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Q: Using Boot Camp to install Windows 10. Won't work. Why not?

I've gone through the process of downloading the support software onto a USB stick. I purchased a copy of Windows 10 online and that's plugged in too. The mac restarted as it was supposed to but didn't go to the installer bit, I just ended up back on the startup login screen.

 

I'm guessing here that it'll only install from an ISO image. Is this correct? I've downloaded one from Microsoft and just wanted confirmation that this is correct before I spend hours tonight trying to install it.


If I am correct, why wouldn't it  install from a USB stick? I assume it's quite common to install from USB sticks these days so why would a Mac insist on using a disk image?


Anyway, am I correct?

iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013), OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 12, 2015 2:41 AM

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  • by ceoofrad,

    ceoofrad ceoofrad Oct 12, 2015 3:30 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 12, 2015 3:30 AM in response to andyward82

    Use these steps to choose a startup disk with Startup Manager:

    1. Turn on or restart your Mac.
    2. Immediately press and hold the Option key. After a few seconds, the Startup Manager appears. If you don't see the volume you want to use, wait a few moments for Startup Manager to finish scanning connected drives.
    3. Use your mouse or trackpad, or left and right arrow keys to select the volume you want to use.
    4. Double-click or press the Return key to start up your Mac from the volume you select

    Choose the USB in this startup manager and then it will install windows.

    I hope this helps.

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 4:26 AM in response to ceoofrad
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    Oct 12, 2015 4:26 AM in response to ceoofrad

    Hi.

    I tried to pick a different startup disk on the system preferences before restarting but there was nothing there other than the mac startup disk. I don't think bootcamp partitioned my hard drive properly.

    I'll have a go at what you're suggesting there and see how I get on.

    Thanks!
    Andy

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 12, 2015 5:09 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 12, 2015 5:09 AM in response to andyward82

    Your iMac can install Windows using an external Optical drive or a USB installer. You need to use a USB2 flash drive, USB3 and generic flash drives do not work.

     

    Please see How to install Windows using Boot Camp - Apple Support .

     

    This may also help Use Windows 10 on your Mac with Boot Camp - Apple Support

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 5:36 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 12, 2015 5:36 AM in response to Loner T

    Really? So, the USB drive that was supplied to be by Microsoft (I'm assuming USB 3) won't work?

    Wow - how wonderfully inconvenient.

    Why on earth have Apple made this the case? Doesn't seem to make much sense to me...

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 12, 2015 6:26 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 12, 2015 6:26 AM in response to andyward82

    Your iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013) - Technical Specifications has

     

    Connections and Expansion

    • SDXC card slot
    • Four USB 3 ports (compatible with USB 2)
    • Two Thunderbolt ports
    • Mini DisplayPort output with support for DVI, VGA, and dual-link DVI (adapters sold separately)
    • 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet (RJ-45 connector)
    • Kensington lock slot

     

    If the Windows Installer does not have appropriate drivers, USB3 devices do not work. This is a Windows Installer issue, not a hardware issue. W7/W8.1 installers do not have such drivers. If you bought W10, test it. The USB3 W10 is not an ISO, it is an installer.

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 12, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Loner T

    Hi thanks for this, however I'm still without a definitive answer.

    I'm aware of the slots on the back of the mac and what they are - that's all understood.

     

    SOoooooo, it's not going to install from the Windows USB that I purchased. That's fine - the serial number/activation key/whatever  is what I paid for pretty much.

    So, as an alternative, I have already downloaded the official Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft and was going to go through this to install.

    Would this work?

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 12, 2015 7:37 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 12, 2015 7:37 AM in response to andyward82

    andyward82 wrote:

     

    So, as an alternative, I have already downloaded the official Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft and was going to go through this to install.

    Would this work?

    Yes, it will work. Use BCA and start the process using a USB2 flash disk. Please post any issues you see. If you see a GPT v MBR issue, it can be easily corrected.

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 7:40 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 12, 2015 7:40 AM in response to Loner T

    Good stuff. I shall have a bosh tonight then.

    Thanks.

     

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 11:30 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:30 AM in response to Loner T

    Right, well I've had a go and I'm having a trouble.

     

    I got a USB drive (2.0) and wiped it as FAT. All fine.

    I took the windows 10 ISO downloaded from the Microsoft site.

    I've tried to install it and now I have this issue - see attached.


    Can anyone help me?

    I've not even got Windows installed and already I'm sick of PCs.

    It's saying it needs to be Windows 7 or later yet clearly I have a Windows 10 ISO!!!!

     

    HELP!!!!!

     

    Screen Shot 2015-10-12 at 19.25.12.png

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 12, 2015 11:44 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:44 AM in response to andyward82

    Do you have any pending Software Updates on Yosemite?

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 12, 2015 11:48 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:48 AM in response to Loner T

    Nope. I'm on El Capitan too.


    I've gone back, taken Windows partition off of the mac and have started again from scratch - this time with the Windows ISO.

     

    It's in the process of "Downloading Windows support software"

     

    I shall keep you updated..!

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 13, 2015 5:16 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 13, 2015 5:16 AM in response to andyward82

    So, here's what happened in the end.

    It all seemed to go to plan. The windows logo appeared and the setup dialogue box came up.

    It asked me what partition I wanted to install onto. I didn't know the answer. So, looking at them - one of them was around 35gb (roughly the same as my BootCamp partition) so I assumed it was that. So, I formatted it and sent the installer on its way. It got to about 90% done and a message that had the word "locale" in it appeared and then uninstalled everything.

    Once that was done it tried to restart but I'd seemingly wiped the OS from my hard drive so I had to re-install it.

     

    So, back to square one really.

    What partition should I have used?

    Why isn't there any mention of having to choose what partition I want it installed on?


    This is an absolute pain in da bum!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Oct 13, 2015 5:59 AM in response to andyward82
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    Oct 13, 2015 5:59 AM in response to andyward82

    This link - https://help.apple.com/bootcamp/assistant/6.0/ - may help.

     

    1. Which OS did you wipe - OS X ?

    2. Since you already have the installer USB built once, you can use it again, and use the last option in the BC Assistant, Install (or Remove) as necessary.

  • by andyward82,

    andyward82 andyward82 Oct 13, 2015 7:00 AM in response to Loner T
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    Oct 13, 2015 7:00 AM in response to Loner T

    Seemingly I did, yes.

    I assume there are 'invisible' partitions on the drive and I chose the wrong one.

    I'm happy to wipe the partition and start again but i'm worried I'll pick the wrong partition again.

    Do you know what the partition will be called?

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