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Q: Since upgrading to Yosemite Time Machine no longer notifies me to back up. I have called Apple innumerable times on this issue and have sent them data from my computer that they asked for. That was at least 6-8 months ago. Still no fix.

Greetings

 

I have been a loyal Apple user since 1985 and I have to say that most of the time Apple does a knock down job addressing issues. This time however I think someone has dropped the ball. Since upgrading to yosemite Time Machine no longer reminds me to back up and although I have contacted Apple many many times about this issue and a promise of a solution is given still since Yosemites release Time Machine does not remind me of back ups. It also is the same for my brother and friend who both have macs running Yosemite? Are you every going to address/fix this issue Apple? Usually you are great about these things so I cannot complain. I love Yosemite and my iMac but I hope you fix it soon. Does the 10.10.5 update address that? Thanks

Posted on Aug 21, 2015 2:13 PM

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Aug 21, 2015 2:17 PM in response to poetman
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:17 PM in response to poetman

    Time Machine backs up automatically each hour. There is no need for a notification.

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 21, 2015 2:26 PM in response to Kappy
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:26 PM in response to Kappy

    Hi Kappy

     

    Thanks for your reply. Yes, that is true if you always have it connected but for years after I run a back up I remove it to another location because if my computer is stolen or I have a fire I will still have a full system back up that I can restore. Time Machine about every 2-3 weeks Kappy when my external drive was disconnected (stored elsewhere) would remind me automatically to back up. Once I upgraded to Yosemite it no longer does this even though Apple says it is still supposed to. Thanks

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Aug 21, 2015 2:48 PM in response to poetman
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:48 PM in response to poetman

    Might I suggest rethinking your backup strategy. You can use a free utility like TimeMachineEditor 4.2.1 to configure a different backup time period. Get a second drive equal in size to your Time Machine drive. Periodically, like once per week or per month, use Disk Utility to make a clone of the Time Machine drive to this second drive. Then store the clone in your "safe location." If that isn't off-premises, then get a fire-proof safe for storage.

     

    You can never have too many backups.

     

    Clone using Restore Option of Disk Utility

     

      1. Open Disk Utility in the Utilities folder.

      2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.

      3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.

      4. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag

           it to the Destination entry field.

      5. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to

          the Source entry field.

      6. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.

     

    Destination means the second backup drive. Source means the Time Machine backup drive.

     

    I would go one step further. Use a third drive to make a bootable clone of your computer's startup drive. Then use third-party backup software to make incremental updates to that clone.

     

    Clone Yosemite, Mavericks, Lion/Mountain Lion using Restore Option of Disk Utility

     

    Boot to the Recovery HD:

     

    Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.

     

         1. Select Disk Utility from the main menu then press the Continue

             button.

         2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.

         3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.

         4. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it

             to the Destination entry field.

         5. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to

             the Source entry field.

         6. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.

     

    Destination means the external backup drive. Source means the internal startup drive.


    Suggested Backup Software

     

      1. Carbon Copy Cloner

      2. Get Backup

      3. Deja Vu

      4. SuperDuper!

      5. Synk Pro

      6. Tri-Backup

     

    Others may be found at MacUpdate.

     

    Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore.  Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files.


  • by Eau Rouge,

    Eau Rouge Eau Rouge Aug 21, 2015 4:39 PM in response to poetman
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    Aug 21, 2015 4:39 PM in response to poetman

    you do realise that you are not speaking to anyone from Apple here.

     

    and do you really need to be reminded to backup.

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 21, 2015 5:15 PM in response to Eau Rouge
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    Aug 21, 2015 5:15 PM in response to Eau Rouge

    Greetings Eau

     

    Thanks for your reply. Sure i realize I am not speaking to anyone from Apple but there are a lot of savvy people out there like the post just before yours. To answer you last question yes, I do need to be reminded to back up. Unfortunately my memory is not as sharp as it used to be. I don't like to think of it as old age just maturing.  Your mind must still be pretty sharp but get to my age and being in a lot of pain and forgetting is commonplace! LOL Take care:O)

  • by Eau Rouge,

    Eau Rouge Eau Rouge Aug 21, 2015 6:04 PM in response to poetman
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    Aug 21, 2015 6:04 PM in response to poetman

    you could set up an Alert in Calendar or Reminders, set it to repeat once a week perhaps

     

    i am forgetful to.

     

    good luck

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 21, 2015 11:55 PM in response to Eau Rouge
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    Aug 21, 2015 11:55 PM in response to Eau Rouge

    Simple and great idea Eau. Also, I appreciate your humility as most of us do forget from time to time. Some more some less. Again thanks, Neil

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 22, 2015 12:19 AM in response to Kappy
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    Aug 22, 2015 12:19 AM in response to Kappy

    Hi Kappy

     

    You are most ki I can tell you are a wiz when it comes to computers. You suggestions are foolproof and excellent. The only problem i am faced with is that I am on a fixed income so I really can't go out and buy new drives. Possibly one in the future. Question for you. I thought I could restore my whole system from the external drive running time Machine if something happened to my computer. Am i right on that or am I wrong. Also, I want to keep it as simple as possible.

    Thanks so much, Neil

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Aug 22, 2015 11:49 AM in response to poetman
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    Aug 22, 2015 11:49 AM in response to poetman

    You are correct as long as you didn't exclude anything from the backup.

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 22, 2015 2:57 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Aug 22, 2015 2:57 PM in response to Eric Root

    Thanks Eric,

     

    I thought so but had to be sure. Thanks. Neil

  • by notcloudy,

    notcloudy notcloudy Aug 22, 2015 3:07 PM in response to poetman
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    Aug 22, 2015 3:07 PM in response to poetman

    poetman wrote:

     

    Hi Kappy

     

    Thanks for your reply. Yes, that is true if you always have it connected but for years after I run a back up I remove it to another location because if my computer is stolen or I have a fire I will still have a full system back up that I can restore. Time Machine about every 2-3 weeks Kappy when my external drive was disconnected (stored elsewhere) would remind me automatically to back up. Once I upgraded to Yosemite it no longer does this even though Apple says it is still supposed to. Thanks

    As I understand it Yosemite will create time machine backups (what changed) on your hard drive when your time machine drive is not connected - and when you connect it it will transfer them to the backup about the only time it would possibly warn you is if the hard drive is getting full. 

     

    One option for you would be to either backup your User Library or your full system once a week.  I have time machine on one drive - and I have a WD passport that will currently fit 3 backups of my User Library -- pictures etc.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Aug 23, 2015 3:29 PM in response to notcloudy
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    Aug 23, 2015 3:29 PM in response to notcloudy

    The local snapshot are only for portables.

     

    Local Snapshots on Portable Macs

  • by notcloudy,

    notcloudy notcloudy Aug 24, 2015 4:49 AM in response to Eric Root
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    Aug 24, 2015 4:49 AM in response to Eric Root

    Eric Root wrote:

     

    The local snapshot are only for portables.

     

    Local Snapshots on Portable Macs

    From Apples on-line documentation

     

    Local snapshots complement regular Time Machine backups that are stored on your external disk or Time Capsule by creating a local backup on your startup disk when your normal backup drive is not available. This provides you with a "safety net" for times when you might be away from your external backup disk or Time Capsule but accidentally delete a file. When your normal backup is available again, Time Machine copies the local snapshot contents from your startup disk to your normal backup drive.

     

    On Mac notebook computers, local snapshots are automatically enabled when you turn on Time Machine.A single daily snapshot is saved for every 24 hours, counting from the time you start or restart your computer. Similarly, a single weekly snapshot is saved for one week. If you want Time Machine to stop saving local snapshots, open Time Machine preferences and slide the switch to Off. Snapshots resume when you turn Time Machine back on.

    Note: The Time Machine status in the menu bar does not change when a local snapshot is created or modified.

  • by poetman,

    poetman poetman Aug 24, 2015 11:24 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Aug 24, 2015 11:24 PM in response to Eric Root

    Thanks Eric

     

    For all you input here. It has truly helped me know what pertains to me and the issue I am having. Again thanks a lot. Neil

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