 7, 8 or 9 (a quick search didn't find any information on this), you would have to update in 2 steps.

     

    Geoff.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Apr 24, 2015 9:00 PM in response to Klaas.
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    Apr 24, 2015 9:00 PM in response to Klaas.

    Some people keep a separate hard drive or partition with Mavericks on it to avoid the below procedure. However, once you get the below set up, it's no big deal.

     

    A while back, someone posted a "patch" to iMovie HD 06 that corrected the launching issue. For some reason, Apple removed the post.

     

    Yosemite has a bug that incorrectly identifies iMovie 6 (a.k.a. iMovie HD) as not compatible.  iMovie HD works fine with Yosemite.

    Below is a workaround that many use until this bug is fixed.

     

    >  Find iMovie HD in your applications folder.

    >  Right click on it, and select “Show Package Contents”.

    >  You will then find a folder named "Contents”.  Open it.  Then open the folder named "MacOS”.

    >  There you will find "iMovie HD".  Double-click on this, and iMovie HD will launch.

    >  Then create an alias. iMovie HD starts directly from the alias.

     

    Please report the bug to Apple, the more reports, the sooner it will get fixed.

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • by jed leland,

    jed leland jed leland Aug 14, 2015 2:27 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Aug 14, 2015 2:27 PM in response to Ziatron

    I followed your instructions, but instead of opening, I got this message when I double clicked iMovie HD:

     

    Last login: Thu Aug 13 17:10:01 on console

    dalesophieasPro:~ dalesophiea$ /Applications/iMovie\ HD.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie\ HD ; exit;

    -bash: /Applications/iMovie HD.app/Contents/MacOS/iMovie HD: Bad CPU type in executable

    logout

     

    [Process completed]


    If I right click on iMovie HD, I can open with Terminal 2.5.3 or 2.5.1.

    Suggestions?

  • by Mabelene,

    Mabelene Mabelene Sep 17, 2015 3:29 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Sep 17, 2015 3:29 AM in response to Ziatron

    Thank you so much.I just updated my Mac Book Pro today. I'm so pleased I found a way to use this old iMovie app.software  in Yosemite. Took a bit of fiddling but it works. Its the simplest, best ever iMovie editing app and I use it as a sketch pad for concepts before translating to more sophisticated  software. Apple should bring it back mainstream.