Steve Zodiac

Q: Photos app for Mac is complete rubbish! Is there any way to revert to iPhoto?

The title says it all really.

 

I suspect that I'm going to be disappointed with the answer though.

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)

Posted on May 28, 2015 2:33 AM

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Q: Photos app for Mac is complete rubbish! Is there any way to revert to iPhoto?

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  • by R C-R,Solvedanswer

    R C-R R C-R May 28, 2015 2:37 AM in response to Steve Zodiac
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    May 28, 2015 2:37 AM in response to Steve Zodiac

    iPhoto should still be in your Applications folder. Drag it to the Dock if you want or open it from the Applications folder. If you get a message saying it isn't compatible with 10.10.3, see the user tip, Get iPhoto 9.6.1 if you didn't update before OS X 10.10.3 by Barney-15E for a solution to that issue.

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    Steve Zodiac Steve Zodiac May 28, 2015 2:44 AM in response to R C-R
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    May 28, 2015 2:44 AM in response to R C-R

    Wow! That was a whole load more straightforward than I thought it would be!   (I didn't need the user tip, it just opened.)

     

    But opening it is one thing... Getting it to work like it used to, with cross-platform photo-streaming and automatic imports may be another. I will explore.

     

    Thank you very much indeed for the answer.

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    Steve Zodiac Steve Zodiac May 28, 2015 4:11 AM in response to Steve Zodiac
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    May 28, 2015 4:11 AM in response to Steve Zodiac

    Okay, I now have iPhoto working again. Lovely to see that brushed aluminium effect again after Yosemite.

     

    I have Photo Stream working, and I've got iPhoto launching as soon as I plug in my camera, ready for importing. Lovely.

     

    The only snag seems to be that photos I import into it from a non-Apple device, (ie. my camera), do not seem to appear in the Photos app on my iPhone any more.

     

    (In fact they weren't doing that anyway, when I was still using Photos for Mac. I imported images from my camera into Photos, but they never appeared in my iPhone Photos app. Could this have begun when I upgraded iOS 8.3 I wonder; I'm sure they used to get onto my iPhone at one stage...)

     

    I think I have all the settings set correctly:

    On my Mac in System Prefs>iCloud>Photos I have 'My Photo Stream' and 'iCloud Photo Sharing' ticked. (But not iCloud Photo Library -because I have too many for the free version.)

    On my iPhone in Settings>iCloud>Photos I have iCloud Photo Library and Upload to My Photo Stream turned on.

     

    Any suggestions anyone please?

  • by Steve Zodiac,

    Steve Zodiac Steve Zodiac May 30, 2015 3:04 AM in response to Steve Zodiac
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    May 30, 2015 3:04 AM in response to Steve Zodiac

    Okay, I just wanted to tell anyone who might have the same problem with non-streaming photos since the upgrade to OS X 10.10.3 that I have now 'solved' the problem myself, and I have streaming back...

     

    BUT...

     

    Solving it is costing me nearly three quid a month, which I regard as a bit of a con by Apple.

     

    Reluctantly, I decided that the only way I could get photos streaming to my iPhone again was to turn on iCloud Photo Library in Sys Prefs>iCloud>Photos on my Mac.

     

    As I have a vast collection of pre-digital (real film) scanned family photos, (which I really didn't, and don't, want to stream anywhere at all), Apple forced me to 'upgrade' to a 200GB iCloud and are charging me £2.99 for the privilege. But it seems that since the 10.10.3 upgrade one can only either have all or nothing.

     

    I now have new photos I took on my various cameras streaming to my iPhone though, which is what I wanted, (and was possible for free with iPhoto under previous versions of OS X).

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 30, 2015 4:13 AM in response to Steve Zodiac
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    May 30, 2015 4:13 AM in response to Steve Zodiac

    Steve Zodiac wrote:

    As I have a vast collection of pre-digital (real film) scanned family photos, (which I really didn't, and don't, want to stream anywhere at all), Apple forced me to 'upgrade' to a 200GB iCloud and are charging me £2.99 for the privilege. But it seems that since the 10.10.3 upgrade one can only either have all or nothing.

     

    I now have new photos I took on my various cameras streaming to my iPhone though, which is what I wanted, (and was possible for free with iPhoto under previous versions of OS X).

    You seem to be confusing Photo Stream with iCloud Photo Library. As these two FAQ's explain, photos uploaded to your "My Photo Stream" do not count against your iCloud storage & are only stored on the iCloud servers for 30 days (subject to these limits). This is a free iCloud service which, from your mention of just wanting new photos streamed to your iPhone, sounds like what you should be using. (Note that you can copy shared Photo Stream photos to the phone using Share > Save Image if you want them to remain on the phone.)

     

    Alternative ways to avoid paying for extra iCloud Photo Library storage include using two or more Photo Libraries -- since only the library designated as the System Photo Library can be used with iCloud services, limiting that library to less than 5 GB will avoid the need to pay for more storage -- & using referenced files stored outside the library, since photos and videos outside your Photos library aren’t stored in your iCloud Photo Library.

     

    There is no "con" on Apple's part in any of this. As you can see from all the links I included (& from several I have not) Apple documents all of this quite well, although admittedly it does take some effort to find it all.

  • by Steve Zodiac,

    Steve Zodiac Steve Zodiac May 30, 2015 6:38 AM in response to R C-R
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    May 30, 2015 6:38 AM in response to R C-R

    Yes, well, thanks for your input, but in fact I think I did know the difference between Photo Stream and iCloud Photo Library.

     

    In Sys Prefs>iCloud>Photos>Options the 'My Photo Stream' box was ticked, as I believe it had been before the upgrade to 10.10.3, when the Photo Stream worked exactly as advertised whenever I manually imported photos into iPhoto.

     

    But the problem, for me anyway, was that it stopped working like that as soon as I upgraded to 10.10.3 and Photos for Mac. No matter how I configured the iCloud/Photo Stream settings, on my Mac and my iPhone, no photos at all were arriving on my iPhone. Photo Stream, simply wasn't working! At all!

     

    The only option that seemed available to me was to turn on iCloud Photo Library, and since I've done that my photos ARE streaming, which sort of proves my point that I couldn't stream photos without iCloud Photo Library being turned on. It may just be me, but that is definitely the situation I was in.

     

    The 'con' I refer to is that I was prevented from turning on iCloud Photo Library unless I upgraded to the 200GB iCloud storage option, but I couldn't stream without it. I still maintain that that is a bit of a con.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 30, 2015 6:59 AM in response to Steve Zodiac
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    May 30, 2015 6:59 AM in response to Steve Zodiac

    Steve Zodiac wrote:

    The 'con' I refer to is that I was prevented from turning on iCloud Photo Library unless I upgraded to the 200GB iCloud storage option, but I couldn't stream without it. I still maintain that that is a bit of a con.

    As I said, Apple provides two different ways to avoid having to upgrade the amount of storage needed to use the iCloud Photo Library service.