Panagiotis Tsamoudakis

Q: Cold restarts after 10.10.3 update.

Cold restarts after 10.10.3 update.

 

Hi,

 

Ever since the 10.10.3 update I am experiencing two problems on my mac mini. I am not entirely sure that they are related to the update but since I haven’t changed anything (hardware or software) on my mac, I can only assume that the update probably triggered the issues.

 

The first problem is that every now and then I get a bunch of pixels flickering on some random position of my screen. Another user reported the exact same error and posted a video here: https://www.facebook.com/georgetasioulis/videos/10203713632115564/ Once I drag a window over these pixels, the problem is gone.

 

The second and more major problem is that I get random cold restarts. It could be 5 minutes since I booted my mac or even a day after. There is no specific app that I’m running when the mac restarts. In other words I can’t seem to find a pattern on when this happens.

 

After reading many forum posts I ended up doing a clean installation of Yosemite and started installing everything from scratch. After a while the same thing happened. I noticed that some “power users” can make sense of the kernel panic logs so here is my latest one:

 

Anonymous UUID:       DFD8BE96-203B-C244-A890-73E40E563534

 

Sat Apr 18 09:26:15 2015

 

*** Panic Report ***

panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8030417cc2): Kernel trap at 0xffffff803053ea88, type 13=general protection, registers:

CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000004b77e1e, CR3: 0x0000000023f5e036, CR4: 0x00000000001626e0

RAX: 0xffffff805c11e020, RBX: 0xffffff804fd3ac00, RCX: 0xff0e1b2aff0e1a2a, RDX: 0xffffff804fd3ac50

RSP: 0xffffff822e4f3d30, RBP: 0xffffff822e4f3dd0, RSI: 0x0000000000000025, RDI: 0xffffff804fd3ac18

R8:  0x0000000000000001, R9:  0x0000000000000000, R10: 0x0000000000002000, R11: 0x0000000000000012

R12: 0xffffff805c11e000, R13: 0x0000000000000000, R14: 0xffffff804fd3ac18, R15: 0xffffff804fd3ac50

RFL: 0x0000000000010282, RIP: 0xffffff803053ea88, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010

Fault CR2: 0x0000000004b77e1e, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x2

 

mp = 0xffffff804fd3ac00, phys = 0x31183c00, prev (0x7: 0x30113000-0x30200000)

vp = 0xffffff804fd3ac00, phys = 0x709000, prev (0: 0xa0000-0xc0000)

0xffffff804fd39000: YwAAAGcAAABtAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAICA gAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAACAgB4fCQcgAACACAAAACETGg2GU6LSgoMZPwACAgACKggAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG1hcCBhdXRvX2hvbYjEe0+A////AAACAP8PAAAAAAA h/////z8AAAAAhOJQ4IHtUVi9mzYAjtNPAKLTT4D////QoSCysACmMLCE7VHAg+1RUJjTTwgAUAQAAAg AAAQAAAACAAABAAAsFAAAAGF1dG9mcwAAL25ldG1hcCAtaG9zwMwAAOAODu7g7t7uDgUODWWAACAgBLA 5gDsgAAH8/zeAgw8GdAMAAAAA

0xffffff804fd3a000: fwAAAIgAAACTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAgB4fCQcgAACACAAAACETGg2G06LTgoMqK0QBMwACKQQ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AADAwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAwMAeH4mHLQAKwAgAAAAhExYNqtIqH4qPGr9oAuoAAhoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAj/fE+A////AAACAP8PAAAAAAAh/////z8AAAAAM3p QwIPtUYDLmjYAmNNPAKzTT2AtpjBQAKYwcNjeT/CAW2Og195PUKLTT4D///9gotNPgP///wAQEAQAEBA AqCFET2RldmYvZGV2AAACAP8PAAAAJGWK/////6AjAAApJAAAAAAAIT8AAAAAc9dP3GSWHQCi00+A/// /4HuvMF6YAQCYl/5VAAAAAkgCpzCQ/6UwgBfdYyAPElwA4BFcMN7eTwDQgAQAAN2AEAAAAAAQAAAAABA AqBR7A/UV4QL1G+ACs/iaAAIAAAERAAAAaGZzAMwAAAwODu7u4O7uDgAAMAABzswA4ODg4Oju4ODuLu7 eBwAAACAACAIBbA44DghQE/8DDiBs2TkBc4AAICAEICibAw44DgjwP4CDYQovAAAA

0xffffff804fd3b000: WQAAAF0AAABjAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAgIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwgIAaHwoHLQAGQAoxAAAAABIDABAAAIAAFn0AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHh8JByAAAIAAAAAAAAAiAS9kZXYvZGlzazBzMggY30+A////AAAAAgABAAAAAEA AAwAAANNuCwAAAAAhAN/eTwEAAABAc9dPQLbTTwAQAAAAAAIA/w8AAAAAACH/////wGyqTwIAAAAAAAA AAOUO7u4DzgMADOwAAIIQAIiO/T+AC/A/gEMJJgCBACAgBAA4

Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff820ef35e10 : 0xffffff803032bda1

0xffffff820ef35e90 : 0xffffff8030417cc2

0xffffff820ef36050 : 0xffffff8030434b73

0xffffff820ef36070 : 0xffffff803053ea88

0xffffff822e4f3dd0 : 0xffffff80307552f7

0xffffff822e4f3eb0 : 0xffffff803055879b

0xffffff822e4f3ed0 : 0xffffff8030542e24

0xffffff822e4f3f40 : 0xffffff803054d027

0xffffff822e4f3f50 : 0xffffff803084ba86

0xffffff822e4f3fb0 : 0xffffff8030435376

 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: sync

 

Mac OS version:

14D136

 

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: 4B3A11F4-77AA-3D27-A22D-81A1BC5B504D

Kernel slide:     0x0000000030000000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff8030200000

__HIB  text base: 0xffffff8030100000

System model name: Macmini6,2 (Mac-F65AE981FFA204ED)

 

System uptime in nanoseconds: 648750639627

last loaded kext at 243977764692: com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.10 (addr 0xffffff7fb112b000, size 69632)

loaded kexts:

com.Logitech.Unifying.HID Driver 1.3.1

com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver 3.9.1

at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 4240

com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.10

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothUSBDFU 4.3.4f4

com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.3.4f4

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC 4.3.3b1

com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.3.4f4

com.apple.driver.AGPM 110.19.5

com.apple.driver.X86PlatformShim 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.2.0d4

com.apple.driver.AppleOSXWatchdog 1

com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 124

com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 272.18

com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.6.1

com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.2.11

com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 272.18

com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.1

com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleHWAccess 1

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD4000Graphics 10.0.6

com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleHV 1

com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.10.22

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSlowAdaptiveClocking 4.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleFIVRDriver 4.1.0

com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.7.3

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelFramebufferCapri 10.0.6

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 272.18

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltIP 2.0.2

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays 372.1

com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 327.5

com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 3.0.1

com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1

com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1

com.apple.BootCache 36

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 656.4.1

com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404

com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.7.1

com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 800.20.24

com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIPassThrough 1.0.3

com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC 1.6.5

com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 10.1.3

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 705.4.2

com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4360 930.37.3

com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 5.5.2

com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 3.1.2

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 705.4.14

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBXHCI 710.4.11

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 3.1

com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0

com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.1

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 3.1

com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 218.0.0

com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 161

com.apple.security.quarantine 3

com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 8

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 218.0.0

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.3.4f4

com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0

com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 11

com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 272.18

com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.15

com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 97.4

com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.1.0

com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.4.1

com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.10.22

com.apple.driver.X86PlatformPlugin 1.0.0

com.apple.iokit.IOSlowAdaptiveClockingFamily 1.0.0

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 705.4.0

com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.6

com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 272.18

com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 272.18

com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.9.1d7

com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2 156.14

com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.10.22

com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.4.1

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.13d1

com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.9

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.12d1

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSink 4.0.2

com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.7.5

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriverPM 710.4.7

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBAudio 295.23

com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 203.3

com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.2.0

com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.3.4f4

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.3.4f4

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 705.4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter 4.0.6

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter 4.0.6

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily 4.0.6

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIUpAdapter 2.0.2

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter 2.0.2

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 705.4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 705.4.9

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI 3.1.7

com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily 4.2.2

com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.3b3

com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 730.60

com.apple.driver.mDNSOffloadUserClient 1.0.1b8

com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.2

com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.5.6

com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.7.5

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 720.4.4

com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.0

com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.0

com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 2.0.0

com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1

com.apple.security.sandbox 300.0

com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1

com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 2

com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity 1.0.5

com.apple.driver.AppleCredentialManager 1.0

com.apple.driver.DiskImages 396

com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 2.0

com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily 31

com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore 28.30

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 3.1

com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.9

com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4

com.apple.kec.Libm 1

com.apple.kec.pthread 1

com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0

 

I would really appreciate if someone could point me to the right direction in order to figure out what to do next. My spec is a mac mini (late 2012) 2.3GHz i7 with 16GB RAM from Crucial and a Corsair SSD Force 3 240GB. It is connected to an Apple Thunderbolt display with only one peripheral: a Logitech Anywhere MX mouse.

 

One last thing… the above kernel crash log is kinda rare. Most of them have this:

 

      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

         com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[70E2B65E-A91A-3522-A1A0-79FD63EABB4C]@0xfffff f7f82ecb000->0xffffff7f82ed3fff

         com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[52E715FC-521D-3869-B2EA-5228FA4BEA34]@0xffffff 7f82524000->0xffffff7f82552fff

         com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform(3.1)[97299A71-6EDD-3AD9-AE1D-2F7B61E8AA72]@0 xffffff7f8458b000->0xffffff7f845e9fff

            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[70E2B65E-A91A-3522-A1A0-79FD63EABB4C]@0xfffff f7f82ecb000

            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[52E715FC-521D-3869-B2EA-5228FA4BEA34]@0xffffff 7f82524000

 

Not sure if this helps but “com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily” is mentioned most of the times.

Mac mini, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), Late 2012, 2.3 GHz i7

Posted on Apr 18, 2015 12:00 AM

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  • by MrCamaleo,

    MrCamaleo MrCamaleo May 15, 2015 3:00 AM in response to BG2k
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    May 15, 2015 3:00 AM in response to BG2k

    last weekend, May 9~10, I did a completely fresh installation and since then I only had the flickering once for few minutes and no restarts at all.

     

    As a weekend is approaching and it took the entire last weekend for me to complete the maintenance, I tough to share the procedure in case someone likes to do it on their systems.

     

    This is what I did:

     

    • formatted an external disk
    • installed Mavericks on the external disk
    • set the external disk as the boot disk and rebooted
    • upgraded to 10.10.3 as there is no way to upgrade to 10.10.2 – initially I was thinking to switch back to Mavericks, then I realised that I need Xcode latest version for a project I'm developing, so I need Yosemite
    • copied all my documents and development files – using Finder
    • installed only the software/apps I need to work
    • copied all the preferences/settings of the software/apps – using Finder and the Terminal
    • checked that I can use all my software
    • duplicated my original boot disk on another external disk – using Carbon Copy Cloner, http://bombich.com/
    • formatted my original boot disk
    • duplicated the external disk to the original boot disk – using Carbon Copy Cloner
    • set the original boot disk as the boot disk again and rebooted
    • ran the Apple Diagnostics, no problems reported

     

    Fine tuned what was still missing, like Apache configuration, installed MySQL after which I had the flickering for few minutes, then disabled MySQL.

     

    Started to work again full time since Monday 11 – using a Raspberry Pi as MySQL sever! – and never had flickering nor restarts at all since then.

     

    Also the system seem much faster and reactive – not sure if it became slow because of disk fragmentation even because I read SSD does not need fragmentation, anyways it looks like that after all that maintenance work I'm able to work again.

     

    So I am not totally sure if the issue is 10.10.3 or a combination of 10.10.3 and other thinks like, for example: a fragmented disk, some other conflicting software, devices connected, etc.

     

    Will post again if any of the issues arises again, hopefully not – or if I find out more clues, for example getting the issues back after installing some software/app.

     

    Good luck everybody!

  • by n748,

    n748 n748 May 15, 2015 4:06 AM in response to MrCamaleo
    Level 1 (29 points)
    May 15, 2015 4:06 AM in response to MrCamaleo

    The problem is that this issue occurs so **** erratically. I also had a week before where everything seemed fine. Then BOOM! a couple of kernel panics. Now it has been again around 10 days without any issues. However, I also tried something new and it seems to be working.

     

    I suggest everybody try this:

    Go to System Preferences > Energy Saver > Disable Automatic graphics switching

    In the past this has been a temporary cure for similar issues with dual GPU Macbook Pros. I am not sure if this also works for the Mac mini people out there.

     

    And yes, I have the feeling mostly tinkers are affected from this bug.

  • by n748,

    n748 n748 May 15, 2015 4:11 AM in response to Larsen2k4
    Level 1 (29 points)
    May 15, 2015 4:11 AM in response to Larsen2k4

    Larsen2k4 wrote:

     

    But since I'm into the beta program now, I'll send apple a report and link this thread.

    Good idea - maybe that way they are more likely to listen. I will try and register as well, when I find some time.

  • by MrCamaleo,

    MrCamaleo MrCamaleo May 15, 2015 4:20 AM in response to n748
    Level 1 (10 points)
    May 15, 2015 4:20 AM in response to n748

    n748 wrote:

     

    I suggest everybody try this:

    Go to System Preferences > Energy Saver > Disable Automatic graphics switching

    In the past this has been a temporary cure for similar issues with dual GPU Macbook Pros. I am not sure if this also works for the Mac mini people out there.

     

    No, the option is not present on the Minis

  • by BG2k,

    BG2k BG2k May 15, 2015 4:33 AM in response to MrCamaleo
    Level 1 (0 points)
    May 15, 2015 4:33 AM in response to MrCamaleo

    Thanks, MrCamaleo, for such detailed information!

    I did a full install on a external disk, like yours, but without copying any user data.. few moments later I could see the flickering and the kernel panics.

     

    Do you still have sporadic flickering? Did you connect external monitor to it? No more kernel panics?

    Do you use Little Snitch, and if yes, did you reinstalled it?

     

    Best regards.

  • by SnakeMac,

    SnakeMac SnakeMac May 15, 2015 5:01 AM in response to MrCamaleo
    Level 1 (0 points)
    May 15, 2015 5:01 AM in response to MrCamaleo

    MrCamaleo wrote:

     

    n748 wrote:

     

    I suggest everybody try this:

    Go to System Preferences > Energy Saver > Disable Automatic graphics switching

     

    No, the option is not present on the Minis

    Same with the MBA.

     

    But I agree: Those sudden restarts happen without a warning. Sometimes there are logs or at least the grey screen, sometimes it is just a restart with no indication in the logs. Sometimes there are days without any (about a week in Mid April). And the problem probably is graphics related.

     

    I use Little Snitch but not Flash. I did a clean install with 10.10.3 but I still had those crashes daily.

     

    What some of you could try: Turn off the external monitor. Plug out the hdmi connector. Do a restart and then, plug it in. After that, turn the monitor on and wait. Does it change anything?

    I usually leave it plugged in and shut my MBA down every night. When I came back from travelling I did not have a crash the entire day but my MBA was already running, when I connected the external monitor.

     

    Since Tuesday I haven't had a single crash while using a new hdmi adapter...my MBA shows a temperature of around 50ºC, while using a browser or writing mails...it heats up to 70ºC when watching videos on the external monitor. Otherwise fans are only spinning up while watching flash with chrome.

     

    And if you are on the beta program: You could try a safe start and see if it changes anything. I had some strange messages appearing in console. MBA seems cooler now and those messages disappeared. I'd actually be interested in your safe start experience. I get a whole lot of flickering while doing this...even when there is no external monitor connected.

  • by Old Archibald Yates,

    Old Archibald Yates Old Archibald Yates May 15, 2015 5:08 AM in response to BG2k
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    May 15, 2015 5:08 AM in response to BG2k

    Since I have disabled the network indicator of Little Snitch in the menu bar a few days ago no flickering bars have appeared whatsoever.

     

    No crashes since then so far.

     

    Little Snitch is still installed and it is still running. Just no progress bars for upload and download in the menu bar.

     

    As the crashes come from out of the blue as you all know I am still suspicious of the OS stability. At least now I can hope this helped. Re-Installing 10.3.3 did not. My monitor is connected via DVI so all of this is not a HDMI (only) issue.

     

    After having read a lot about Mac users reporting the crashes the suspicion seems to harden that they are video related:

    • The majority of crashes reported happen to machines with Intel HD 4000
    • The software involved is either video editing software and suchlike, or browsers displaying videos (both Safari and Chrome) in Flash or HTML5 format
    • Other software maybe involved in the crashes but definitely involved in the flickering bars is software with active/colour menu bar icons (there are crash reports from users not running Little Snitch at all, so it can not be the only factor involved)

     

    Beside from turning off the network indicator of Little Snitch I have disabled Flash in Safari. If no crashes happen I will switch it on again to rule it out. But not just yet—this is my working machine, mind you. (Hello Apple!)

  • by MrCamaleo,

    MrCamaleo MrCamaleo May 15, 2015 5:05 AM in response to BG2k
    Level 1 (10 points)
    May 15, 2015 5:05 AM in response to BG2k

    BG2k wrote:

     

    Thanks, MrCamaleo, for such detailed information!

    I did a full install on a external disk, like yours, but without copying any user data.. few moments later I could see the flickering and the kernel panics.

     

    Do you still have sporadic flickering? Did you connect external monitor to it? No more kernel panics?

    Do you use Little Snitch, and if yes, did you reinstalled it?

     

    Best regards.

     

    Hi BG2k,

     

    one single time flickering that never reappeared, no panics at all.

     

    I use the Mini with TWO Apple Thunderbird Displays.


    I do not use Little Snitch.

     

    Cheers

  • by Carl__R,

    Carl__R Carl__R May 15, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Old Archibald Yates
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    May 15, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Old Archibald Yates

    It seems that third party apps that place an animated icon in the top right menu bar may cause these problems. In my case it was MenuMeters (which is plugin to SystemUIServer). After removing it things seems to be back to normal here, no flickering, crashes or jerky trackpad for week. I believe Little Snitch also has such an icon?

  • by Larsen2k4,

    Larsen2k4 Larsen2k4 May 15, 2015 5:09 AM in response to Old Archibald Yates
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    May 15, 2015 5:09 AM in response to Old Archibald Yates

    I've always got LS running invisible - never helped against the flickering / crashes - also uninstalling LS had no effect.

     

    For me the flickering mostly occurs after waking from sleep and disappears after a screen refresh event (like activating Mission Control).

     

    It's nasty that those crashes sometimes take days to repeat - makes it really tough to check, if it's 3rd party or Apple's fault.

     

    Carl__R wrote:

     

    It seems that third party apps that place an animated icon in the
    top right menu bar may cause these problems. In my case it was
    MenuMeters (which is plugin to SystemUIServer). After removing it things
    seems to be back to normal here, no flickering, crashes or jerky
    trackpad for week. I believe Little Snitch also has such an icon?

     

    Now would be the question: What animated Menu Bar plugins do all the guys have (OneDrive, iStat Menus here)?

  • by Old Archibald Yates,

    Old Archibald Yates Old Archibald Yates May 15, 2015 5:09 AM in response to Carl__R
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    May 15, 2015 5:09 AM in response to Carl__R

    That is exactly what I suspect. Sorry if I wasn't clear about it. English is obviously not my first language.

  • by SnakeMac,

    SnakeMac SnakeMac May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to Larsen2k4
    Level 1 (0 points)
    May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to Larsen2k4

    Same here. LS running with icon in menu bar, so is iStat menus.

    But I haven't seen any flickering on my machine. It simply crashed - mostly while watching videos of any kind. HD 4000 as well. And since my logic board got replaced twice and the crashes happened with all three of them...it is probably drivers related.

     

    Finder crashed on me big time when I deactivated finder integration with dropbox. Had to restart my MBA, was unusable.

  • by MrCamaleo,

    MrCamaleo MrCamaleo May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to Carl__R
    Level 1 (10 points)
    May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to Carl__R

    Carl__R wrote:

     

    In my case it was MenuMeters (which is plugin to SystemUIServer). After removing it things seems to be back to normal here, no flickering, crashes or jerky trackpad for week. I believe Little Snitch also has such an icon?

     

    I'm using MenuMeters 1.8.1 and since the reinstallation no flickering.

     

    Other apps I use and that have an icon in the menu bar:

     

    • Macs Fan Control
    • Dropbox
    • Radium
    • Memory Monitor
    • Alfred 2
    • Carbon Copy Cloner
    • 1Password
    • MenuMate

     

    I also use other apps that can add their icon, like Evernote and Skitch, but the icon is there only when the app is open.

  • by Larsen2k4,

    Larsen2k4 Larsen2k4 May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to SnakeMac
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    May 15, 2015 5:14 AM in response to SnakeMac

    I've uninstalled iStat Menus now and will hope the best.

  • by Carl__R,

    Carl__R Carl__R May 15, 2015 5:35 AM in response to Larsen2k4
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    May 15, 2015 5:35 AM in response to Larsen2k4

    Well, I believe it's not only a case of icons. I suspect it relates to anything that interacts with SystemUIServer: http://guides.macrumors.com/SystemUIServer. It's just my theory though, I may be wrong.

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