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Q: Many black thumbnails iPhoto '11.  What to do ?

iMac Intel Core Duo  2.4 GHz with 4 GB RAM and OS 10.68.  iPhoto has about 5% black thumbnails, most of which , but not all, disclose a picture upon clicking.  Other than backing up the iPhoto Library and following this Apple tech note:  iPhoto 6 and later: Rebuilding the iPhoto library - Apple Support   is there anything to do ?

 

Would you agree that Options 1, 2, & 6 should be checked ?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on May 24, 2015 12:02 AM

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Q: Many black thumbnails iPhoto '11.  What to do ?

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  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp May 29, 2015 10:39 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 29, 2015 10:39 AM in response to Old Toad

    Old Toad, you are a MacGenius.   Inside PICTURES there is another folder PICTURES.  in there is another iPhoto Library  and an iPhoto Library (original) both with the unique icons, then there a folder called iPhoto Library Recovered Photos and  iPhoto Library Recovered Photos 2.

     

    This IPL inside Pictures inside Pictures is 142.29 GB !!

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp May 29, 2015 11:54 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 29, 2015 11:54 AM in response to Old Toad

    Okay !   I put an asterisk by the largest iPhoto library, then used your OPTION key and launched iPhoto.  Selected the one with the asterisk and that Liobrary loaded in with 32,271 photos.   They are all grey, but show a picture when clicking on each one.  Now what ?

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 29, 2015 12:15 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    May 29, 2015 12:15 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    In the All Photos window select all of the photos, right click and select Rotate Clockwise.

    Screen Shot 2015-05-29 at 12.13.12 PM.jpg

    Repeat but this time hold down the Option when right clicking and select Rotate Counterclockwise

    Photos001.jpg

     

     

    This will force Photos to recreate the thumbnails.  Thanks to léonie for this trick.

     

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    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp May 29, 2015 1:30 PM in response to Old Toad
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  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 12:40 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 12:40 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    Heard a rumor that iPhoto was never meant to manage > 20,000 photos.  True ?

     

    How about the people getting a new i7 iMac, and importing the file into the replacement Application,  Photos ?

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jun 11, 2015 12:54 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 12:54 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    Heard a rumor that iPhoto was never meant to manage > 20,000 photos.  True ?

     

    No. The earliest versions of iPhoto were good for 25k images, iPhoto 6 to iPhoto 09 had a top limit of 250,000 images and iPhoto 11 was good for 1,000,000 in any one library. It's the kind of factoid someone misread on the back of a cereal box about 10 years ago. It was wrong to begin with and takes no allowance of the fact that apps change as the develop.

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    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 7:56 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jun 11, 2015 7:56 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Thank you, Mr. Devlin.   Any documentation of this?   Please provide a link which gives your limits.  That 20k limit was alleged to me by two highly trusted people.

     

    I haven't tried the IPLM yet.  After using IPLM is used, then the Library is opened in iPhoto, will anything change, such as the separation into events on the left hand column ?

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jun 11, 2015 8:26 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 8:26 AM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    All documentation on this is in the Apple Support site and I'm sure you can search as well I can. Even trusted people make errors.

     

    Library Manager will copy (or try to) your photos and all the associated metadata and versions to this new Library, and arrange it as close as it can to what you had in the damaged Library. It does this based on information it finds in the iPhoto sharing mechanism - but that means that things not shared won't be there, so no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your events, albums and keywords, faces and places back.

     

    Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 9:42 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jun 11, 2015 9:42 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Thanks, Mr. D.  Both the people were Apple Geniuses in two different Apple Stores.

     

    May I keep the original (or duplicate) iPhoto Library on an external drive and make the IPLM reprocessed Library also on the external drive?

     

    Then when opening the Library made by IPLM in iPhoto, will iPhoto's repair sequences still need to be run, or will the repaired Library by IPLM have an excellent chance of working properly?

     

    (I tried acknowledging your posts which "helped me" but that feature has not be working for weeks)

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jun 11, 2015 1:35 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 1:35 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
    Apple Geniuses in two different Apple Stores

     

    That's a job title not an actual description. We've seen many folks on here confused by information from that source.

     

    You can read the help on Library Manager - or indeed, read it all at the Website for the app. That will answer all your questions. But yes it is possible to run on an external and there is an excellent chance that the Library will work normally.

     

    You only have two helpful statuses to award per thread.

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 2:02 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jun 11, 2015 2:02 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    Thank you.  Will try it tonight.

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    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 8:59 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 8:59 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    Not doing well with IPLM.   It recognizes the GB of the Library on one partition of the external drive, but when going to Rebuild Library nothing happens… except it repeatedly adds the process entries.  Any suggestions?Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 8.49.50 PM.png

     

     

    Although nothing is happening, when trying to quit IPLM, this warning flag appears:

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 8.58.10 PM.png

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 10:46 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 10:46 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    Got IPLM working by quitting each of the processes by quitting the app.   It starting rebuilding, but for 35 minutes is hung up here:

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 10.38.42 PM.png

     

    The good news is that there is on going external drive access.  The program defaulted to reconstructing the library two here: Rebuilt library located at /Volumes/Buffalo 1/iPhoto Library (rebuilt).photolibrary.  Would have preferred it put it outside there but on the external drive.

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 11, 2015 11:01 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 11, 2015 11:01 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    Suddenly it finished stating that 41,960 photos were scavenged.  Why scavenged instead of recovered ?

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-11 at 10.54.03 PM.png

     

    The original Picture folder (not the iPhoto Library alone) was 142.31  GB with 32,273 photos, and the iPhoto Library was 28.42 GB

  • by NeedSupportHelp,

    NeedSupportHelp NeedSupportHelp Jun 12, 2015 2:11 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp
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    Jun 12, 2015 2:11 PM in response to NeedSupportHelp

    It's been working on FACES for about 8 hours.  Is this normal ?   There's no picture count yet. 

     

    Now, how to direct iPhoto to this new Library?  Can the reconstructed Library be relocated if desired, that is, pulled pout of the Picture folder?

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