HT204655: Updating from iPhoto to Photos for OS X

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Q: Does anyone else HATE the new Photos "upgrade"?

Photos has made a huge MESS of my pictures & I literally want to scream.  It changed the dates on a lot of my pictures and now I can't even find the new ones after I upload them.  I don't have time to sit at my computer and work out Apples bugs.  ARRGHHHH!!!!!   Anyone have a good non-Apple program that they have switched to?  I am SO ready...

MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.53 GHz), iOS 8.3

Posted on May 19, 2015 12:01 PM

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  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 19, 2015 12:03 PM in response to dgfromcpk
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    May 19, 2015 12:03 PM in response to dgfromcpk

    You can continue using iPhoto with OS X 10.10.3. See the user tip, Get iPhoto 9.6.1 if you didn't update before OS X 10.10.3 by Barney-15E if the version you have will not work with it.

  • by tcarltonlt2,Helpful

    tcarltonlt2 tcarltonlt2 May 19, 2015 1:01 PM in response to dgfromcpk
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    May 19, 2015 1:01 PM in response to dgfromcpk

    yes!!!! I hate it lots.

  • by Foremost authority,Helpful

    Foremost authority Foremost authority May 26, 2015 9:04 PM in response to R C-R
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    May 26, 2015 9:04 PM in response to R C-R

    I am hopelessly confused about why the Library system is needed at all. Why not just put photos in a folder? I have Photoshop and use Photoshop Bridge, which I have enough trouble finding photos in. I have no use for the old photos library, let alone this separate level of confusion with terrible documentation. Apparently with Apple I am obliged to make duplicates of everything and then cannot remember where anything is because there is no usable system for locating them. The whole thing is so complicated I'd dump the whole thing, but Apple makes this absolutely impossible. The whole system  is a ghastly mess of bloatware and I'd even consider using Windows via Parallels, except I suspect Windows is at least as big a mess. Why do Apple computers have to be so **** complicated? I don't have time for this.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 26, 2015 9:15 PM in response to Foremost authority
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    May 26, 2015 9:15 PM in response to Foremost authority

    Wow - as the foremost authority on everything I would think you would understand databases and their power

     

    But in any case you statement that it is impossible not to use  Photos (or iPhotos or any other software for that matter) - total balderbash - nothing is forced on you and it is trivial to use any other software including the finder  alone for organizing you photos

     

    So if you are confused and want help then start a new thread with specific details on your  system and software and workflow and people here will  help - trash talk like you just posted services no purpose and givse no one any clues as to how to help your inability to understand how the software works (tens of million sod understand and use it daily )

     

    LN

  • by Glenn Leblanc,

    Glenn Leblanc Glenn Leblanc May 26, 2015 9:16 PM in response to Foremost authority
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    May 26, 2015 9:16 PM in response to Foremost authority

    If you don't want photos stored in the Library, use the Referenced Library with either iPhoto or Photos. In Photos preferences, general tab, uncheck Copy items to Photos Library.

    Exactly who is forcing you to use Photos or iPhotos? Use whatever photo program you want. You want to save your files in folders, then create folders and save your pictures there. If you don't want to learn how to use a program, then don't use it.

     

    If you are unhappy with Apple computers, google PCs for sale. They are available in just about every electronics store around.

  • by mandruff,

    mandruff mandruff May 27, 2015 12:13 PM in response to Foremost authority
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    May 27, 2015 12:13 PM in response to Foremost authority

    The Library is a container for all kinds of files, folders, database content, assets, thumbnails, previews and more.

     

    Just so you know.

     

    I hope that clears up your 'hopeless confusion'.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Jun 13, 2015 3:26 PM in response to dgfromcpk
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    Jun 13, 2015 3:26 PM in response to dgfromcpk
    Anyone have a good non-Apple program that they have switched to?  I am SO ready...

     

    Love this:  www.lynapp.***

     

    Yes, it can show keywords under thumbnails.

     

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  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 27, 2015 1:53 PM in response to Ziatron
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    May 27, 2015 1:53 PM in response to Ziatron
    Anyone have a good non-Apple program that they have switched to?  I am SO ready...

    Media Pro 1 - there's a demo available.

  • by Johannes Zander,

    Johannes Zander Johannes Zander May 28, 2015 9:15 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 28, 2015 9:15 PM in response to Old Toad

    Photos makes a total mess out of my library. Changing the concept of Events back to Albums is a major step back. I have resort 11000 Photos and I am doing this now for days.  

  • by DenverMartini,

    DenverMartini DenverMartini Jun 2, 2015 10:11 AM in response to dgfromcpk
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    Jun 2, 2015 10:11 AM in response to dgfromcpk

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Photos has changed the dates of many of my photos which has completely messed up the chronological order of the photos. How do I quickly and simply put all my April photos into an album called April 2015, and all the photos I took in England into chronological order and into an album called England? I've already wasted more time trying to figure this out than I can afford.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Jun 2, 2015 10:31 AM in response to DenverMartini
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    Jun 2, 2015 10:31 AM in response to DenverMartini

    DenverMartini wrote:

     

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Photos has changed the dates of many of my photos which has completely messed up the chronological order of the photos. How do I quickly and simply put all my April photos into an album called April 2015, and all the photos I took in England into chronological order and into an album called England? I've already wasted more time trying to figure this out than I can afford.

    There is no way to do what you want at the present time.  Tell Apple what missing features you'd like restored/added in Photos via https://www.apple.com/feedback/photos.html

     

    In the meantime here's something that might help:

     

    Moments in Photos are the new Events, i.e. groupings of photos sorted by date taken.

     

    When the iPhoto Library was first migrated to Photos there was a folder created in the sidebar titled iPhoto Events and all migrated iPhoto Events (which are now Moments) are represented by an album in that folder. To open the sidebar if it's not already open use the Option+Command+S key combination.

     

    There's a way to simulate events in Photos.

    When new photos are imported into the Photos library go to the Last Import smart album, select all the photos and use the File New Album menu option or use the key combination Command+N.  Name it as desired.  It will appear just above the iPhoto Events folder where you can drag it into the iPhoto Events folder

     

    When you click on the iPhoto Events folder you'll get a simulated iPhoto Events window.

    The downside to the simulation is that the Albums/Events can only be sorted automatically by Title. But they can also be sorted manually, either in the sidebar or in the folder's window at the right.

     

    Ask Apple for more sorting options in Photos via https://www.apple.com/feedback/photos.html.

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  • by tjmch,

    tjmch tjmch Jun 25, 2015 1:08 AM in response to dgfromcpk
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    Jun 25, 2015 1:08 AM in response to dgfromcpk

    Photos 1.0 for OS 10.10.3 *****

     

    Photos 1.0  for OS 10.10.3 Must have been created by Arrogant Adolescents who could not imagine that anyone would need more than facial recognition to organize their “Selfies”

     

    GONE are the view / sort by /menu options that were  so helpful in changing the order of photos to newest at top, oldest at the top, sort by star rating ( able to temporarily eliminate all photos below 3 stars), keywords, & CRITICALLY MANUAL SORT

     

    GONE is the 1 to 5 star rating tool that was so helpful to quality sort large numbers of photos in each iPhone import before creating an album of the best photos to send to iMovie.

     

    NEW EDIT / ADJUST TOOL now offers only 2 crude tools; brightness, & saturation. 

    GONE ARE the professional adjustments for: LEVELS, CONTRAST, (avoid saturating skin tones), DEFINITION, HIGHLIGHTS, SHADOWS, SHARPNESS, DE NOISE.

     

    NEW EDIT / FILTERS TOOL now offers only 9 crude tints; GONE are WARMER, COOLER, SEPIA, ANTIQUE, MATTE & VIGNETTE, EDGE BLUR, FADE

     

    EDIT / CROP / ASPECT always reverts to “freeform” if you click the Done button & select a new photo to edit. & what does the Auto button do?

     

    GONE is the EVENTS splitting tool that was so useful to separate & keyword imports form an iPhone.

     

    Photos selected in “All Photos” cannot be dragged to another album or event.

     

    Photos 1.0 is now only useful for amateur photographers who save every photo they take regardless of quality.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 25, 2015 1:29 AM in response to tjmch
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    Jun 25, 2015 1:29 AM in response to tjmch

    NEW EDIT / ADJUST TOOL now offers only 2 crude tools; brightness, & saturation.

    GONE ARE the professional adjustments for: LEVELS, CONTRAST, (avoid saturating skin tones), DEFINITION, HIGHLIGHTS, SHADOWS, SHARPNESS, DE NOISE.

    Look more closely at the "Adjust" panel.  There is a faint blue "Add" button in the upper right corner. "DEFINITION, HIGHLIGHTS, SHADOWS, SHARPNESS, DE NOISE" are there, when you add them. And most Adjustments have disclosure arrows to add more control.

     

    NEW EDIT / FILTERS TOOL now offers only 9 crude tints; GONE are WARMER, COOLER, SEPIA, ANTIQUE, MATTE & VIGNETTE, EDGE BLUR, FADE

    The vignette is also there.

     

    Photos is just the first version of a completely new application, built solely for Yosemite without porting legacy code for more efficiency.  It will take time to develop it further as a full image database system.  That is probably the reason, why Apple continues the support for iPhoto in Yosemite.  Photos 2, to be released this fall, will have more features, as promised in this preview:  Apple — OS X El Capitan

    And it may help to show the scroll bar, so you can see which panels have more items than shown.

     

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 25, 2015 1:39 AM in response to tjmch
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    Jun 25, 2015 1:39 AM in response to tjmch
    Photos selected in “All Photos” cannot be dragged to another album or event.

    You can drag photos from All Photos to any album to add them to the album.  You cannot move photos from the All Photos album,  if that is what you want. All Photos is a smart album.

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