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Q: Creating a separate 2.4 bandwidth on the Airport Extreme network.

My security camera cannot pick up the Airport Extreme network due to it being dual band. It only works on the 2.4 network. Does anyone know how I can create a separate 2.4 network on the Airport network?

Posted on Jun 11, 2015 11:09 AM

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Q: Creating a separate 2.4 bandwidth on the Airport Extreme network.

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  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 11:13 AM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 11:13 AM in response to PhatPiggy

    We already spent quite a bit of time on this with you in this thread.

     

    How can I get a devise that only works on 2.4 to access the airport?

     

    What is different now from before?

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 2:21 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jun 11, 2015 2:21 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    Bob,

     

    I followed your instructions and it wiped out my old network. I had to reestablish the network and reconnect all my devices. I do not want that. I just want to create a new network w/o wiping out the current settings for the network.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Thomas

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 2:51 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 2:51 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    Not sure what you mean when you say that the settings wiped out your old network.

     

    The settings that I gave you would have only changed the name of the 5 GHz network. The 2.4 GHz network name would have stayed the same.

     

    You can set things up manually again if you want.

     

    Open up AirPort Utility, click on Manual Setup and click the Wireless tab below the row of icons.

     

    Enter the name of the 2.4 GHz network that you want to use here.

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 4.37.06 PM.png

     

    Now click the Wireless Options button near the bottom of the window, and another window will open that looks like this:

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 4.39.31 PM.png

     

    Enter a check mark in the box next to 5 GHz Name and that will automatically assign 5 GHz to the 5 GHz network name

    Click Done

     

    Click Update and the new settings will be saved.

     

    This is the only way to do what you want. There are no other options.

     

    Once you do this, you will need to select either the name of your normal network.....which is the 2.4 GHz signal

    or

    Select the name of the network with 5 GHz added.....which is the 5 GHz signal

     

    The password is the same for both networks

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 3:14 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jun 11, 2015 3:14 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    Thanks Bob. I was able to follow your instructions and created a new 5GHz network. Unfortunately, the camera still cannot pick up the regular 2.4GHz network. Very strange. Maybe it has to do with the name, which you eluded before. It has a special character. What is the best way to change the name w/o affecting the network settings?

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 3:42 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 3:42 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    Nothing has changed. These are the same instructions that I gave you before.

     

    All you need to do is edit/change the name of the regular network on the wireless settings page

     

    Keep the name of the network short and simple

    No special characters

    Use only normal letters and numbers

    No blank spaces

     

    Click Update to save the new network name(s).

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 4:09 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:09 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    Bob, can you give me the instructions again. It is strange. When I go in to change the name, I lose connection. It is like it won't let me change the name. I can but I lose connection. Once I go back and change it back to phatpiggy's, I get a connection. Any idea why this is happening?

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 4:13 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:13 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    Of course you lose the connection......you changed the name of the network.....and your Mac does not know what to do.

    Make the changes in AirPort Utility

    Wait a minute for the AirPort router to restart and display a green light

    Then click the WiFi icon at the top of the Macs screen and select the new network you named

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 4:21 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:21 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    I do not mean I lose temp connection. I lose the connection permanently. I cannot connect. I have to keep reverting it to the original name for me to re-establish connection. I can list the 5GHz name to PhatPiggy and it works. However, the normal for some reason, I cannot change. If I change it, I lose connection altogether. I have to change it back for me to get a connection for either the 2.4 or 5. It sounds strange but that is what is happening. Any ideas?

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 4:26 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:26 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    You mean, you name a new network   "network"  in AirPort Utility, and once the AirPort restarts, you can't connect to "network"?

     

    If that is the case, I cannot duplicate that error. Perhaps another user can help.

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 4:32 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:32 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    No, I change PhatPiggy's Wifi to PhatPiggy and I lose the connection permanently. I have to revert it back to PhatPiggy's for me to regain connection. Once I do that, I can create the 5GHz to PhatPiggy. However, the camera still cannot pick it up. If I can change the regular network to PhatPiggy, it may work. However, it is not allowing me to make the change.

  • by LaPastenague,

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jun 11, 2015 4:46 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:46 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    Always start from factory reset.. Do not change the name of existing wireless..

     

    Clear out all settings.. factory reset the AE

     

    Factory reset universal

    Power off the AE.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the AE to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.

     


    In the computer you run the setup on.. clear out all the existing wireless network names.. reboot the computer and start over.


    In the setup wizard with the airport utility use your new name.. and make sure it complies with the rules for every network OS to join..


    Short, no spaces and pure alphanumeric.


    Passwords should also comply but longer, mixed case and numbers is fine.

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Jun 11, 2015 4:50 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:50 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    I can't explain that one, but I suspect that the keychain (which saves the names and passwords) in Windows is confused and corrupted due to all the changes.....but I don't have a PC here to test with. Maybe a PC guy can help us out.

     

    But sooner or later, I think that you will need to reset the AirPort back to factory default settings and then start all over again.

     

    Use a completely different device name for the AirPort, and different wireless names and passwords if you decide to do this....to avoid conflicts with the stored names and passwords in the Windows keychain.

     

    Would also be better if you had a Mac or an iPhone or iPad to use for the setup, since Apple has not updated the Windows software in over 3 years.

  • by PhatPiggy,

    PhatPiggy PhatPiggy Jun 11, 2015 4:50 PM in response to LaPastenague
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:50 PM in response to LaPastenague

    You mean "revert?" I do not see an option to reset on the wireless option tab.

  • by LaPastenague,

    LaPastenague LaPastenague Jun 11, 2015 4:54 PM in response to PhatPiggy
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    Jun 11, 2015 4:54 PM in response to PhatPiggy

    PhatPiggy wrote:

     

    You mean "revert?" I do not see an option to reset on the wireless option tab.

    No not revert..

     

    I said FACTORY RESET.

     

    I then gave instructions on how to reset.. here they are ..

     

    AGAIN

     

    Factory reset universal

    Power off the AE.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the AE to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.