Mario Aurelio

Q: Does iOS 9 require an SSID to be broadcasted in order to join a wireless network?  On previous versions of iOS I was able to connect to my home wireless network when hiding the broadcast of my SSID.

Does iOS 9 require an SSID to be broadcasted in order to join a wireless network?  On previous versions of iOS I was able to connect to my home wireless network when hiding the broadcast of my SSID.  Currently, I can only connect to my home network with iOS 9 if I'm broadcasting my SSID.  Also, I found an article on Apple Support from 9/11/2015 that "recommended" that the SSID be broadcasted, but it wasn't required.  Thanks.

Posted on Sep 16, 2015 6:44 PM

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  • by Mario Aurelio,

    Mario Aurelio Mario Aurelio Sep 18, 2015 5:12 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 18, 2015 5:12 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    UPDATE:  I just finished speaking with Eric, a senior support representative from Apple.  He was able to reproduce the same issue I have been encountering with iOS 9 and being unable to connect to a wireless network when the SSID isn't broadcasted.  He indicated he was going to escalate the issue to Engineering, and we should have a reply by Monday.  I'll update the thread accordingly...Thanks for all the suggestions & replies.

  • by Mario Aurelio,

    Mario Aurelio Mario Aurelio Sep 18, 2015 5:13 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 18, 2015 5:13 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    UPDATE:  I just finished speaking with Eric, a senior support representative from Apple.  He was able to reproduce the same issue I have been encountering with iOS 9 and being unable to connect to a wireless network when the SSID isn't broadcasted.  He indicated he was going to escalate the issue to Engineering, and we should have a reply by Monday.  I'll update the thread accordingly...Thanks for all the suggestions & replies.

  • by iFaqeer,

    iFaqeer iFaqeer Sep 18, 2015 7:42 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 18, 2015 7:42 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    Mario, Thanks for sharing this update. This at least confirms that we're not day dreaming . I also called Apple Support yesterday and reported the same issue. But you're several steps ahead of my ticket.

  • by wifiguru,

    wifiguru wifiguru Sep 18, 2015 10:50 PM in response to iFaqeer
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    Sep 18, 2015 10:50 PM in response to iFaqeer

    Do you guys have Mac Filtering enabled ? I have that Linksys 1900 AC router and with MAC Filtering enabled, I cannot connect to the Hidden network. But if I disable MAC Filtering, it connects fine even when its hidden.

  • by Mario Aurelio,

    Mario Aurelio Mario Aurelio Sep 20, 2015 8:02 AM in response to wifiguru
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    Sep 20, 2015 8:02 AM in response to wifiguru

    From Erik @ Apple Support:

    "After speaking with you, I started messing around a little with my network and router settings to see what I could do connect to a hidden network with my iPhone. I have a Airport Extreme router, and I restored it to factory settings and set up the network all over again as well as changing the WPA2 password from what it was before. After that was complete, I was successful in connecting to the hidden network with all of my devices including my iPhone 5s with iOS 9.

    Not sure this work around will work for you, but just a suggestion. In the meantime, I did send out the engineering request regarding this issue and the engineering team confirmed they received the request."

     

    Therefore, if you Reset your router it should address the issue with the SSID Hidden, and I believe it isn't necessary to change the password.  Although, there appears to be an additional issue with MAC Filtering enabled. 

     

    I was going to try Erik's suggestion, but as luck would have it my router (Cisco/Linksys E4200 V2) stopped working yesterday.  Therefore, I went to best buy and bought a Linksys EA 3500.  I installed the new router and it did connect with the SSID Hidden.

     

    After finalizing the configuration of the router I realized that if I enable MAC Filtering (which I have always utilized) I encounter the same message "Could not find the network." The moment I disable MAC Filtering, any device running iOS 9 automatically connects to the network.  Therefore, it appears devices running iOS 9 cannot connect to a network if MAC Filtering is enabled.


    This latest development was forwarded to Erik at Apple and I will post any updates when received.

  • by iFaqeer,

    iFaqeer iFaqeer Sep 21, 2015 1:11 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 21, 2015 1:11 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    Look like Apple TV is having the same issue as iPhone, not able to connect to a hidden SSID per

    https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/18979. Radar: 22774956

  • by celliott147,

    celliott147 celliott147 Sep 21, 2015 1:19 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 21, 2015 1:19 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    Interesting development. I will have to play with this when I get home. I have not had any issues, but I want to see what I can make happen. Pardon me while I let my nerd loose and say that this sounds like fun! (I'm weird and enjoy actually having to solve problems rather than pointing to something that can be Googled by anyone).

  • by iFaqeer,

    iFaqeer iFaqeer Sep 21, 2015 1:23 PM in response to celliott147
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    Sep 21, 2015 1:23 PM in response to celliott147

    First I don't have a Apple TV to try/test it out myself. Second, I've tested it at least 5-6 times with my iPhone 6 and I can say that it is broken in iOS 9. I also talked to Apple Support confirming this to be a "known" issue, with no way for me to confirm/deny their claim. So I take it at face value for now.

  • by celliott147,

    celliott147 celliott147 Sep 21, 2015 1:44 PM in response to iFaqeer
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    Sep 21, 2015 1:44 PM in response to iFaqeer

    I'm not looking to prove Apple Support or you wrong. I'm looking to see if I can find a solution that doesn't disable MAC filtering.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Sep 21, 2015 1:49 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 21, 2015 1:49 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

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  • by Mario Aurelio,

    Mario Aurelio Mario Aurelio Sep 23, 2015 4:48 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 23, 2015 4:48 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    From Erik @ Apple Support:

     

    "I have good news. Our engineers took note on many of the issues Customer’ such as yourself were experiencing with the iOS 9 update. As a result, they have worked diligently to put together iOS 9.0.1 to fix many of the issues you may have been experiencing. Please go ahead and update your devices and you should be pleased with the result."

     

    I upgraded both my devices (iPhone 5S & iPad Mini 2) to iOS 9.0.1.  Unfortunately, the issue with MAC Filtering being enabled on a network wasn't addressed.  I must confess I'm disappointed with Apple.  I understand that when a new OS is launched there will be issues.  Although, my expectation is that when upgrading to a new OS it should not be less secure.



     

  • by iFaqeer,

    iFaqeer iFaqeer Sep 23, 2015 5:36 PM in response to Mario Aurelio
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    Sep 23, 2015 5:36 PM in response to Mario Aurelio

    9.0.1 do not fix this Wi-Fi issue with SSID = Hidden and/or MAC Address Filtering enabled. Have tested already and went back to 8.4.1 for now. If anyone has a developer account with Apple (I don't have one), should consider filing a Radar Bug report for this issue to try get some better traction.

  • by FirstCylon,

    FirstCylon FirstCylon Sep 24, 2015 4:08 AM in response to wifiguru
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    Sep 24, 2015 4:08 AM in response to wifiguru

    After I disabled my MAC Filtering, I was able to connect to a hidden network.  I'd rather disable MAC Filtering than to broadcast my network.

    So, in 2015, should we still enable MAC Filtering?

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Sep 24, 2015 6:33 AM in response to FirstCylon
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    Sep 24, 2015 6:33 AM in response to FirstCylon

    MAC filtering is primarily useful on open networks. If you have a WPA (or better) protected network devices that do not have the passphrase cannot connect anyway. So for a home network MAC filtering offers no benefit. Where it does have utility is on a corporate network; there it provides a way to exclude former employees without having to reset the network password. In addition, there is a problem with a lot of consumer routers. The MAC whitelist has a limited number of entries. You can add more MAC addresses, but not all of them will be respected as "allowed." And the limit is not mentioned anywhere in the documentation. I've found this to be true on a couple of otherwise high quality routers.

  • by Mario Aurelio,

    Mario Aurelio Mario Aurelio Sep 26, 2015 9:12 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Sep 26, 2015 9:12 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Lawrence, I disagree.  MAC Filtering offers an additional layer of security to any home network.  Keeping in mind that no network, home or business will ever be 100% secure.  For example, using a strong password, enabling WPA2 (WPA is easily circumvented), changing the IP Address of the network, enabling MAC Filtering, disabling UPnP, disabling the SSID Broadcast, disabling Wi-Fi Protected Setup are just some of the settings that can make a home network safer.  Additionally, one can go to various websites (Whatismyip.org & grc.com) to test the security of their home network.

     

    As administrators of home networks it's in our best interest to constantly evaluate our security measures.  There are degenerate people whose sole purpose is to prey upon individuals who aren't security conscious. Unfortunately, Apple's latest bug with iOS 9 not being able to connect to a network which has MAC Filtering enabled has made all of us who practice safe habits more susceptible to these criminals.

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