Q: Does anyone else HATE the new Photos "upgrade"?

I do hope that you enjoy your weekend.

My anger started when I had to photograph 24 decorated glass bowls, for a brochure.  As no editing was necessary, all I had to do was export, pick the best shots and put them in a file for emailing to printer. This activity usually takes me about an hour. (All work from photographing to emailing file). Well not with Photo, because when I exported all the photos they were 72 resolution and 64" X 48" in size.  This meant opening each picture in Photoshop CS-6 and converting it to 300 dpi, 4"X6" in size.  This doubled my time for the whole project and cost me money.  In iPhoto I could select the resolution and size in the exporting window.

I have checked out the next upgrade, OX El Capitan, and they do not mention any changes in the editing process.

So…. who knows?

I don't know what you mean?????

Hate is such a strong word, isn't it?

Pete

So. I'm confused? Why aren't you still using iPhoto instead of Photos, then? As has been posted, if you were using iPhoto before you upgraded to Yosemite, you can still use it. I'm still using iPhoto, Aperture, as well as playing around with Photos.

I totally understand your frustration at having to do twice as much work to attain the same results, but really am not understanding why you would have to have done that to start with? Why not continue to use iPhoto to process your work at the pace you need, and then play around with Photos when you have the time or inclination to see if it can accommodate your needs ultimately?

Best of luck,

GB

Dulany Lingo wrote:

 

My anger started when I had to photograph 24 decorated glass bowls, for a brochure.  As no editing was necessary, all I had to do was export, pick the best shots and put them in a file for emailing to printer. This activity usually takes me about an hour. (All work from photographing to emailing file). Well not with Photo, because when I exported all the photos they were 72 resolution and 64" X 48" in size.  This meant opening each picture in Photoshop CS-6 and converting it to 300 dpi, 4"X6" in size.  This doubled my time for the whole project and cost me money.  In iPhoto I could select the resolution and size in the exporting window.

??? Neither iPhoto nor Photos allows you to change the dpi of a photo, & both export using a nominal 72 dpi setting. Also, both have the same resizing options for exporting JPEG files, including a "Custom" setting that allows you to set the maximum width, height, or dimension of the export in pixels.

Regarding resolution, dpi, & print size, you may find it useful to refer to The Myth of DPI, which explains why dpi is not a measure of resolution & why the five byte dpi header in a photo is rarely if ever the actual dpi of a printed photo.

iPhoto and Photos have exactly the same expire options, albeit laid out slightly differently. There was no need for you to change the "resolution" it would have changed the minute the printer put it into a 6" x 4" format.

I do feel like a prisoner of Apple though and wonder why I can't trash an app. that I don't care for

You are not a "prisoner" of Apple. You can very simply choose to buy another make of computer for a start. There are many apps on your Mac that you cannot delete as they are hard-wired to the OS. As in the case of all of those, it's the same: ignore the ones you don't want. That's actual and real consumer choice, right there.

Photoshop has also become a complete bully

No it hasn't. It's an app just like it always was. If you don;t like it, use another one.

Be empowered. If something doesn't work the way you want it. change to something that does.

My anger started when I had to photograph 24 decorated glass bowls, for a brochure.  As no editing was necessary, all I had to do was export, pick the best shots and put them in a file for emailing to printer. This activity usually takes me about an hour. (All work from photographing to emailing file). Well not with Photo, because when I exported all the photos they were 72 resolution and 64" X 48" in size.

Since no camera takes pictures with the 4 x 6 aspect ratio you would have had to crop the images whether you used Photos or not. All Photos does is display the image at screen resolution, ~72 dpi, so it changes the dpi to 72 and the print size increases accordingly.  If you cropped the images in Photos to 4 x 6 you could have exported them as such and sent the cropped image without any PS editing required. They would print up at 4 x 6 at 300 dpi.

AT this point I say UNCLE!  I have been using a Mac since 1984 and I guess I just don't like so many changes. Every time I turn around there is an upgrade for my OS and then I have to upgrade other programs and on and on and on.  Again UNCLE.  Please no further negative replies.  Thanks, Dulany

Dulany Lingo wrote:

 

  Please no further negative replies.  Thanks, Dulany

Then what do you want?

If we tell you the truth you think it is negative. Why not tell us what it is you want us to say, just write out the answer you want and I'll post it for you.

Again, my reply was neither judgmental nor negative. I was asking if you had considered continuing to use iPhoto and learn photos as your feel inclined to do so. Have you considered not saying "Uncle" at all, but rather looking at the alternatives available (including doing exactly what you were doing before)?

Cheers,

GB

Dulany Lingo wrote:

 

My anger started when I had to photograph 24 decorated glass bowls, for a brochure.  As no editing was necessary, all I had to do was export, pick the best shots and put them in a file for emailing to printer. This activity usually takes me about an hour. (All work from photographing to emailing file). Well not with Photo, because when I exported all the photos they were 72 resolution and 64" X 48" in size.  This meant opening each picture in Photoshop CS-6 and converting it to 300 dpi, 4"X6" in size.  This doubled my time for the whole project and cost me money.  In iPhoto I could select the resolution and size in the exporting window.

 

I have checked out the next upgrade, OX El Capitan, and they do not mention any changes in the editing process.

 

So…. who knows?

This has not ever changes in iphoto or Photos - since the first version of iPhoto that has been the case - and your reaction only indicates that you have no concept of what DPI is - it is not a setting - it is a calculation of Dots (pixels) divided by inches

No matter what the DPI setting if you print the image as a 4x6 or 8x10 or what ever the actual DPI of the print is the result of doing the math - not of any setting

LN

Dulany Lingo wrote:

AT this point I say UNCLE!  I have been using a Mac since 1984 and I guess I just don't like so many changes.

The thing is, there has been no change in the way the export dpi setting is handled since iPhoto was first released many years ago. Photos handles this exactly like iPhoto always has. Whatever you were doing to export photos from iPhoto should work exactly the same if you do it from Photos.

If it does not, there may be something we can help you with so that it will, but to do that you will have to explain more about what you have been doing hat might make the two apps behave differently.

I forgot to add this link to a webpage that describes dpi nicely: The Myth of DPI.