henrikvon

Q: Problems with set up of two Airport Express (1st gen) for audio

Hello,

I've got two 1st gen Airport Express units that I want to set up so that I can play music in two different rooms. The modem/router is an Actiontec GT784WN (I know, it's pretty poor modem). I had one Airport Express (call it Unit 1) set up just fine. I powered off Unit 1, did a hard reset on Unit 2 and plugged Unit 2 into the ethernet on the router. I configured Unit 2 successfully and unplugged it. I then unplugged Unit 2, plugged in Unit 1 and went into the other room and plugged in Unit 2. At this point, everything goes south. The internet slows or stops, and computers/phones in the house have trouble connecting to the network. When I unplug Unit 2, and restart the router everything goes back to being ok, with the internet and Unit 1 working fine.

Am I experiencing an IP address issue? Every device in the house is an Apple product.

Unfortunately the router doesn't support DHCP reservations or else I'd just assign IP addresses to all of the MAC addresses of the devices in the house, and I'm thinking that would solve the problem....

It's not worth it for me to spend the $$$ to get a new router, but I'd like to get the two Airport Express units set up with functioning internet.

Any advice?

Thanks

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012), iOS 8.3

Posted on Jun 22, 2015 3:44 PM

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  • by Tesserax,Helpful

    Tesserax Tesserax Jun 23, 2015 9:19 AM in response to henrikvon
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    Jun 23, 2015 9:19 AM in response to henrikvon

    Just to make sure I understand,

    • After competing the set up of both units, they will both be connected wirelessly to the Actiontec gateway ... correct?
    • Both base stations are configured as a wireless client for the purpose of streaming ... correct?
    • By "1st gen" do you mean first generation 802.11g or 801.11n devices?

     

    Since your gateway doesn't support DHCP reservations, it still should support a DHCP range. I would suggest that you configure each of the base stations with a local static IP address just outside of that range so that each will have a unique IP address ... and should be easier to locate on your local network.

  • by henrikvon,

    henrikvon henrikvon Jun 23, 2015 9:47 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Jun 23, 2015 9:47 AM in response to Tesserax

    Thanks Tesserax,

    • Yes, both units are connecting wirelessly to the Actiontec network. After resetting them, I initially connect them via ethernet to configure them and then restart everything with the Airports unplugged from the ethernet connection.
    • Both are configured as a wireless client
    • Do the 802.11g and the 801.11n look identical, or are they a different external design? I'll have to check the units when I get home to see. Both the units I have use the same older body style. I'll update this thread when I figure out the specific models I'm dealing with.

     

    I'm pretty inexperienced with networking. I know there is a DHCP range and IP addresses are automatically assigned within this range as devices join the network. I can see this range on the router configuration. Are you saying that it is possible to assign static IP addresses outside of this range on individual devices and the network will still function? For some reason I thought that if I, for example, set a static IP on my desktop outside the DHCP range there would be problems. I am wrong about this?

    I'll check the DHCP range that is currently set up on the router. If I can adjust it, or it doesn't cover .1 to .254 I'll try assigning static IP addresses outside of the DHCP range on the Airport Express units, and on the desktop computers in the house to see if that helps.

    Thanks!

  • by Tesserax,Solvedanswer

    Tesserax Tesserax Jun 23, 2015 9:52 AM in response to henrikvon
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    Jun 23, 2015 9:52 AM in response to henrikvon
    • Do the 802.11g and the 801.11n look identical, or are they a different external design?

    Yes, unfortunately, both look nearly identical from the outside. However, they have different model numbers. The 802.11g unit is: A1084 or A1088. The 1st gen 802.11n are: A1264

    Are you saying that it is possible to assign static IP addresses outside of this range on individual devices and the network will still function?

    Yes. Typically, non-Apple routers use a range of something like: 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.100. You should be able to verify this via the router's web-based administrator interface. You can then configure each base station with an IP address above this. However, do not use 192.168.0.255 as this is a reserved address. So, for example, configure one for: 192.168.0.200 and the other for 192.168.0.201.

     

    You can configure the base stations for a static IP by using the AirPort Utility, as follows:

    • Run the AirPort Utility.
    • Select either of your AirPort Express base stations.
    • Select Edit.
    • Select the Internet tab.
    • Change Connect Using to: Static
    • Enter the desired static IP address in the IPv4 Address field.
    • Subnet Mask should be: 255.255.255.0
    • Router Address should be: 192.168.0.1 (or whatever your router's LAN-side IP address is)
    • DNS Servers should be the ones provided by your ISP or the appropriate DNS servers if you are using Google or OpenDNS, etc. instead.
    • You can leave the IPv6-related fields blank.
    • Select Update and allow the base station to restart.
    • Repeat the above steps for the other base station.

     

    In the example below, I used 192.168.1.250 for the static IP address and used the OpenDNS DNS server IP addresses.

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    For some reason I thought that if I, for example, set a static IP on my desktop outside the DHCP range there would be problems. I am wrong about this?

    Yes. Again, just don't use N.N.N.255.

  • by henrikvon,

    henrikvon henrikvon Jun 23, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Jun 23, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Tesserax

    Awesome. thanks!

    I'll give it a shot when I get home and post the result.

  • by henrikvon,

    henrikvon henrikvon Jun 24, 2015 7:16 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Jun 24, 2015 7:16 AM in response to Tesserax

    I got the set up working great last night!

    Thanks so much for your help.