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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Lazy Leopard,

    Lazy Leopard Lazy Leopard Aug 10, 2015 12:35 AM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 10, 2015 12:35 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

    The iPhoto library is not changed, or deleted. You can continue to use iPhoto as ever, no 'reversal' required.

    After an update performed by the AppStore Photos had replaced iPhoto as the application that started automatically when a camera card was inserted, and become the application to which Mail exported photos. That makes it rather difficult to continue using iPhoto without performing quite a bit of reversal.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Aug 10, 2015 12:47 AM in response to Lazy Leopard
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    Aug 10, 2015 12:47 AM in response to Lazy Leopard

    Sure. Quitting one app and launching another is so difficult.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Aug 10, 2015 1:40 AM in response to Lazy Leopard
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    Aug 10, 2015 1:40 AM in response to Lazy Leopard

    Lazy Leopard wrote:


    One day iPhoto was doing the task. The next Photos had taken it over, without explanation.

    Without explanation? Do you ever read release notes before agreeing to downloading AND installing updates? Or do you just click agree and hope nothing changes. Photos was advertised many many months before being implemented in the latest update. Your failure to read is your own fault.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 10, 2015 7:11 AM in response to Lazy Leopard
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    Aug 10, 2015 7:11 AM in response to Lazy Leopard

    Lazy Leopard wrote:

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    It would not have converted automatically without you clicking OK.

    The Photos app was inserted and made to take over the photo import process from iPhoto without any clear "Ok" when an update happened. One day iPhoto was doing the task. The next Photos had taken it over, without explanation.

    So why don't you switch it back?

     

    And what does that have to do with 'converting' the library (hint: there is no conversion, the library stays the same)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 10, 2015 7:18 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Aug 10, 2015 7:18 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Terence Devlin wrote:

     

    Sure. Quitting one app and launching another is so difficult.

    That's what I would have thought, but it seems maybe not.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Aug 10, 2015 10:17 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Aug 10, 2015 10:17 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Terence Devlin wrote:

     

    Sure. Quitting one app and launching another is so difficult.

    Unless you are self proclaimed "Lazy" - sound like they made an excellent choice of names

     

    LN

  • by E Sheard,

    E Sheard E Sheard Aug 11, 2015 11:18 AM in response to cat320
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    Aug 11, 2015 11:18 AM in response to cat320

    You could also import into Photos with the "Delete items after import" check box UNCHECKED.  Then after importing into Photos open iPhotos and import.  Then when asked "Delete Photo on Your iPhone?" click the appropriate button.

     

    First Import into Photos

    Screen Shot 2015-08-11 at 1.15.39 PM.jpg

     

    Second Import into iPhotos

    Screen Shot 2015-08-11 at 1.12.33 PM.jpg

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Aug 11, 2015 12:26 PM in response to E Sheard
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    Aug 11, 2015 12:26 PM in response to E Sheard

    What, apart from corrupting the Photos library, would that achieve?

  • by simonj_1,

    simonj_1 simonj_1 Aug 19, 2015 8:38 AM in response to mystwillow
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    Aug 19, 2015 8:38 AM in response to mystwillow

    I just imported my migrated Photos library back into iPhoto.

     

    And now I have my library back in iPhoto.

     

    Does that solve your issue?

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Aug 19, 2015 10:46 AM in response to simonj_1
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    Aug 19, 2015 10:46 AM in response to simonj_1

    simonj_1 wrote:

     

    I just imported my migrated Photos library back into iPhoto.

     

    And now I have my library back in iPhoto.

     

    Does that solve your issue?

    You must NEVER import a library - it does not work and creates a massive mess

     

    LN

  • by dkeenley,

    dkeenley dkeenley Aug 20, 2015 8:16 PM in response to Chuckles84
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    Aug 20, 2015 8:16 PM in response to Chuckles84

    This is just like when they changed iTunes!

    Why mess with it if it works?

    Ugg

     

    If I delete the photos.library.photolibrary

    before I open the new iphoto

    will that mess things up?

     

    I have not hit the continue or OK button when I first launch iphoto....what is the easiest way to get back to the original iphoto?

     

    Thanks!

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Aug 20, 2015 11:58 PM in response to dkeenley
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    Aug 20, 2015 11:58 PM in response to dkeenley

    What 'Okay' button is that?

  • by MacsSince1984,

    MacsSince1984 MacsSince1984 Aug 21, 2015 12:07 PM in response to Kappy
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    Aug 21, 2015 12:07 PM in response to Kappy

    With all due respect,

    Kappy wrote:

     

    I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

     

    Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

     

    This is all you should have posted. It helps to just get to the point.

     

    Yes, you delete any Photos library you want. If you want to use iPhoto and its library then so be it. Keep in mind that if you did not make a backup of your iPhoto Library before it was imported into Photos, then the library you still have needs Photos even if you use iPhoto. The migrated iPhotos Library can only be used with the data already there. You cannot add to or change existing photos.

    With all due respect, I think you are the one who has missed the point. The above comment is not merely a request for advice as to how to try to minimize the damage caused by replacing iPhoto with Photos. It is a detailed description of the deficiencies of Photos when compared to iPhoto, and of how it destroys years of prior work and effort of many Mac users if and when forced to switch. Losing functions going forward in new pictures taken is bad enough, but taking existing function and organization out of past work is inexcusable. Heavy long time users of iPhotos need to be warned in advance, and that comment was an effective warning!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 21, 2015 12:10 PM in response to MacsSince1984
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    Aug 21, 2015 12:10 PM in response to MacsSince1984

    This is a tech support forum, do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant. You may send your opinion on Photo's 'deficiencies to Apple at this link. Apple.com/feedback

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Aug 21, 2015 3:37 PM in response to MacsSince1984
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    Aug 21, 2015 3:37 PM in response to MacsSince1984

    Nathan Silverman wrote:

     

    With all due respect,

    Kappy wrote:

     

    I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

     

    Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

     

    This is all you should have posted. It helps to just get to the point.

     

    Yes, you delete any Photos library you want. If you want to use iPhoto and its library then so be it. Keep in mind that if you did not make a backup of your iPhoto Library before it was imported into Photos, then the library you still have needs Photos even if you use iPhoto. The migrated iPhotos Library can only be used with the data already there. You cannot add to or change existing photos.

    With all due respect, I think you are the one who has missed the point. The above comment is not merely a request for advice as to how to try to minimize the damage caused by replacing iPhoto with Photos. It is a detailed description of the deficiencies of Photos when compared to iPhoto, and of how it destroys years of prior work and effort of many Mac users if and when forced to switch. Losing functions going forward in new pictures taken is bad enough, but taking existing function and organization out of past work is inexcusable. Heavy long time users of iPhotos need to be warned in advance, and that comment was an effective warning!

    Have you considered that Photos may be a far better product than iPhoto given time? Look back on these forums of the opinion of iPhotos when it was first released. I would rather think that Photos will be far superior to iPhoto when iPhotos no longer is supported on future OSXs. But then again, some are still screaming for the return of Claris and AppleWorks as well as Scroll Bar Arrows. Society today seems to demand perfection on a first release of software, something I have never seen in Apple or Microsoft or anything from a third party developer.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

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