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Q: mac mail Yosemite bobbles apostrophe?

This is a small but constant annoyance. After upgrading to Yosemite, Mac Mail does an odd thing with apostrophes. For example, if I type "doesn't" it looks fine until I hit the space bar for the next word. Then some kind of auto-formatting happens. The apostrophe spacing changes, and the space after the word disappears, so the next word is not separated. So I get "doesn'twork" instead of "doesn't work."

 

Can I just turn off the auto formatting?

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Oct 28, 2014 10:47 AM

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  • by Jp Cooper,

    Jp Cooper Jp Cooper Mar 12, 2015 7:49 AM in response to CroMagnum
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    Mar 12, 2015 7:49 AM in response to CroMagnum

    Got that disabled.  It's still frakking doing it.

  • by St Sas,

    St Sas St Sas Mar 19, 2015 1:40 AM in response to Jp Cooper
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    Mar 19, 2015 1:40 AM in response to Jp Cooper

    Checking off smart quotes did it for me. Thanks for finding this out. It was driving me mad.

  • by louismac,

    louismac louismac Aug 28, 2015 4:33 AM in response to jgoshawk
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    Aug 28, 2015 4:33 AM in response to jgoshawk

    After upgrading to Yosemite 10.10.5 (from Snow Leopard, using a Mac Pro 2009), I found Mac Mail almost unusable, because, especially when editing previously written text, the insertion point was displaced by several characters from the place  characters or deletions actually occurred. It was driving me completely crazy, to the point that I was having to compose texts in another application and paste them into Mail - ridiculous that this should occur with such an elemental application from Apple. In my case, it was not, as far as I could see, anything to do with apostophes in particular. I tried various remedies, including repairing permissions, turning off auto-correct, etc, all to no avail. When I observed the behaviour of the cursor, however, I noticed that there was a discrepancy between the width of the visible characters and the measure by which the cursor would advance, character-by-chartacter at the prompt of the right arrow key. So it looked like the cursor was taking its cue from some other font with different character widths. I then tried changing the message composing font (in mail preferences) from the default "Helvetica", to "Helvetica Neue". This seems to have done the trick. I conclude (guess) that the bug concerns Mail's activation of Apple system fonts, and may relate specifically to some confusion in the confusing world of Helveticas. I can't rule out the possibility that my font management software (Suitcase Fusion 6 - up-to-date for Yosemite), might possibly have a role in this, but Helvetica and Helvetica Neue are both Apple system fonts, which, as far as I know, SF leaves well alone, locked in permanent activation inside the nowadays more or less inaccessible System library. So my belief is that this is an Apple problem. LouisMac

  • by Tom Gewecke,

    Tom Gewecke Tom Gewecke Aug 28, 2015 4:52 AM in response to louismac
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    Aug 28, 2015 4:52 AM in response to louismac

    I don't think I have seen anyone else with your problem.  It's most likely that it is the result of something particular to your system, such as a non-Apple version of Helvetica (or a hacked font which kept Helvetica as a hidden internal name) which is taking over from the Apple version, or a glitch in the added font management app.

  • by jeffreyb,

    jeffreyb jeffreyb Feb 4, 2016 3:28 PM in response to louismac
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    Feb 4, 2016 3:28 PM in response to louismac

    Thank you, I've been trying to figure out my problem since so long. This is exactly the solution for me!

     

    THANK YOU!

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