FLBeachComber

Q: Does ANYONE Have a Working iPad with 1000+ Apps after Updating to iOS 9.x?

after extensive testing and failures on 5 different model devices, it appears the fix for the high number of apps fixed in 8.4 is now broken, but not rebooting the device.

 

issues include failure to upgrade to iOS 9.x - even 9.0.x > 9.1

 

unable to restore backup. Quits installing after a period of time even though it restored successfully onto 8.4.1 device

 

same issues even if setting up as new device.

 

unable to backup device

 

unable to update apps. Downloads but does not install.

 

unable to to install new apps. Downloads but does not install

 

unable to delete apps. Like a Zombie, they return after power cycling

 

have spent over 1,000 hours on this. Same issues on iPhone 5, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iphone 6s, iPad Air

 

lokking for ANYONE who has iOS 9x with 1000+ apps that can do the above successfully

 

thx

iOS 9

Posted on Nov 1, 2015 3:31 AM

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Q: Does ANYONE Have a Working iPad with 1000+ Apps after Updating to iOS 9.x?

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  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 11:07 AM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 11:07 AM in response to FLBeachComber

    Okay,

    If your devices are that loaded up with folders and apps, why?

    How do you use your devices?

    What are the storage sizes of all your iDevices.

    iDevices start having odd performance behaviours when the free storage space gets to 2GBs or less.

    I use my iPad pretty regularly and my iPad 3 has 30 folders and I have about 200 apps and things are running fine on iOS 9.1.

    Plus, I maintain a mimimum of no less the 4 GBs of free space. Currently, my iPad 3 has almost 8 Gbs of free space left.

    Have you tried turning off all of the newer iOS eye candy?

     

    Try resetting All Settings found in the Settings App under General and in the right column under Reset.

     

    Try resetting histories and deleting/resetting caches in all of the web browsers you use.

    If you use Safari, these functions maybe l in the Settings App under Safari.

    Other web browsers have their settings inside of the running app, itself.

     

    Try turning on Reduced Motion.

    This is found in the Settings App in the General tab  the left panel.

    In the right panel look under Accessibility, the look for Reduce Motion and turn this feature "On".

     

     

    In the Settings App under the General Tab, in the right column, look for Background App Refresh and turn this setting to "off".

     

    Try a reset of your iPad by holdings down both the Home and sleep/wake buttons simultaneously until your iPad goes to black and restarts with Apple logo, then release the buttons.

    Good Luck!

  • by FLBeachComber,

    FLBeachComber FLBeachComber Nov 1, 2015 11:27 AM in response to MichelPM
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    Nov 1, 2015 11:27 AM in response to MichelPM

    @MichelPM    

     

    I have re-imaged iOS 9.1 on a 128GB 6s+ from iTunes 7 hours ago.

     

    Set device up as new, with no histories, cache et al. Did not turn on Keychain.

     

    Using FiOS connection and 802.11ac installed virtually everything i had ever purchased (or attempted to). Unit quit installing at 1002 Apps and turned into Zombie Mode.

     

    Deleted Apps return on power reboot.

     

    Unable to upgrade any apps (though they download - just will not install) and unable to install any other apps.

     

    It is an iOS 9.x issue that turning things off and on will not solve.

     

    But thank you for taking a helpful approach and not being a troll.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 11:41 AM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 11:41 AM in response to FLBeachComber

    My advice would be to contnue to deal with Apple Support directly as there is, probably, no one here that can help you with such extreme use of your iDevices.

     

    Good Luck!

  • by Rudegar,

    Rudegar Rudegar Nov 1, 2015 12:20 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 12:20 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    No I don't believe anybody apart from you have attempted to install 1000+ apps on any ios device ever,

    Could be that nobody have attempted to install 1000+ programs on osx and maybe even on windows or Linux

    You can use feedback to inform apple of the issue

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • by FLBeachComber,

    FLBeachComber FLBeachComber Nov 1, 2015 12:47 PM in response to Rudegar
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    Nov 1, 2015 12:47 PM in response to Rudegar

    @Rudegar

     

    A simple search would have proven your statement incorrect.

     

    Furthermore, according to Apple Engineering Docs, one can install as many Apps as long as they have memory available.

  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Nov 1, 2015 3:54 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 3:54 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    Sorry for the delay in responding, I have to sleep sometimes. Reading the thread it seems you're trying to prove in IOS8.4.1 you could add 1000 apps and in IOS 9  you can't. You proved your point, obviously it's impossible or you would have done it. One reason, just a guess, is maybe with the addition of the left-handed Spotlight Search there is one less home page to work with.

    If you don't need those apps get rid of them and put a few good games on your devices.

  • by FLBeachComber,

    FLBeachComber FLBeachComber Nov 1, 2015 4:09 PM in response to bobseufert
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    Nov 1, 2015 4:09 PM in response to bobseufert

    As there are people with a high number of Apps, I am not trying to prove it cannot be done.

     

    If you will review the Original Question, I was actually looking for proof it could not be done.

     

    I was looking for the positive, while virtually everyone replying was looking for the negative.

     

    Speaks Volumes.

  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Nov 1, 2015 4:14 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 4:14 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    Well you proved it can't be done. Time for your next challenge.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Nov 1, 2015 4:27 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 4:27 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    FLBeachComber wrote:

     

    If you will review the Original Question, I was actually looking for proof it could not be done.

     

    How do you propose to do that? There are somewhere around 250 million iPads in use. If 100 iPad users said that they could not install more than 1,000 apps that would not prove it could not be done. It would only mean that 100 people could not do it. Even if all 250 million said they could not do it, that would still not be proof that it was impossible (although it would hint at that result strongly). All you need is one user saying they installed more than 1,000 apps and that would be proof that it COULD be done. There are somewhere over a million apps available for iPads. The upper limit (and I'm sure there is one) would depend not only on the number of apps, but the specific mix of the apps installed. Thus, it's impossible to prove what you are looking for.

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 5:25 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Nov 1, 2015 5:25 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    This reply is to all of you who are making fun of this guy who has this problem. I Have over 1700 apps on my iPad Air 2. Some of you people only use your iPad for a few simple things. I use it for business and also other things. I too cannot back my iPad apps to my computer since iOS 9 came out. I have upgraded it to 9.1 and still cannot back up my apps. And just like the other guy, I resent you people from saying that no one has more than 1000 apps and that they are not needed. I have multiple apps that do basically the same thing. The reason being is that many times the person or company that makes an app stops updating it and then it is of no use, so I then use a second app that does the same thing. I am also interested in many, many different things and so have apps for everything I am interested in. I've been working on and building computers since 1978. I'm sure most of you people only have a handful of apps on your iPad. Well a lot of us have lots more. I have a 128 gig iPad Air 2 with over 45 gig still open on it and I can't back up my apps in iTunes on my Windows 7 computer. I had no problems with iOS 8.4 but it stopped me backing up my apps when I updated to iOS 9. Why do you make fun of the guy who made his original request? All he wanted was some help, not a bunch of bull that most of you are giving him. As far as him spending 1000 hours on what he was doing, I believe him. I spent almost that much time trying to restore my iPad Air 1 after I updated it to iOS 8 and then having lots of problems. I know what this problem is, but it is too technical to go into it here. It is a problem with iOS 9 that affects only certain iPads. Some iPad Air 2's have this problem, others don't. But for the people who have this problem, it is important to them. If you can't answer his question, then shut up and stop making fun of him.

  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Nov 1, 2015 5:35 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 5:35 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    Please supply a screenshot of the page below with your 1700 apps.  Thank you.

     

    image.jpeg

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Nov 1, 2015 5:53 PM in response to tonefox
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    Nov 1, 2015 5:53 PM in response to tonefox

    There have been only about 700 hours since the actual availability of iOS 9. So it would have been impossible to work 1,000 hours on it; the most anyone could work would be 700 hours, and that only if they didn't pause to sleep, eat or deal with other bodily functions. And you would have to be independently wealthy, so you wouldn't have to work a day job. So with that exaggeration to start with, I think we can ignore the others also.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Nov 1, 2015 6:03 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:03 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    This is a little confusing. You have 1700 apps on your iPad, and your iPad still works. That makes whatever problem you have different from the OP's as his 1002 apps stop his iPad from working. And you have just proved there is no limit to the number of apps, or if there is, it isn't 1,000. You state that your problem is you can't back up the apps. But apps have never been part of an iOS backup; only app data is backed up. Are you missing app data in your backups?

     

    What IS true is that you can no longer transfer apps from an iOS device to iTunes as of iOS 9 in some cases. To get an app into iTunes you must download it to iTunes from the app store. The reason is app thinning; as of iOS 9 when you install an app in iOS the entire app may not be installed; only those resources of the app that are needed by the platform you install on will be included. So an app downloaded directly to the iPad from the app store won't necessarily work on an iPhone, and in this case iTunes will not allow you to transfer from the iPad to iTunes. Is this perhaps what you are seeing? If you need the app to be in iTunes you must download it directly to iTunes.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 6:34 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:34 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    Well, well,

    I think we found number 2!!...

    Why do you think you need 1700 apps on your iPad? (BTW, 1700 is a good number for me, being a Trek fan and all!)

    Why can't you simply delete the apps that are no longer useful to you or haven't been updated or no longer being updated.

    Why keep them if you can no longer use them or they are of no use to you any longer???

    Also, moblie devices like the iPad are very limited compared to full blown laptop and desktop computers.

    Why make your life difficult by making your mobile computing device (that you, apparently, need and use for both professional and personal use) work much harder than it has to?

    iPads are not a full blown laptop replacement.

    Both you and the Original Poster are taxing your iPads to the limit for no real, practical reasons!

    Seems to me both of you can solve your issues by just simply reducing the amount of apps that are on your iPads.

    The number of apps both of you are talking about is simply a ridiculous and unweidly amount of apps that appear to me to severly tax both the hardware and software limits of your iPads!

    And I would like to see a screenshot from you showing that your iPad is loaded up with 1700 apps!

    I think a laptop and desktop computer would have issues with this many apps installed on these more powerful computing devices, too!

    What is the point of having all of these apps at the ready on your iPad?

    How many of these can you be possibly be using over a course of say a year of your life?

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 6:30 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:30 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    I noticed this immediately in iOS 9.

    I can download/update my iOS apps via through iTunes on my Mac from the iOS store, but I can't backup apps any longer with my iPad connected up to my Mac syncing and backing up to iTunes.

    It only saves the data, now.

    I wonder why Apple changed this?

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