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Q: ALERT! Rebuilding Photos Library Restarts iCloud Upload

Just discovered that rebuilding my Photos Library caused Photos to re-upload my entire 19,000 picture library! It only took 4 weeks to upload it the first time. Looks like another 4 week wait.

 

I discovered some inconsistencies between my iPhoto Library and the new Photos Library. It appears if some prior edits in iPhoto didn't correctly move over so I lost some Originals. During the troubleshooting I noticed some crops of group photos had Faces Names of people in the crop that were no longer there. I thought a rebuild of the library might fix it rather than look at each photo to verify the Faces Names were correct.

Posted on May 6, 2015 3:11 PM

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Q: ALERT! Rebuilding Photos Library Restarts iCloud Upload

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 6, 2015 3:47 PM in response to soltmann
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    May 6, 2015 3:47 PM in response to soltmann

    Thanks for the warning!  Do you use "Optimise Mac Storage" or "Download Originals for this Mac?"

  • by soltmann,

    soltmann soltmann May 7, 2015 9:10 AM in response to léonie
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    May 7, 2015 9:10 AM in response to léonie

    I have plenty of Storage so I keep the originals on my Mac.

  • by Marko Buuri,

    Marko Buuri Marko Buuri May 7, 2015 10:11 AM in response to soltmann
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    May 7, 2015 10:11 AM in response to soltmann

    I am learning this the hard way just now. Tried to rebuild the library after Photos stopped syncing with iCloud and got the notorious "Closing the library" issue.

     

    After rebuild all my 17'000 photos are uploading again. Only this time the application chooses not to upload at rate of 10 Mbps like before, but with a connection capped to whopping 500 kbps. So instead of several days I am looking at weeks to sync everything again, despite using the same internet connection as before.

     

    Saying I am a bit dissappointed at this software right now is somewhat of an understatement.

  • by soltmann,

    soltmann soltmann May 7, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Marko Buuri
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    May 7, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Marko Buuri

    John and Dave at Mac geek gab have something to say about bandwidth and Photos as it relates to your Internet connection being slowed for other open applications.

     

    I didn't understand how upload bandwidth used by Photos could affect my download speed until I listened to this.  It has to do with packets. Since download and upload's are done in packets, if the upload pipe is full sending Pics to iCloud there is less room for other programs, such as Safari, Netflix to send info in packets back to the web to indicate the data (packets) were good. It's worth a listen as there are some solutions that will throttle Photos upload so that it doesn't slow your Mac to a crawl. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/podcast/macgeekgab-550

  • by thomasfromsomis,

    thomasfromsomis thomasfromsomis May 7, 2015 6:07 PM in response to soltmann
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    May 7, 2015 6:07 PM in response to soltmann

    There is no way to sign out of iCloud without having to re-upload everything????

    I have the same problem! re-uploading 120gb on dsl Unacceptable!

    I cannot buy faster internet at my house! believe me I have tried they all want 10 a gb for sat or cell witch would come to $2,500.00 per month. for 250gb

    I had to sign out of iCloud and when I signed back in 1 min later it wants to re-upload! I'm screwed I give UP it killed my internet for a week and i had to go sit at Starbucks 60mbs up-down Google-Starbucks wifi for 6 hours! not doing it again.

    There is no upload time calculator!

    There is no pause for 2 hours option, so it restarts after i fall asleep watching Netflix !

    There is no suggestion to remove videos

    There is no explanation that it will convert each video as it gets to it and will NOT upload until that conversion is done! and it won't convert till upload is done!

    There is no way to pre-convert video's so you could then go some where with fast upload!

    There is no way to sign out of iCloud without having to re-upload everything

    There is no explanation that it uploads the newest pictures and videos first and works backwards in time to oldest pic.

    Its as if they don't even know what RSYNC is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why the jrgxf8onrg87cf would it re upload the exact same 120 gb????????

    Unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!! rqedy2tyjy3fjuv


     

  • by Randy Maynard1,

    Randy Maynard1 Randy Maynard1 May 29, 2016 7:36 PM in response to thomasfromsomis
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    May 29, 2016 7:36 PM in response to thomasfromsomis

    Preach it. I'm pretty ticked too... I am uploading 22,000 plus videos and photos... for the third time! Twice back when I first got the cloud, and now again because I rebuilt my library while troubleshooting a "where are my photos?" issue. Ugh. I forgot it would do this... another week of screwing my whole family.

  • by Rysz,

    Rysz Rysz May 29, 2016 7:54 PM in response to Randy Maynard1
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    May 29, 2016 7:54 PM in response to Randy Maynard1

    Pause the upload while the computer and/or Wi-Fi is in use, then resume at the end of the day and let it work all night.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 29, 2016 9:32 PM in response to Randy Maynard1
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    May 29, 2016 9:32 PM in response to Randy Maynard1

    Apple does not warn about the new upload on the Photos Help page:  https://help.apple.com/photos/mac/1.0/?lang=en#/pht6be18f93

     

    But in another ducument there is a clear warning:

    Fix missing or incorrect thumbnails in Photos - Apple Support

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205069

     

    Note: If you use iCloud Photo Library with Photos, this action will cause Photos to re-upload all your pictures.

    The new upload after repairing the library will be faster than the initial upload.

  • by paulmeyers42,

    paulmeyers42 paulmeyers42 Aug 14, 2016 12:04 PM in response to léonie
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    Aug 14, 2016 12:04 PM in response to léonie

    I had a problem with my iCloud Drive syncing, so I logged out, deleted my iCloud caches, and re-logged in. I had no idea this would rebuild my iCloud Photo Library as well, or like this. It even asked me to upgrade my iCloud storage because it didn't think I was going to have enough space.

     

    However, what it actually did is strange. I was afraid of duplicates, but there weren't any. It also doesn't seem to actually upload files even though it says that's what it's doing. Looking at the networking stats in Activity Monitor, there's nowhere near as much data being uploaded as there should be. It's definitely reading the photos from disk, and doing some kind of video encoding on them (CPU spikes), but there's just not enough network activity. I think it's doing a check before it sends anything, and the CPU and disk reads are slowing down the process.