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Q: I can't transfer Apple Music to iPod Nano

I started Apple Music trial, and I added some songs to My Music library, when I connect my iPod Nano 7g and try to sync. It says that song was not copied to the iPod because it is a subscription item.

 

It is supposed that I can play them offline, right?

iPod nano, OS X Yosemite (10.10.4), null

Posted on Jul 1, 2015 2:00 PM

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  • by Rocket2016,

    Rocket2016 Rocket2016 Jul 16, 2015 7:37 AM in response to jsilvamo
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    Jul 16, 2015 7:37 AM in response to jsilvamo


    The new ipods were released today, but only the Touch supports Apple Music files.  No update for the Shuffle that would allow the Apple Music files to be uploaded with a new sort of subscription verification plan.

     

    We all understand that nothing is changed with the Nano or Shuffle if we don't switch to Apple Music, but I like Apple Music and was hoping to switch to it completely.  Since it's Apple's main music focus at this point, it was reasonable to think they would make it work on all their music playing devices.

     

    Running with a bulky iPhone is not for everyone.

  • by wytchdrlove,

    wytchdrlove wytchdrlove Jul 18, 2015 8:37 AM in response to jsilvamo
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    Jul 18, 2015 8:37 AM in response to jsilvamo

    The sad part is, that Apple can easily do this. Spotify has already been doing the offline play with their app for years. You just have to connect once every 30 days, so that it can verify your account. If your account has lapsed when you connect to check it does not allow them to be played offline. Apple could easily do the same thing with an app update so it knows to stop allowing those songs to be played after so much time if it is not connected to your iTunes.  So I will probably be returning my iPod Gen 7 to the store since I only got it for Apple Music. None of their employees notified me that it would not work, when I told them that is what I was getting for.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jul 18, 2015 8:55 AM in response to wytchdrlove
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    Jul 18, 2015 8:55 AM in response to wytchdrlove

    The employees probably did not know the limitation.

     

    One more issue on the older generation iPods is counting the number of plays so that royalties can be paid. You can set the Nano to manually manage your music in which case play counts are not transferred back to the computer when you sync. I suppose Apple could do updates on all past iPods, or iTunes to block manually managing music and disk mode but I doubt that is going to happen. Perhaps they are working on a separate app to sync subscription music to older iPods or a change to iTunes to allow it. Or not.

  • by Roy Tucker,

    Roy Tucker Roy Tucker Jul 18, 2015 8:59 AM in response to deggie
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    Jul 18, 2015 8:59 AM in response to deggie

    Slacker radio, you can download ALL stations, ALL playlists, ALL artists, ALL albums.  It requires you to update the downloaded music periodically.

     

    Apple has the smartest engineers in the world, so it's not a matter of them knowing how to do it.  They just didn't do it (yet).

  • by Steven Corbin,

    Steven Corbin Steven Corbin Jul 19, 2015 9:22 AM in response to hhgttg27
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    Jul 19, 2015 9:22 AM in response to hhgttg27

    That's definetly a pity. Spotify or deezer will use that missing feature hopefully by selling products soon. I am fed up to run with my heavy iphone.

  • by Karembou,

    Karembou Karembou Jul 19, 2015 9:27 AM in response to Steven Corbin
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    Jul 19, 2015 9:27 AM in response to Steven Corbin

    Can't wait for that to happen

  • by Chris89c,

    Chris89c Chris89c Jul 19, 2015 9:35 PM in response to jsilvamo
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    Jul 19, 2015 9:35 PM in response to jsilvamo

    the Zune is able to download DRM music with their music subscription. 

  • by papapineau,

    papapineau papapineau Jul 21, 2015 6:56 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Jul 21, 2015 6:56 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    I have the same problem with iPod 4, it can go on WiFi (unlike iPod Nano) but I can't transfer the music from apple music on it, so I think apple stop supporting devices very quickly, 2-4years and buy a new one..8¬(

  • by Karembou,

    Karembou Karembou Jul 21, 2015 7:12 AM in response to jsilvamo
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    Jul 21, 2015 7:12 AM in response to jsilvamo

    Been reading rumors that the software engineers that built the iPod nano are no longer working in Apple. Hard to believe but it might be possible since they hardly do any updates to the nano/shuffle.

     

    Keep thinking I wish I can build it myself to fool the providers that there is a WiFi installed.

  • by kmbro,

    kmbro kmbro Jul 23, 2015 8:29 PM in response to John Hall
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    Jul 23, 2015 8:29 PM in response to John Hall

    The argument about being able to load Aple Music onto a Nano and then cancel the subscription is specious. I could just as easily buy a 64Gb iPod touch, fill it with music, turn off wifi, then cancel my subscription and keep all the music. Or do the same with a Mac, loading hundreds of GB of music onto an external hard drive and never using it when I'm connected to the Internet.

     

    I like to take my Nano to the gym, the beach, out for a jog, anywhere I don't want anything as bulky and expensive as my iPhone, iPad or MacBook.  Why shouldn't I be able to?

     

    The whole point about Apple Music is finding new music, so most people will connect their Nano to iTunes regularly to freshen their music. This gives plenty of opportunity to implement short-lived DRM licenses that get freshended on reconnect, so Apple could protect the artists against offline hogs by making the license expire after a month or two. Of course, you'd then have the problem of people changing the date on their Nano.

     

    All in all, there are more people out there who'd use it properly, so why penalise them to protect against the minority who would abuse the system?   They're probably too busy ripping music off YouTube anyway!

  • by kmbro,

    kmbro kmbro Jul 23, 2015 8:39 PM in response to runsmart85
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    Jul 23, 2015 8:39 PM in response to runsmart85

    Spotify doesn't allow you to transfer "offline" music to a Nano. You can only transfer "purchased" and "ripped" music, same as with iTunes/Apple Music.

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 Jul 23, 2015 11:45 PM in response to kmbro
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    Jul 23, 2015 11:45 PM in response to kmbro

    kmbro wrote:

     

    I could just as easily buy a 64Gb iPod touch, fill it with music, turn off wifi, then cancel my subscription and keep all the music. Or do the same with a Mac, loading hundreds of GB of music onto an external hard drive and never using it when I'm connected to the Internet.

    I'd love to hear from someone who has tried this - obviously that can't happen for at least a couple of months yet. I would have thought that Apple would have implemented a method of dealing with that idea - they're not stupid.

  • by fnkdumplin,

    fnkdumplin fnkdumplin Jul 27, 2015 5:47 AM in response to jsilvamo
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    Jul 27, 2015 5:47 AM in response to jsilvamo

    In 10 years of owning Apple products, I've never been as dumbfounded as I am right now.  I literally don't know what to do next.  Do I cancel the Apple Music subscription?

     

    I need the Nano for workouts.  If I stay with Apple Music, I'll never be able to put any new music on my Nano again (unless they upgrade later)...?

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 Jul 27, 2015 6:37 AM in response to fnkdumplin
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    Jul 27, 2015 6:37 AM in response to fnkdumplin

    You can still put purchased or ripped tracks on the Nano as before. You just can't put rented music on it for reasons we've discussed.

  • by kmbro,

    kmbro kmbro Jul 27, 2015 7:37 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Jul 27, 2015 7:37 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    If Apple have implemented a mechanism to time-limit DRM licenses for music installed on a wifi-capable iPod, why can't they use exactly the same mechanism to time-limit DRM licenses on an iPod that is not wifi-capable?

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