Q: iOS 9 / iTunes / Outlook Notes sync on Windows

I thought they took out the Outlook-Notes sync ages ago, not just recently w/ iOS9.

I didn't even realize it for months.

The POP mail problem, however, is new (and very aggravating) w/ iOS9

I despise the way that software companies are now forcing us down the route of storing all of our data in the cloud. Within 10 years I'll bet that Outlook will be no more, and the short attention span of the masses will mean that the only people who yearn for it or applications like it will be seen as cranks. ****, people won't even know what a desktop application is in 10 years.

I have a home set-up which means that all of my personal important data is kept on my own local hardware which Outlook talks to. I then sync my iPhone with Outlook for Notes and Appointments (because the Exchange replacement I use already no longer supports the latest protocol so that iOS can talk to it directly). This keeps everything available to me wherever I am, but I'm in control of my data.

Why should I be forced to abandon this to move to keeping my stuff in the cloud? I'm a paying consumer too (as paying as the next person who's happy to keep their life on iCloud, Office 365, GMail, etc.) This discussion tells me that I'm not currently in that much of a minority.

Software companies (or should that now be "service" companies) take notice. I will stick with ancient technology before I surrender my privacy and freedom from being tied to a service.

How are you syncing your iPhone notes to Outlook?

I don't even see that option (in iTunes sync).

I hear ya! I still have the very 1st palm pilot, the professional and the III.  I don't EVER remember them doing ANYTHING that caused me grief. I only stopped because of the Hillary. Convenience of one device. Well really that's why for me, really. I do have my own home server but I'm confident if I lose anything the NSA will get it for me. I already decided I won't upgrade past my 5 for the many many reasons 6 users have. I can't take the grief. It takes me away from my business, like 6 hours today just trying to figure out a work around for my 187 notes. The world is on fire and it's heading to us if not already here and waiting for the right time so I guess going backwards is the way to go.

I agree 100% with you. I lived during a time when our privacy was sacred and important. I believe the plan is already in place to make everything in the cloud. The last of us not cooperating are getting what Cass Sunstein refers to as nudging us. His final solution is force. It's gonna be getting worse. But hey what do I know.

Re cloud: I come from a family that keeps long term paper archives, and the following sentences come to my mind:

- the road to h**l is paved with good intentions,

- information is valuable,

- possession is "three quarters of ownership",

- archives in parishes were the "clouds" of the peasants in the past centuries: when Napoleon invaded countries and wanted to gift invaded land to his generals, he burned the parishes with their land records, so peasants and land holders could not prove their ownership claims, even after Waterloo.

Clouds are beautiful engineering solutions with great future potential of misuse.

My Notes in my iPhone are important to me; for proper custodial hygiene, I hope that Apple will reinstate local Notes backup, either in Outlook or directly in iTunes.

Congrats for your post.

Fully agree...

There are work-arounds, but it involves cut/paste.

I'd like local sync w/ Outlook of notes too, but fear that's a lost cause.

(I am *really* hoping they fix the d*#m bug in the iOS9 mail app for POP accounts -- that's harder to work around than just notes.)

I'm adapting to this "new normal" -- some involves using <gasp> cloud-sync, some a cut/paste/other app method.

You can always email your notes to yourself (unless you consider that, too, to be too "cloudy").

On the whole, I'm much less worried about the NSA than I am about the identity-theft-rings.

I loved the iPhone and it integrated perfectly with my business allowing me a large measure of freedom to not be tied to my office, but these latest changes (I prefer to call them "incidents") have completely changed my mind. I don't think many people are aware of the new "non-support" for POP3 to which you referred, which is going to create many challenges for those that need to be assured their past email is always available. I don't know what Apple's thinking is, but they are doing their best to run off all but the twitterites.

Your point about identity theft concerns with cloud storage is well taken, but my main concern is that if I depend on another party (Apple in this case) to store and safeguard my data, I have no control over if/when they will have a change in strategy and my data goes to cyber heaven. It is repugnant that Apple would intentionally jeopardize their user's data integrity, but since they have done it and not looked back with this recent change with Outlook Notes, I have gotten the message loud and clear.

itsmyfirkinname wrote:

 

Why should I be forced to abandon this to move to keeping my stuff in the cloud? I'm a paying consumer too (as paying as the next person who's happy to keep their life on iCloud, Office 365, GMail, etc.) This discussion tells me that I'm not currently in that much of a minority.

A lot of people feel the same way we do. I received an email from a company that conducted a survey and it turned out 80 percent of their customers chose their product for the privacy.

Windows 10 has been the easiest new OS to adapt to except for one big problem with it is that it tries to connect you to the cloud every which way and I had to spend time disconnected from it.

"You can always email your notes to yourself (unless you consider that, too, to be too "cloudy")."

I was going shopping in London, so instead of what I'd usually do of writing a note of things not to forget I e-mailed the list to myself. So of course the phone just refused to pick up the e-mail all afternoon, should have picked an IMAP account I guess...

Sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up.... That should've said "I was syncing my iPhone with Outlook for notes...". Which is how I discovered this discussion, just yesterday when I needed for the first time since upgrading to iOS 9 to get some information from my PC to my iPhone, and tried to use an Outlook note as I usually do.

If your phone isn't retrieving mail, I don't see how a different type of mail account is going to help.

Was the note not on your phone either? Where did you email it from?

My POP mail is available -- I d/l to my PC; I only use the phone to pre-scan it & flag for deal-with-later.

(I do delete-from-server manually)

I copy "keeper-notes" to a different app which syncs to my PC via a different cloud. There are other options that don't depend on Apple's cloud for permanent storage.

That stat doesn't tell me much, since you don't mention what the app is, what type of data, who the target customer is, what other app-choices there are for similar functions....

I feel very differently about privacy in apps that have health or finance related data vs those that list my music & book wish lists.