Q: Don't give up on Aperture
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Oct 29, 2015 5:56 PMby Badunit,Assuming they improve the DAM features of Photos and the ability to display important information on the screen alongside the images (such as the file names for heaven's sake), it might be somewhat capable for those with low expectations. But the way I see it, the plug-ins are like going to separate units within the app: Switch to plug-in A to get rid of noise and fix spots. Close that one and switch to plug-in B to correct lens distortion. Close that one and switch to plug-in C to brush in a color adjustment. And so on. Each of those plug-ins will cost you more money. It will easily add up to more than Aperture ever cost and will be nowhere near as usable. People complain about Lightroom's interface where you have to switch from the Library module to the Editing module when you want to edit an image. Photos is like switching from the Library to the Editor to another editor to another editor, to another editor., and so on. If you could create a "favorites" list of controls from all the available plug-ins versus going from one plug-in to the others (and often back again), it would be more Lightroom-like (for what that is worth).
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Oct 29, 2015 6:04 PMby freediverx01,> Assuming they improve the DAM features of Photos...
That's a huge assumption. I agree there's no limit to what can be accomplished on the editing side with extensions. But there is no way that Photos will ever even remotely approach the DAM and workflow strengths of Aperture. It would require too radical a redesign and in the end it wouldn't benefit the casual users who are its target market. Even if this were Apple's intention, we wouldn't see anything remotely decent for at least five years.
Look at the iWork apps. Beautifully designed for basic tasks but clearly no interest on Apple's part to beef them up to better compete with Excel, for example. Apple has made it clear they're exiting the pro and prosumer markets. I consider Final Cut and Logic Pro to be anomalies - two apps lucky enough to be great upgrades before Apple decided to shift away from the pro market.
If you need any additional evidence this has happened, note that Randy Ubillos, the genius behind the 2011 FCPX redesign, left Apple this April after 20 years with the company. His official title at Apple was chief architect of photo and video applications. In fact, now that I think of it, perhaps his departure led to Apple abandoning Aperture and not the other way around.
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Oct 29, 2015 6:17 PMby Csound1,Badunit wrote:
It is the best, even in its death throes. I do not understand why Apple dropped it in favor of their worse-than-iPhoto,
They didn't, it has not been replaced and probably will never be replaced, iPhoto and Photos are free consumer level apps, neither is intended to replace Aperture.
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Oct 29, 2015 7:16 PMby Gerald Gifford,Hamper wrote:
Stress yee not my friend, once the plug-ins arrive for Photos it will be just as Aperture was, only without the bloat.
Not sure about anyone else, but I'm not holding my breath.
To think 3rd party plugin developers are going to enable options Apple hasn't provided is laughable.
Jerry
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Oct 29, 2015 7:17 PMby Gerald Gifford,freediverx01 wrote:
Once again that's missing the point entirely. Photo editors are a dime a dozen. What's unique about Aperture are its DAM features and workflows. There's nothing else on the market that approaches it. You can never fix that with a plug-in.
Amen!!
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Oct 29, 2015 7:55 PMby Gerald Gifford,freediverx01 wrote:
On the editing side they're already there with some decent options.
Like DAM, Calendars, and emailing images?
How about control of when Photos is and IS NOT wanted to import images from a memory card? This is another Apple function that is "do it our way or don't do it".
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Oct 29, 2015 10:59 PMby Csound1,Gerald Gifford wrote:
Hamper wrote:
Stress yee not my friend, once the plug-ins arrive for Photos it will be just as Aperture was, only without the bloat.
Not sure about anyone else, but I'm not holding my breath.
To think 3rd party plugin developers are going to enable options Apple hasn't provided is laughable.
Jerry
I can't predict the future so I'll just wait and see.
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Oct 30, 2015 12:28 AMby léonie,On the editing side they're already there with some decent options.
The editing extensions can help with editing but not with the photo library organization.
I have not seen a single extension that will display additional metadata for a photo or make it possible to edit the metadata. None of the extensions allows to create albums or show photos side-by-side for comparison.
And all edits are lossy.
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Oct 30, 2015 1:39 AMby Terence Devlin,How about control of when Photos is and IS NOT wanted to import images from a memory card? This is another Apple function that is "do it our way or don't do it".
Huh? There are exactly zero circumstances when Photos is required to import images from a memory card. Zip. Nada. None at all. Not a single one.
Pop a memory card into a card reader, use the Finder. Works 100% of cases.
Image Capture. Works 100% of cases.
So, with a memory card you can use The Finder, Photos, Image Capture, (and, if you still have them, iPhoto, Aperture), or Lightroom etc etc etc Not sure how much more control you want or need...
So not so much an example of Apple doing anything so much as a clueless user...
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Oct 30, 2015 3:05 AMby Badunit,Csound1 wrote:
Badunit wrote:
It is the best, even in its death throes. I do not understand why Apple dropped it in favor of their worse-than-iPhoto,
They didn't, it has not been replaced and probably will never be replaced, iPhoto and Photos are free consumer level apps, neither is intended to replace Aperture.
You read my statement incorrectly. I did not say Apple "replaced" Aperture with Photos, I said Apple dropped Aperture in favor of Photos. They exited the professional photography market in favor of supporting their consumer photography market.
