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Q: Don't give up on Aperture

I think that giving up on Aperture and accepting its demise is not our only option, Aperture is by far the best digital photo application that Apple (or indeed any other software developer) have created and as such, must not be allowed to disappear.

If we all create a groundswell of opinion we can persuade them to reinstate this Rolls Royce of an application. Lets unite, and rise up to remind Apple that Adobe cannot be the provsole digital photo platform on the planet.

Posted on Sep 16, 2015 8:11 AM

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  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Sep 28, 2015 5:00 PM in response to mayhem62930
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    Sep 28, 2015 5:00 PM in response to mayhem62930
    I too am still using Aperture, but it is getting laggy and crashes more often than ever before.


    I'm using it with a 300+GB library on both a three year old Macbook Pro and a six year old iMac and it runs just fine on both with no crashes.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Sep 29, 2015 8:42 AM in response to freediverx01
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    Sep 29, 2015 8:42 AM in response to freediverx01
    If you're unfamiliar with the reasons why it has such a loyal following then you are not in a position to be lecturing anyone about whether or not there are adequate alternatives available.

     

    I used it from the day it was released. I'm familiar with it, just not hysterical about it. I have now been using LR for a few months. The processing tools are significantly better, reflecting the fact that the app is in constant development, not left to stagnate like Aperture was for three years. As for the DAM features, apart from the managed library, I've yet to come across anything that I couldn't achieve in LR, and then there's those Smart Previews which Aperture never got near. There is a learning curve, yes. It's not as intuitive, you're right. But it's really not that hard to learn.

     

    Oh, and who did I lecture, exactly?

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Sep 29, 2015 8:41 AM in response to Allan Eckert
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    Sep 29, 2015 8:41 AM in response to Allan Eckert

    To me that just say that Apple no longer cares about the serious photographer so why should the serious photographer waste any time on Apple.


    The only reason he or she might is because of the time, money and learning previously committed to the ecosystem. With Aperture gone it's now one step more possible that I could move to another OS and hardware, but then how long would it take me to learn that OS as well as I know this one. It's not a romantic decision, but a pragmatic one.


    Let them have there toy of Photos which is nothing more then a recompiled version of Photos from the iPhone so that it runs on a Mac.

     

    This is inaccurate. It's a more capable app than the iOS one and has several features that the iOS one lack. It is more capable than iPhoto too in most respects.

     

    But it's not a replacement for Aperture, never was and Apple never said it was. They just left the pro-shooter market for software.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Sep 29, 2015 8:42 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Sep 29, 2015 8:42 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    "As for ____________, apart from ____________, I've yet to come across anything that I couldn't achieve in ____________, apart from ____________."

     

    Just fill in the blanks to create your own convincing argument about how any non-Apple product is just as good or better than any Apple product.

  • by euroborn,

    euroborn euroborn Sep 29, 2015 12:48 PM in response to rodphoto
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    Sep 29, 2015 12:48 PM in response to rodphoto

    I totally agree with you.  Photos is geared for the mainstream community, the Facebook generation; it's fine for what it is but definitely no match for Aperture. It's a slap in the face that this application that gained so much popularity among pro photographers would be dropped, just like that, to please mainstream needs.  As a result we are now facing very tough decisions and LOTS of work to keep the versions accumulated in my extensive libraries.  I've not exported most of them and the transition to Lightroom, plug-in or no, disregards the versions.  Tons of hours and work lost.

     

    It's very obvious that Apple is now heading in a new direction under Tim Cook. a direction that seems less thoughtful to me than Steve Job's.  The new direction favors numbers & market share.

     

    That said, they should retain quality products such as Aperture so that their loyal customers can remain.

  • by Colin Lahana,

    Colin Lahana Colin Lahana Sep 29, 2015 12:59 PM in response to euroborn
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    Sep 29, 2015 12:59 PM in response to euroborn

    You would think that Apple would use some of their $18bn profit to further develop these less "demand" products. It's all about profit and market domination especially the mobile market. The "younger" generation are driven by  selfies and quick ways to process those. They don't want to fiddle about with adjustments and so on, because the images are only fleeting. Taken today, forgotten tomorrow, so why bother with adjustments and so on.

     

    As someone previously posted, sadly Apple are now only about profit and market share.

  • by euroborn,

    euroborn euroborn Sep 29, 2015 1:26 PM in response to Badunit
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    Sep 29, 2015 1:26 PM in response to Badunit

    Exactly right!  And I must admit that I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago, with htose sporadic and tardy Aperture updates...

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Sep 29, 2015 3:08 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Sep 29, 2015 3:08 PM in response to freediverx01

    Huh? You really think Apple make the very best everything? There are a lot of apps and devices out there that Apple can't come close to. You really think Pages or Numbers are a feature match for Word and Excel? I know it's a shock but having had three years of development that Aperture never got, LR is a more capable application too.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Sep 29, 2015 3:06 PM in response to Colin Lahana
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    Sep 29, 2015 3:06 PM in response to Colin Lahana
    You would think that Apple would use some of their $18bn profit to further develop these less "demand" products

     

    Why would you think that?

     

    The "younger" generation are driven by  selfies and quick ways to process those. They don't want to fiddle about with adjustments and so on, because the images are only fleeting. Taken today, forgotten tomorrow, so why bother with adjustments and so on.

     

    Condescending much? Perhaps you should send some time out the "younger" generations. It's good for your mental health and it might surprise you just how creative they are.

     

    sadly Apple are now only about profit and market share.

     

    Now? When were they ever anything else? Large Multi-national corporation driven by profit motive. Shock!

  • by John basso 2,

    John basso 2 John basso 2 Sep 29, 2015 5:36 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Sep 29, 2015 5:36 PM in response to freediverx01

      Hello There.

    I also was an early Aperture user and the easy workflow allowed me to very quickly tweak my photo's to my liking.When Apple decided to dump their own software , you start to think;What's next ;Final Cut Pro.X. Studio.Numbers ,Keynotes , Pages? , Etc. Right from the beginning I purchased PT Lens ,for perspective control.I also bought Pixelmator as it had a superior object remover ability , A few month ago I realized that Apple had absolutely no interest in evoking Aperture. Henceforth I bought LR6 ;The alone standing version.However in this alone standing LR 6 .You get basic updates for security and anything els ,you have to buy.Therefore Adobe wants you to use their CC version on prescription $9.99 US @ month, which in Canadian dollars works out at 13.287 +13% Tax = $15.01.Canadian X 12= $180.17.@ Year. However on the Apple Apps store a new photo App appeared.It is called: Affinity Photo. I took one look and I realized that this would solve most of the problems.I bought it for the introduction price of $59.00 Canadian.And I have't look back.Its DAM is not perfect,but it is like a Photoshop type of program.

    I think it is pretty darn good and I am very happy with this Affinity Photo App.It also has wonder full tutorial videos.And when El Capitan comes you don't have to make an upgrade .You could easily keep on going with Yosemite, or you can back up your entire Yosemite onto an external hard drive.So all is not lost.

    Keep on shooting.Don't worry .There is always a new way of doing things. Greetings: John Basso.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Sep 29, 2015 6:01 PM in response to John basso 2
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    Sep 29, 2015 6:01 PM in response to John basso 2

    The thing is, there's no shortage of photo editing software for Mac. There's a million of them with widely varying features and prices. What we don't have is a good replacement for Aperture's DAM capabilities. there are really only two remotely comparable products on the market and they're both expensive and inferior to Aperture, and neither does a good job of migrating an Aperture library intact.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Sep 29, 2015 6:08 PM in response to John basso 2
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    Sep 29, 2015 6:08 PM in response to John basso 2

    Reading about Affinity Photo, it is a Photoshop replacement. It is apparently not like like Aperture or Lightroom or Capture One.  No digital asset management, which was Aperture's strong suit and where it beats the other two hands down (in my opinion).

  • by RobbieMeister,

    RobbieMeister RobbieMeister Sep 29, 2015 11:34 PM in response to RobbieMeister
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    Sep 29, 2015 11:34 PM in response to RobbieMeister

    Interesting!

    I'm getting replies to my last post by email but they are not showing up here???

     

    For the record I am not advocating that particular petition website, really pointing out that they exist and could be an answer to the above question.

     

    I don't think you would get anywhere with Tim Cook, he's probably the one who made the decision and he didn't strike me to be the sort of person who would change their mind easily.

     

    Also. How do you quote someone on here, I cant find a button.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 29, 2015 11:38 PM in response to RobbieMeister
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    Sep 29, 2015 11:38 PM in response to RobbieMeister

    Also. How do you quote someone on here, I cant find a button.

    Use the " in the toolba of the editor window:

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  • by RobbieMeister,

    RobbieMeister RobbieMeister Sep 29, 2015 11:42 PM in response to RobbieMeister
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    Sep 29, 2015 11:42 PM in response to RobbieMeister

    For me it's simple, and before someone tells me I'm wrong I said for me, if I have to move to LR or PS or any other product that is available on a PC then I will not be buying any more Apple hardware, I may even sell what I have. These days PC hardware as good as Apple's can be bought from someone like Dell for half the price.

     

    I don't suppose Apple cares about that. Not as long as my 9 year old is asking for an iPod touch for her birthday.

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