Mark72658
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Q: GPS data not available to apps after iOS 8.3 update

I'm using a Wi-Fi only iPad with remote GPS connected via bluetooth (Bad Elf GPS Pro).  Following update to 8.3, the GPS position data from the Bad Elf receiver is not available to other apps on the iPad that require it (in particular, Seattle Avionics FlyQ efb).  Bad Elf bluetooth connection is good, and the GPS position data is displayed on the iPad using the Bad Elf accessory app, but it appears to not be available to the FlyQ app.  Spent hours with tech support and other paths trying to fix this problem, including reloading iOS 8.3 update and applications, and even bought a new Bad Elf GPS receiver.  I think this is a fairly common hardware/software combination (Wi-Fi only iPad, Bad Elf GPS, FlyQ app) for private aircraft pilots, so would expect others to be seeing the same problem (unless they were smarter than I was, and delayed updating their OS).  Have others experienced this problem or found a solution?  Quite frustrating, as navigation is the primary use for my iPad.

iPad (4th gen) Wi-Fi, iOS 8.3

Posted on Apr 12, 2015 5:31 PM

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  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie May 31, 2015 6:37 PM in response to PilotDon
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    May 31, 2015 6:37 PM in response to PilotDon

    You could wait 24 hours and then check the websites for the devices to see if they are working.

  • by Irene39@zeeland net.nl,

    Irene39@zeeland net.nl Irene39@zeeland net.nl Jun 2, 2015 4:35 AM in response to Mark72658
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    Jun 2, 2015 4:35 AM in response to Mark72658

    Irene :  I Bought a gns 2000 , and last year it worked on charts , but This year No communication between iPad is possible.

                 Why is Apple not capabel to solve This GPS problem

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jun 2, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Irene39@zeeland net.nl
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    Jun 2, 2015 1:34 PM in response to Irene39@zeeland net.nl

    Have you read all this thread?

     

    Pete

  • by Hedley Berge,

    Hedley Berge Hedley Berge Jun 4, 2015 12:03 AM in response to deggie
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    Jun 4, 2015 12:03 AM in response to deggie

    I Just thought that it might be time to point out that most of the Bluetooth GPS devices that no longer communicate with I devices were sold as MFI products and certified to operate with Apple devices running IOS.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jun 4, 2015 1:44 AM in response to Hedley Berge
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    Jun 4, 2015 1:44 AM in response to Hedley Berge

    But iOS what? Please provide a link for others.

     

    Thanks

     

    Pete

  • by Hedley Berge,

    Hedley Berge Hedley Berge Jun 4, 2015 2:27 AM in response to petermac87
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    Jun 4, 2015 2:27 AM in response to petermac87

    NO need for a link.  Bad elf state exactly what I said on their home page.

     

    This is copied from Duals web site under their FAQ section

    Does the iPod touch/iPad/iPhone have to be jail broken in order to work with the GPS Receiver? No, the GPS Receiver has been certified to work with iPod touch, iPad and iPhone. - See more at: http://gps.dualav.com/explore-by-lifestyle/outdoors/xgps150-for-golfing-geocachi ng-hiking-etc/#sthash.iVHVu5mc.dpuf


    There products were designed to work with I devices and certified as such.  They did not exploit any Apple software deficiency to work using versions of IOS before 8.3. 

    I have one of these devices and am waiting as patiently as I can for a solution.

    i Hope it is soon in 8.4.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jun 4, 2015 2:36 AM in response to Hedley Berge
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    Jun 4, 2015 2:36 AM in response to Hedley Berge

    Hedley Berge wrote:

     

    NO need for a link. 

    But thanks for supplying one for others anyway.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by clam45,

    clam45 clam45 Jun 4, 2015 8:12 AM in response to Hedley Berge
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    Jun 4, 2015 8:12 AM in response to Hedley Berge

    NNobody knows that our GPS receivers will work with IOS8.4  so I will buy a new one that works now. Happy looking forward to the. Ext IOS Update .............

    to to find out that the new receiver  /. The most expensive  one is not compatible withe the. Ew firmware. Welcome to our wonderful new cyber / industry friendly world

  • by rccharles,

    rccharles rccharles Jun 4, 2015 8:39 AM in response to Hedley Berge
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    Jun 4, 2015 8:39 AM in response to Hedley Berge

    "Does the iPod touch/iPad/iPhone have to be jail broken in order to work with the GPS Receiver?

    No, the GPS Receiver has been certified to work with iPod touch, iPad and iPhone."

    http://gps.dualav.com/explore-by-lifestyle/outdoors/xgps150-for-golfing-geocachi ng-hiking-etc/

     

    Certified by whom?  Certified is a fancy word, but without knowing the details, it is rather meaningless. Anyway, it would be for a particular set of circumstance -- particular iDevice, particular version of ios and particular gps device with set firmware.  Any changes such as upgrade of ios would void the certification.

     

    Robert

  • by Hedley Berge,

    Hedley Berge Hedley Berge Jun 5, 2015 12:07 AM in response to rccharles
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    Jun 5, 2015 12:07 AM in response to rccharles

    It appears to me that a great many people viewing this topic have there heads firmly buried in the sand.

     

    The suppliers of these Bluetooth GPS units in the main have worked with Apple to get the MFI certification and have apps on the App Store that work in conjunction with their products.

     

    I have a Dual XGPS150 that was working perfectly well using various versions of IOS up until IOS 8.3.

    i Note hat the app supplied by Dual is still able to see the data from the GPS via Bluetooth as it accesses it at a deeper level than other apps that use the daTa from the GPS.

     

    It is also important to note that this problem does not affect I devices with the Lightning connector.

     

    i Will await the release of IOS 8.4

  • by kislingj,

    kislingj kislingj Jun 5, 2015 3:16 AM in response to Mark72658
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    Jun 5, 2015 3:16 AM in response to Mark72658

    Very disappointed in Apple lately.

     

    Apple prided itself in making the iPad something people use in a broad variety of fields, flying/navigating has been even featured by Apple in their commercials. We're not talking about some hack that has been inadvertantly disabled, but offical third party equipment together with Apps from the App Store. Two months on, the problem has been acknowledged and fixed in iOS 8.4 beta, but no official hotfix or public release. What does Apple tell us with this? Better don't rely on us and the platform.

     

    By the way, Yosemite broke something essential as normal pdf viewing in Preview (non-Retina displays). Unbelievable they didn't care to fix this yet.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jun 5, 2015 3:20 AM in response to kislingj
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    Jun 5, 2015 3:20 AM in response to kislingj

    kislingj wrote:

     

     

     

    By the way, Yosemite broke something essential as normal pdf viewing in Preview (non-Retina displays). Unbelievable they didn't care to fix this yet.

    What? I have seen no such thing. What exactly are you referring to and please provide a link to your source.

     

    Thanks

     

    Pete

  • by kislingj,

    kislingj kislingj Jun 5, 2015 3:27 AM in response to petermac87
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    Jun 5, 2015 3:27 AM in response to petermac87

    This Font in Preview blurry and other sources on the web. Apple changed PDF kit, so now pdf text appears very blurry on non-retina displays. A long known issue. Some worked around this by replacing Yosemite's PDF kit with Maverick's, but, come on! It's been like this since autumn.

     

    P.S.: PDF viewing works normal in Safari, but not in its dedicated app, Preview...

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jun 5, 2015 4:49 AM in response to kislingj
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    Jun 5, 2015 4:49 AM in response to kislingj

    Have over twenty Macs in the studio and not one is displaying this issue with Preview. Not to say that it is not on your Mac but I have never seen it.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by kislingj,

    kislingj kislingj Jun 5, 2015 7:17 PM in response to petermac87
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    Jun 5, 2015 7:17 PM in response to petermac87

    Interesting - are your Macs non-retina?

     

    Didn't have this issue before with Mavericks or earlier on my 2011 MBP 15", but now I do. The thread I linked and others show I'm not alone.

     

    Cheers.

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