Q: How do get data from '87 Apple 40 meg SCSI to new iMac?
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May 13, 2015 7:49 AMby Jeff,It's comparable to selling collectibles in general. One begins to wonder if holding onto something too long - in the hopes of it gaining more value due to scarcity - is a mistake. With most technology-based items, this appears to be the case. Ask any of us who has a box filled with old (and originally expensive) upgrade hardware for our older computers - Macs and PCs. When the niche group of potential buyers who have some connection to or sentimental familiarity with a given collectible have gotten to the point in life of downsizing and reducing the clutter in their closets, the market value of that item usually drops accordingly. Then it becomes a question of which collectibles will see a resurgence in value for whatever reason and should one hang onto it longer, in the hopes of selling it for a more reasonable price.
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May 13, 2015 9:41 AMby Limnos,Yes, but the Plus/SE have a certain design caché. I have a IIci in the basement as well (souped up with a 360 MB [IIRC] HD, 32 MB [!!!] RAM, 2 video cards). It is shaped like basically a very plain box with a slot in the front and sitting on a shelf it really looks like just a box sitting on a shelf.
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May 15, 2015 10:35 AMby wizman440,Now the old G3 is here, hooked up to the monitor but the keyboard and mouse are on backorder. I turn the unit on, no beeps just fan noise and no picture on the monitor. Does the mouse and keyboard have to be connected to boot or should I look for loose connections?
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May 26, 2015 2:49 PMby wizman440,After weeks of dealing with eBay and vendors, I finally have the Starmax hooked up with an ADB keyboard and mouse, and my two SCSI drives attached, an Apple 40SC and a Rodime 140. Starting the drives up first, I launch the mighty clone machine. It comes up with only the internal HD on the desktop. Using Utilities>Disk Setup, I scan for the SCSI drives. During this operation, I can hear the Rodime chatting it up with the computer, but the Disk Setup utility just spins and spins. Only when I turn a SCSI off, will it stop spinning and report, yes there is a SCSI at address #2 but it's <Not Supported> for the Rodime and <No Disk> for the Apple 40 SC. At this point it's a dead end for me.
Also, not much luck in getting online with it either. I have the ethernet port plugged into my router, but it's not seeing it after all of the Subnet and DNS info I put into it.
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May 27, 2015 7:19 AMby Jeff,For troubleshooting, I'd connect only one external drive at a time, to avoid any problems that conflicting addresses or termination issues might cause. Have these external drives been stored in a temperature-controlled environment? Even while not being used, it's possible that they've become damaged. Since you want to recover files, the last thing you want to do is to inadvertently alter/damage any data on them with the formatting utility. You can use "Drive Setup" (in the Utilities Folder) to run a "Test Disk" scan of each hard drive and attempt to identify any possible problem that they may have acquired over time.
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May 27, 2015 8:28 AMby wizman440,I scan for the SCSI drives. During this operation, I can hear the Rodime chatting it up with the computer, but the Disk Setup utility just spins and spins. Only when I turn a SCSI off, will it stop spinning and report, yes there is a SCSI at address #2 but it's <Not Supported> for the Rodime and <No Disk> for the Apple 40 SC.
I've tried it individually, changed ID numbers, the only way Drive Setup will recognize the drives is when I turn them off.
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Jun 15, 2015 3:01 PMby wizman440,I purchased a Quantum 40 meg drive and this is the third SCSI drive I have hooked up to the Starmax running Mac OS 8.5- and the third time I've been told in Test Disk <Not Supported> . That's beyond coincidence... 8.5 will recognize SCSI won't it? The address is set to 5 btw.. Any ideas would be welcome.
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Jun 15, 2015 8:14 PMby Jeff,Yes, Mac OS 8.5 recognizes SCSI devices. So, you've installed the drive in an external enclosure, you've set the enclosure's SCSI address to 5, and you've plugged in the external terminator on the back of the enclosure. Did you remove the "TE" jumper from the drive itself, assuming that it has one? Has the Quantum 40 MB drive already been formatted as a Mac OS volume, before you attempted to run "Test Disk" to scan it? Sometimes, older SCSI drives that were formatted with a third-party utility can't be updated with the Apple formatting utility.
