Master26A

Q: Does Yosemite Improve or Reduce Performance?

Hi there,

 

I'm a user of a Macbook Pro 15 Retina from 2013, and I'm considering upgrading to Yosemite. Although I do want to upgrade for the new look and features, I do have one major reservation. If Yosemite is going to make my computer less responsive, laggy ect. then I'm going to hugely regret the decision. For me Mavericks is a great OS, and so a performance hit would seriously put me off. Can anyone share some experience they've had with the full version please?

 

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Posted on Oct 17, 2014 5:48 AM

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  • by Zanaelf,

    Zanaelf Zanaelf Jul 27, 2015 9:05 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 27, 2015 9:05 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    Very well, if it is designed that way, but I just wonder how it would handle other RAM intensive programs that someone one may wish to run in it. My description of my own analysis and experience with the GUI design of the OS is about the OS, since I am not the only one that feels their cognitive interactions are effected by its design, which is the case of all OS's that follow the fashion of flat design, and Yosemite falls into the category of flat design, though its not as bad as the other OS's that use the concepts.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jul 27, 2015 9:11 PM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 27, 2015 9:11 PM in response to Zanaelf

    Which other OSs specifically?

     

    Pete

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 28, 2015 1:01 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 1:01 AM in response to Zanaelf

    Very well. The memory management system was redesigned for Yosemite, that's why the comparisons are meaningless. It's actually more efficient than earlier OSes. I have no problem with your description and your perceptions. You're perfectly entitled to them, but when you extrapolate from those subjective impressions to make idiotic statements like one should never upgrade past the OS the Mac shipped with - and I note that you provide no support for that - that I query you, for the sake of others who might read this stuff.

  • by DavJam,

    DavJam DavJam Jul 28, 2015 1:41 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 28, 2015 1:41 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    This discussion looks as though it will run forever.

     

    I am not a computer guru, but I have used computers at home and work since 1976, so I have had some experience in using them.  My conclusions (which applicable to all computers) are:

     

    1. Computers tend to be designed "ahead" of the software - but that I mean it take time for the software to use the capacity of the machine to run optimally.

    2. As a result of item 1 there is a time when updating degrades the performance and you must stop upgrading.

    3. Manufacturers (Apple included) have a vested interest in upgrading systems to earn money - hence the endless addition of bells and whistles.  This is the world we live in.

    4. The GUI (Graphic User Interface) must before all else provide an efficient way of the user getting on with the task in hand (I speak here professionally as a retired architect).  Windows has always been quite good at this, Apple less so.  Personally (and I don't think I am alone in this) the separation of the tool bar from the application window is inefficient.  The extra miles the mouse must travel could power several cities :-)

     

    Finally, Yosemite does load slower than the previous OS, probably because there are more bells and whistles.

     

    That is my humble opinion - I also think the Apple product (hard or soft ware) is extremely visually appealing!

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 28, 2015 2:15 AM in response to DavJam
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    Jul 28, 2015 2:15 AM in response to DavJam
    Windows has always been quite good at this, Apple less so.  Personally (and I don't think I am alone in this) the separation of the tool bar from the application window is inefficient.  The extra miles the mouse must travel could power several cities :-)

     

    The theory about having the independent menu bar is that the commands are always in the same place, and therefore muscle memory will get you there. When they are attached to a window then they move with the window, and so require to be selected visually. The fact that most people seem to use windows in a full screen mode means that they effectively have figured that out that muscle memory is more efficient... But there is a lot of personal preference in this.

  • by Zanaelf,

    Zanaelf Zanaelf Jul 28, 2015 4:59 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 28, 2015 4:59 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Well i certainly would prefer not to use a RAM excessive program on it, if the system has used it all up , in the way it had been designed.  I don't think its more efficient  , as much as you disagree with me, I disagree with you. I said I recommend one keep their factory OS , not should, and this is depending on if you are an artist and your apps fail to work after an update or they do the task slower than usual. Upgrading is fine if all you do on your macbook/mac is browse the web  touch up photos and not even edit them , garageband , and doing office work.  If one is very specific about their machine and their ability to do their artwork , then I would recommend something.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 28, 2015 5:05 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 5:05 AM in response to Zanaelf

    Zanaelf wrote:

     

    Very well, if it is designed that way, but I just wonder how it would handle other RAM intensive programs that someone one may wish to run in it. My description of my own analysis and experience with the GUI design of the OS is about the OS, since I am not the only one that feels their cognitive interactions are effected by its design, which is the case of all OS's that follow the fashion of flat design, and Yosemite falls into the category of flat design, though its not as bad as the other OS's that use the concepts.

    Thank you for your opinion, it has been filed with all the other opinions. It may be retrieved by requesting Opinion # A666G941-77-GG5

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Jul 28, 2015 5:23 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 5:23 AM in response to Zanaelf

    Zanaelf wrote:

     

    if the system has used it all up ,

    The system hasn't "used it all up"

    It has put all available RAM to good use.

    There re are plenty of articles on the web describing how it works. You should read up on them. Otherwise, it is just a boogeyman you refuse to come to grips with.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 28, 2015 6:16 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 6:16 AM in response to Zanaelf
    I said I recommend one keep their factory OS

     

    No you did not. What you said was:

     

    It is recommended to keep the same OS it came as factory default with only updating with the minor update

     

    Using the passive voice removes the subjective claptrap and tries to make it sound authoritative.

     

    Well i certainly would prefer not to use a RAM excessive program on it, if the system has used it all up , in the way it had been designed.  I don't think its more efficient  ,

     

    And as i keep saying, that's why your commentary is useless. You're working on the assumption that memory management is the same in Yosemite as it is in Mavericks. It's not. It's profoundly different. That's why the comparison is meaningless. That's why what you say is ill-informed.

     

      If one is very specific about their machine and their ability to do their artwork , then I would recommend something.

     

    Yes, and I would suggest that you start by learning before issuing advice.

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex Jul 28, 2015 8:44 AM in response to Master26A
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    Jul 28, 2015 8:44 AM in response to Master26A

    I agree with Clinton: Yosemite is faster than all others before and much better than even Mavericks (I mean the 10.10.4 version).

    Naturally there are a small number of users that have issues, mostly because not all external software is exactly compatible, or because you have to carefully check all your email settings in Mail. I use Lightroom6, a good example that proves the foregoing.

    Lex

  • by Zanaelf,

    Zanaelf Zanaelf Jul 28, 2015 4:35 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 28, 2015 4:35 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    I am sorry , but you are not making any sense for me to understand in regards that I gave a recommendation, as if you trying to to paint me with a bad brush.

     

     

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 28, 2015 3:10 PM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 3:10 PM in response to Zanaelf

    Not having used Yosemite yourself you are not qualified to talk about how it runs, not understanding how Yosemite works just makes that worse.

  • by Zanaelf,

    Zanaelf Zanaelf Jul 28, 2015 3:17 PM in response to Csound1
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    Jul 28, 2015 3:17 PM in response to Csound1

    It does not have to be on my own personal Mac to be qualified in having used it.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 28, 2015 3:25 PM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 28, 2015 3:25 PM in response to Zanaelf

    Whatever.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 29, 2015 12:03 AM in response to Zanaelf
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    Jul 29, 2015 12:03 AM in response to Zanaelf

    Regardless of where you've experienced the OS, you need to understand it before offering "advice". Plainly, you don't.

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