Q: My recent calls appearing on another iPhone!?

With no way to turn them off.

Is it too hard to understand that it wasn't broke until handoff was created? If ID's aren't meant to be shared why does Apple allow it? Don't tell people what to do when you don't know the answer.

Joewalsh91 wrote:

 

Don't tell people what to do when you don't know the answer.

The answer is again: use Family Share if the problem really bothers you.If you want more help contact Apple Support directly.  Actually Apple (or anyone else on this forum) really doesn't care what you do or if you follow the advice given here.  And I really don't care either. Deal with your reality as you wish.

Have a nice day.

I think the misunderstanding is on your part, sir.

I have never had the Hand-off feature enabled. I have used one Apple ID for all of my devices, so it isn't shared with anyone, but is on multiple devices. If you are suggesting that every device needs its own Apple ID, then what is the point of the Mail and Keychain sync capabilities?

Most importantly: what part of "no one reported this issue until starting last Friday, 22 May" is not clear to you? Another poster has stated that they have spoken to Apple via phone, and was told this is not expected behavior. Something changed, and of the 3+ dozen people on this thread, at least one of them (me) never changed a thing on the devices.

Enough with the "don't share Apple ID" stuff. It is a red herring. I've been in this field for 30+ years, and 13 of those were with... Apple. If you can offer a cogent explanation as to why one person sharing an Apple ID across multiple devices is bad, please offer it up to substantiate your claims. Yes, not sharing will "solve" the problem. That makes about as much sense and putting my phone in Airplane mode to stop spam phone calls

It's a cloud-side bug that was introduced around 22 May, and Apple's typically opaque process for fixing anything doesn't help. Let's hope they get enough phone calls to alert the developers. As you say, they aren't paying attention to our nice discussion, lol.

skwirl wrote:

 

 

 

Enough with the "don't share Apple ID" stuff. It is a red herring. I've been in this field for 30+ years, and 13 of those were with... Apple. If you can offer a cogent explanation as to why one person sharing an Apple ID across multiple devices is bad, please offer it up to substantiate your claims.

Is it a red herring? This was just posted:

Separating iMessage due to Divorce

(and this is one of many "problems" due to sharing Apple IDs that have been aired here on this forum; do a search if you don not believe me). In any case, the solution as of this moment (unless you have a better one and/or until Apple recognizes the "bug" and fixes it) is the one I have explained.

Have a nice day.

You just replied the exact same thing to another guys post about the exact same issue, like 48 hours ago.   Can you actually try to help?  It seems like you have the knowledge but you also have some weird grudge against people who share an iCloud account.  It's going to be shared, stop trying to be the iCloud account sharing police. This same issue is happening to me and obviously, a lot of other people as well.  So instead of trying to browbeat people into submitting to separate iCloud accounts (which is not freakin practical for a family, especially one with kids with phones) please try to be helpful.  The guy you said this to earlier this week, you basically derailed his entire question and made it about something that he didn't even post about.  And for God sakes, TURNING OFF IPHONE CELLULAR CALLS IN FACETIME IS NOT THE ANSWER.  IT STILL HAPPENS.....OUT OF THE BLUE.....ALL OF THE SUDDEN.....WITH NO CRAZY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SETTINGS.   

I Totally agree with you. Some of us with a home and work divice would like to share certain parts of iCloud like colander and contacts. I have always shared and this is the first time this bug appear and for me it only happened once. The only thing I did was to delete all recent calls on device one which was copied from and that seem to work.

Jasoncassidy wrote:

 

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(which is not freakin practical for a family, especially one with kids with phones) please try to be helpful. 

 

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I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Last time I checked the definition of "family" included kids. So I guess Family Sharing is REALLY  impractical for you:

Family Sharing - Apple Support

Next time before you post out of the blue, I suggest you take a chill pill and actually read the thread.

Well, I wasn't even talking to you, but I appreciate you jumping to the defense of the guy I was talking to.  Also, I did see, after my post, that there is an option to create an apple id for a kid.  Great idea!  Solves that problem.  Some "kids" meaning "too young to need their own apple id" is what I was referring to.  All that being said, you are defending the wrong point.  Funny how you "Way TOO Serious" high level posters only seem to reiterate "fix the root of the problem by not having an apple id shared between people.  I too agree that you should use a product for the reasons it was intended.  The funny part is that you are just asking all of us "joint apple id folks" to just ignore the real issue that appeared out of the blue on May 22nd or so and just "divide your apple ids".  That'll fix the problem.... or just prevent you from experiencing a problem that still looms in the background.  So, I think that I have acknowledged your jab at me about Kids, admitted you were right about a few things and was very logical in my argument. 

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Our problem is identical. No changes to any settings prior to having recent call history appear on our second iPhone. We've used one ID for 5 devices flawlessly for over 4 years. No issues until now. Family Sharing is not a solution; it's a bypass that doesn't address the change in behavior. Jasoncassidy's experience is identical to our experience.

The answer is simple. DO NOT SHARE AN ICLOUD ID. There is no reason to and they were NOT meant to be shared.

Then why has this been allowed by APPLE since the beginning of time?

Just because you can do it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Before iOS 7, you could use and reset an iPhone without wiping the Apple ID off it. Once Activation Lock came along, that went out of the picture. Here's the official stance from Apple on sharing the same Apple ID:

Can I share my Apple ID with someone else?

You shouldn't share your Apple ID with anyone else. It provides access to personal information including contacts, photos, device backups, and more. Sharing your Apple ID with someone else means you're giving them access to all your personal content, and it may lead to confusion about who actually owns the account.

To share photos, a calendar, iTunes purchases and more with someone else, try these sharing features.

Frequently asked questions about Apple ID - Apple Support

No one ever said every device has to have its own Apple ID. The reason things like Keychain and Handoff are being added is because Apple is assuming only one person is using the same Apple ID on multiple devices (for example, if I had an iPhone, iPad, and Mac), and wants all their devices to be synced. Apple is adding more and more features like iPhone Cellular Calls and Handoff that assume you'll be the only one using the Apple ID, so this is only going to cause more problems. The syncing of call history is just another change in that direction, and it's not going to go away. Now that they introduced Family Sharing, there's literally nothing you can't share with someone who has another Apple ID. There's really no good reason to share an Apple ID with someone else unless you just don't feel like spending five minutes creating a new Apple ID.

As strict as Apple is with apps and software why don't they restrict sharing ID's? Simple, it always has and always will be done until they block it. Creating another account is just one more security issue. Why do I want to create another account, remember another password, agree to more stipulations, give my credit card info out and answer and remember another set of security questions when all I want to do is sync. apps on 2 phones. It's a privacy issue and the less info out there the better.

Joewalsh91 wrote:

 

Then why has this been allowed by APPLE since the beginning of time?

What, Apple is supposed to design things so it's impossible for you to do something stupid? Sorry. It doesn't matter how idiot proof they make something, there will always be a bigger idiot.