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Q: El Capitan killed my Gmail pop setup

Hi,

 

I had my Gmail set up as POP before I upgraded to El Capitan. Since upgrading, the mail program hasn't been able to access my Gmail POP account. The IMAP accounts I have at Gmail and the others elsewhere, IMAP and POP, work fine.

 

I'd rather not have an IMAP account. I hate that it downloads mail without my checking it first. I use either the Gmail website or a menubar app called Mail Tab to check my mail before i download it. I don't get much spam but the last line of defense is checking it before I download it, thus the POP setup.

 

Mail assumes you want to set up an IMAP account when you set up a Gmail account in it. There is a way to get it to let you choose POP but so far, I'm not getting it to work. I keep getting an "unable to verify account name or password" message from the Mail Internet Account pane. I tried setting up a new account but continued to get that message. There was talk about using the control key to get Mail to give me a "Next" button instead of assuming I want to set up an IMAP account but I am not getting that to work either.

 

I have things properly setup at Gmail. It all worked before I upgraded to 10.11.

 

So, any ideas on how I get POP to work for Gmail would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

Cheers,

 

John L

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Sep 30, 2015 2:30 PM

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  • by Nate Walter,

    Nate Walter Nate Walter Oct 9, 2015 4:10 AM in response to orbitalpunk
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    Oct 9, 2015 4:10 AM in response to orbitalpunk

    Thanks for this thread - I was certainly bothered with the mail changes when I switched to El Capitan.

     

    I made the suggested change in google security options, but nothing has changed in my mail program.  The account still shows as IMAP, and I'm not seeing any place I can switch it to pop.  Am I missing something? 

     

    Under my Pref > Accts page I see Acct Type as IMAP, and Incoming Mail Server as pop.gmail.com.  In neither place can I make a change. 

     

    I tried adding a new account wondering if needed a separate account for POP, but mail won't let me add another, because I am already logged in to that account. 

     

    Do I have to delete then re-add?  I am worried that doing that will royally mess up my inbox and folders. 

  • by jillbz,

    jillbz jillbz Oct 24, 2015 11:28 AM in response to lipwak
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    Oct 24, 2015 11:28 AM in response to lipwak

    I was so happy to find your post.  For 5 days now I have been getting almost constant notifications that I have received Gmails from 2011.  SO MANY and I haven't been able to figure out how to make it stop.  I also get them on my ipad and iphone.  I tried the fix mentioned above about allowing less secure apps and even though I do not understand it, I'm going to try it and see if it stops the incoming 2011 downloading.

     

    Did it work for you?

     

    Thanks

    Jill

  • by jillbz,

    jillbz jillbz Oct 24, 2015 11:31 AM in response to lipwak
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    Oct 24, 2015 11:31 AM in response to lipwak

    nope - still getting notifications.  The notification comes across my desktop - I click on it and it is an email from 2011 or 2012 (it seems to have gotten finished with 2011....now has moved on to 2012.)  ALL old gmails.  You? If you fixed it can you tell me how?  THANKS

  • by Momat32,

    Momat32 Momat32 Nov 2, 2015 11:23 AM in response to Jeremy Knowles
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:23 AM in response to Jeremy Knowles

    This is exactly the same situation I am in.  I already have the Allow Less Security switched to ON before this problem developed so that is not solving it for me.

  • by Paulo Breim,

    Paulo Breim Paulo Breim Nov 6, 2015 6:42 PM in response to lipwak
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    Nov 6, 2015 6:42 PM in response to lipwak

    Definitely I reached my limit with Apple.

    Thousands of emails are coming again as new after installing El Captain.

    4 google accounts do not access anymore.

    This problem has already happened to the Yosemite

    Apple does not respect i users, the things only work if you use only things Apple.

    There are thousands of messages from users complaining and Apple does nothing!

     

    I will format my MacBook with Linux and never more will use Apple.

     

    Paulo Breim

  • by Rob Mitchell1,

    Rob Mitchell1 Rob Mitchell1 Dec 27, 2015 7:29 AM in response to lipwak
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    Dec 27, 2015 7:29 AM in response to lipwak

    I just updated to El Capitan, tried to send an email with my POP gmail account, and ran into this problem. I use two-factor-authentication, and apparently that's why I didn't see anything about allowing insecure apps when I accessed my google settings. Seemed like the processes people went through caused various hassles I hoped to avoid. Just playing around, I ended up fixing the problem pretty painlessly and quickly.

     

    First off, I used the Accounts setting inside the Mail Preferences, not the more broad Accounts setting you can access from Mail, but that can also be used for other applications. From before I upgraded to El Capitan, I had an inactive IMAP account, and then my Gmail POP account, which I had originally created by fooling the OS by setting it up with a dummy address (like me@gmaid.com - so the OS didn't realize I was trying to set up a Gmail account), and then at the last minute, after the wrong info didn't connect, I fixed all the info to say "gmail".  I unchecked "enable this account." Then I edited the Gmail SMTP setting (Outgoing Mail Server) and added a fresh Google App Password. That's it, and everything worked fine. I mean, totally fine, no turning off 2FA, no redownloading of mail, no switching to IMAP, no making any changes on my Google account (maybe the less secure option was already selected a long time ago? I don't know)..

     

    Hope this helps someone. I'm really happy I avoided some of the other options presented

  • by trydesky,

    trydesky trydesky Dec 31, 2015 9:45 PM in response to davidcotter
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    Dec 31, 2015 9:45 PM in response to davidcotter

    My problem  of getting a password failure for message after upgrading to El Capitan on my gmail pop account was fixed using this davedcotter's post.

    Thanks so much!!!

  • by javierfromvalencia,

    javierfromvalencia javierfromvalencia Jan 10, 2016 3:16 AM in response to lipwak
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    Jan 10, 2016 3:16 AM in response to lipwak

    Happened to me after upgrade to El Capitan. I just eliminated the gmail account in y Mac Mail app (Mail->Accounts) and then set it up again as new and it worked again.

     

    Not sure if I did something wrong but I figured out all my gmail mail is kept safe in gmail google so hopefully i lost nothing

  • by Arthur Levy,

    Arthur Levy Arthur Levy Jan 11, 2016 2:03 PM in response to lipwak
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    Jan 11, 2016 2:03 PM in response to lipwak

    Add me to the list of those whose POP accounts are behaving buggy after converting to El Capitan. All of the descriptions by others have surfaced in my several Gmail accounts. I made this a case with Apple Care and they were able to duplicate the problem on their iMac. As far as I can tell, the problem has no solution right now. POP accounts will erroneously behave like IMAP accounts (if they are touched -or- created) even though Gmail setting are clearly shown to be POP. If I learn more, I'll post it here.

  • by R2hugs,

    R2hugs R2hugs Jan 12, 2016 11:22 PM in response to Nate Walter
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    Jan 12, 2016 11:22 PM in response to Nate Walter

    I'm having the same problem with POP mail ... nowhere is there a place in Mail to make IMAP account into POP account ... if you get this resolved please post solution!!

  • by Coastal Jewel,

    Coastal Jewel Coastal Jewel Feb 24, 2016 1:40 PM in response to lipwak
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    Feb 24, 2016 1:40 PM in response to lipwak

    Did this "fix" end up working for you?   I just updated to El Capitan and am having same issues.  Even when I set to IMAP it won't send.  And I prefer to use POP because I can control what is downloaded... Just wondering.  Thanks

  • by lipwak,

    lipwak lipwak Feb 24, 2016 1:52 PM in response to Coastal Jewel
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    Feb 24, 2016 1:52 PM in response to Coastal Jewel

    Yes, it did. All has been well since. Not looking forward to the next time my POP account gets knocked out...

  • by pqlior,

    pqlior pqlior Mar 6, 2016 8:30 PM in response to lipwak
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    Mar 6, 2016 8:30 PM in response to lipwak

    This is still a problem.

  • by tiagorocha,

    tiagorocha tiagorocha Aug 9, 2016 11:34 AM in response to lipwak
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    Aug 9, 2016 11:34 AM in response to lipwak

    I have El Capitan 10.11.5 and it works for me.

    Here's how I always do it to trick Gmail

    On the first window when trying to create a new account don't pick Google. Pick "Other Mail Account".

    Then on the second window, on the Email Address, just put something random WITHOUT using @gmail.com. Put something like "johnsmith@ilikechocolate.com". Anything but @gmail.com

    Insert your real password. When you hit Sign In it will say it couldn't verify, but it's ok. On that 3rd window insert your normal information. Here you will change johnsmith@ilikechocolate.com to your normal gmail email address. From there, you will have to change to Pop and use pop.gmail.com on the incoming and outgoing mail servers.

    It works for me. Hope it works for you too
    Good luck!

  • by Brunettin,

    Brunettin Brunettin Sep 8, 2016 12:48 PM in response to davidcotter
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:48 PM in response to davidcotter

    Wow. That did work! Thanks.

     

    Okay but what dod I do about the paranoia Google has instilled by telling me how unsecure things are now that I've turned it off?

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