Charlie Franklin1

Q: Safari Can't establish a secure connection

I seem to continually get problems were Safari can't establish a secure connection to certain https web sites.

 

Sometimes I can open a private browsing window and get the link to work, and sometimes not.

 

In addition, when I open the Evernote app it tells me it can't establish a connection to its server, so I assume the problems might be related.

 

I have searched through all the forums and tried lots of different things, many of which are recommended by a user Linc but nothing seems to work. The latest was the full list shown in this link.

 

Safari 8.0.3 Can't establish a secure connection to the server

 

So, can anybody help me work through this and sort it out.

 

 

Thanks in anticipation

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), system running OWC SSD card

Posted on May 31, 2015 4:44 PM

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis May 31, 2015 5:34 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    May 31, 2015 5:34 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    Please post a direct link to a page you're having trouble with, if possible. It must be open to anyone without a login.

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 May 31, 2015 8:41 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    May 31, 2015 8:41 PM in response to Linc Davis
  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis May 31, 2015 9:03 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    May 31, 2015 9:03 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    Double-click anywhere in the line of text below on this page to select it, then copy it to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C:

    www.paypal.com

    Launch the Network Utility application.

    Step 1

    Select the Lookup tab and paste into the address field by pressing command-V. Then press return. Post the output that appears below – the text, please, not a screenshot.

    Step 2

    Select the Ping tab and do the same. Please enter the same input as you did in Step 1. Don't use the output of Step 1 as input to Step 2.

    Important Note

    Some web browsers and mail clients will automatically convert a domain name such as "www.example.com" to a clickable URL, such as http://www.example.com. That will interfere with the test. If necessary, edit the input in the Network Utility window to remove any added characters.

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 Jun 1, 2015 12:24 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 1, 2015 12:24 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Linc Thanks

     

    Step 1

    www.paypal.com -> 184.28.9.15

     

     

    Step 2

    Ping has started…

     

    PING e6166.a.akamaiedge.net (184.28.9.15): 56 data bytes

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=37.561 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=38.207 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=38.638 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=37.515 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=37.724 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=48.624 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=38.056 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=36.889 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=39.204 ms

    64 bytes from 184.28.9.15: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=38.499 ms

     

    --- e6166.a.akamaiedge.net ping statistics ---

    10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 36.889/39.092/48.624/3.238 ms

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 1, 2015 6:10 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    Jun 1, 2015 6:10 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    Start up in safe mode and log in to the account with the problem.

    Note: If FileVault is enabled in OS X 10.9 or earlier, or if a firmware password is set, or if the startup volume is a software RAID, you can’t do this. Ask for further instructions.

    Safe mode is much slower to start up and run than normal, with limited graphics performance, and some things won’t work at all, including sound output and Wi-Fi on certain models. The next normal startup may also be somewhat slow.

    The login screen appears even if you usually login automatically. You must know your login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.

    If the problem is not reproducible in safe mode, then it's caused by third-party "anti-virus" or "security" software. If you know what that software is, remove it as directed by the developer after backing up all data. If you don't know what it is, ask for instructions.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jun 1, 2015 2:24 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    Jun 1, 2015 2:24 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    Do you have the Avast anti-virus software installed? If so, remove it. It can cause these kinds of problems, and it's junk.

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 Jun 1, 2015 3:35 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 1, 2015 3:35 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Still the same problem when started in safe mode.

     

    Charlie

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 1, 2015 7:08 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    Jun 1, 2015 7:08 PM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    This could be a complicated problem to solve, as there are several possible causes for it.

    Back up all data, then take each of the following steps that you haven't already taken. Stop when the problem is resolved.

    Step 1

    From the menu bar, select

               ▹ System Preferences... ▹ Date & Time

    Select the Time Zone tab in the preference pane that opens and check that the time zone matches your location. Then select the Date & Time tab. Check that the data and time shown (including the year) are correct, and correct them if not.

    Check the box marked 

              Set date and time automatically

    if it's not already checked, and select one of the Apple time servers from the menu next to it.

    Step 2

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    /System/Library/Keychains/SystemCACertificates.keychain

    Right-click or control-click the highlighted line and select

              Services Show Info

    from the contextual menu.* An Info dialog should open. The dialog should show "You can only read" in the Sharing & Permissions section.

    Repeat with this line:

    /System/Library/Keychains/SystemRootCertificates.keychain

    If instead of the Info dialog, you get a message that either file can't be found, reinstall OS X.

    *If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Open a TextEdit window and paste into it by pressing command-V. Select the line you just pasted and continue as above.

    Step 3

    Launch the Keychain Access application in any of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.

    In the upper left corner of the window, you should see a list headed Keychains. If not, click the button in the lower left corner that looks like a triangle inside a square.

    In the Keychains list, there should be items named System and System Roots. If not, select

              File Add Keychain

    from the menu bar and add the following items:

    /Library/Keychains/System.keychain
    /System/Library/Keychains/SystemRootCertificates.keychain

    Open the View menu in the menu bar. If one of the items in the menu is

              Show Expired Certificates

    select it. Otherwise it will show

              Hide Expired Certificates

    which is what you want.

    From the Category list in the lower left corner of the window, select Certificates. Look carefully at the list of certificates in the right side of the window. If any of them has a blue-and-white plus sign or a red "X" in the icon, double-click it. An inspection window will open. Click the disclosure triangle labeled Trust to disclose the trust settings for the certificate. From the menu labeled

              Secure Sockets Layer (SSL)

    select

              no value specified

    Close the inspection window. You'll be prompted for your administrator password to update the settings.

    Now open the same inspection window again, and select

              When using this certificate: Use System Defaults

    Save the change in the same way as before.

    Revert all the certificates with non-default trust settings. Never again change any of those settings.

    Step 4

    Select My Certificates from the Category list. From the list of certificates shown, delete any that are marked with a red X as expired or invalid.

    Export all remaining certificates, delete them from the keychain, and reimport. For instructions, select

              Help Keychain Access Help

    from the menu bar and search for the term "export" in the help window. Export each certificate as an individual file; don't combine them into one big file.

    Step 5

    From the menu bar, select

              Keychain Access Preferences... Certificates

    There are three menus in the window. Change the selection in the top two to Best attempt, and in the bottom one to  CRL.

    Step 6

    Triple-click anywhere in the line of text below on this page to select it:

    /var/db/crls

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select

              Go Go to Folder...

    from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You won't see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

    A folder named "crls" should open. Move all the files in that folder to the Trash. You’ll be prompted for your administrator login password.

    Restart the computer, empty the Trash, and test.

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 Jun 2, 2015 11:57 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 2, 2015 11:57 PM in response to Linc Davis

    I've done all that.

     

    Still the same problem.

     

    I have just found out that Firefox can open the link  https://www.paypal.com/ and Safari won't if that helps with diagnosing it.

     

     

    Charlie

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jun 3, 2015 3:50 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    Jun 3, 2015 3:50 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    What Safari extensions do you have installed? In Safari's preferences, click the Extensions icon to see a list of all installed extensions. Try turning them all off, using the big on/off switch, and see if that makes a difference.

  • by adjfromgb,

    adjfromgb adjfromgb Jun 3, 2015 4:46 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jun 3, 2015 4:46 AM in response to thomas_r.

    I had the same problem and this solution helped me.

     

    I've had my macbook for a year and I feel like every time I install something it gets a bit slower, juddery or internet pages don't load.

    Probably from the Yosemite thing.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 3, 2015 6:05 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1
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    Jun 3, 2015 6:05 AM in response to Charlie Franklin1

    Please read this whole message before doing anything.

    This procedure is a diagnostic test. It won’t solve your problem. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.

    The purpose of this test is to determine whether the problem is localized to your user account. Enable guest logins* and log in as Guest. Don't use the Safari-only “Guest User” login created by “Find My Mac.”

    While logged in as Guest, you won’t have access to any of your documents or settings. Applications will behave as if you were running them for the first time. Don’t be alarmed by this behavior; it’s normal. If you need any passwords or other personal data in order to complete the test, memorize, print, or write them down before you begin.

    Test while logged in as Guest. Same problem?

    After testing, log out of the guest account and, in your own account, disable it if you wish. Any files you created in the guest account will be deleted automatically when you log out of it.

    *Note: If you’ve activated “Find My Mac” or FileVault in OS X 10.7 or later, then you can’t enable the Guest account. The "Guest User" login created by "Find My Mac" is not the same. Create a new account in which to test, and delete it, including its home folder, after testing.

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 Jun 3, 2015 2:40 PM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jun 3, 2015 2:40 PM in response to thomas_r.

    I turned them off.

     

    No difference

  • by Charlie Franklin1,

    Charlie Franklin1 Charlie Franklin1 Jun 3, 2015 3:09 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Jun 3, 2015 3:09 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Had to create a new account to test, but the problem is still there

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