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Q: Will the apple pencil work on ipad air 2

I purchased an ipad air 2 for drawing but found that there are hardly any pressure sensitive stylus that work with it. Does anyone have any idea if the new apple pencil for the ipad pro will work for ipad air 2?

Posted on Sep 9, 2015 2:03 PM

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  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Nov 17, 2015 11:39 AM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 11:39 AM in response to BobFrankly

    BobFrankly said:

     

    "I have also been an Apple user for a long time, and have also supported Apple devices in an enterprise environment. I have much more experience with Apple products then I care to have, and eagerly run to the sanity of PC's outside of having an iPad Air as a drawing tablet and news reader. I've seen the "why isn't this working when it obviously should" cases, and on the flip side I've seen the "how is this working when it shouldn't" cases. Apple does both, sometimes without rhyme or reason, and it's those unreliable uncertainties that have caused many workplaces to revert back to PC where they used to tolerate Apple's software/hardware."

     

    This must be why Apple is doing so poorly financially.

     

    On the PC side of things (which includes multiple manufacturers) the same hardware upgrade situation does happen with some companies. But Microsoft is a virtual slave to backwards compatibility leading to the continues reliance on the Register in Windows and the continued security problems which apparently a lot of places prefer. I doubt any workplace has gone back to PCs due to the Apple Pencil or similar situations and Apple never got much of a foothold in the business world with the Mac anyways.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 17, 2015 11:40 AM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 11:40 AM in response to BobFrankly

    If you are really an expert on technologies and, specifically, stylus/input device technologies, maybe you should give this person some real help.

    HE REALLY NEEDS IT BADLY

    Maybe you can help him out with his issues and problems.

     

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonatherton/yufu-the-stylus-perfected-press ure-sensitive-fine

     

    Read the comments!

    I "purchased" one of these a year, ago, plus donated to his Kickstarter campaign, and I am STILL waiting for his finished stylus product!

    Many others have been waiting closer to 2 years!!!!

     

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Nov 17, 2015 11:44 AM in response to deggie
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    Nov 17, 2015 11:44 AM in response to deggie

    I would not call that being optimistic which carries an element of hope with it but wishful dreaming instead.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 11:50 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Nov 17, 2015 11:50 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Not at all, you're thinking.  Thinking is a good practice that too many people attempt to avoid in life (to be clear, this statement is in no way directed at anyone in this conversation). Critical Thinking even more so.

     

    If you're interested, there's a brief description of how the Wacom digitizers have (possibly still do) captured tilt input. I don't claim to underlying aspects here, but the solution here indicates that the tilt is captured by a sensor grid under the surface (likely in the display, under the LCD screen on the iPad Pro). I would not be the least bit surprised if Apple has mimicked or licensed the same approach.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 12:13 PM in response to deggie
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    Nov 17, 2015 12:13 PM in response to deggie

    deggie wrote:

     

    This must be why Apple is doing so poorly financially.

    I never said that Apple was doing poorly financially. Now you're trying to put words in my mouth. Their previous successes with the general consumer are well advertised, but it's also noted that their sales are lagging as of late.

     

    deggie wrote:

     

     

    On the PC side of things (which includes multiple manufacturers) the same hardware upgrade situation does happen with some companies. But Microsoft is a virtual slave to backwards compatibility leading to the continues reliance on the Register in Windows and the continued security problems which apparently a lot of places prefer. I doubt any workplace has gone back to PCs due to the Apple Pencil or similar situations and Apple never got much of a foothold in the business world with the Mac anyways.

    You seem to be confusing backwards compatibility with security issues.

    "Backwards compatibility" is a capability of newer and updated software/operating systems that allows older hardware and software to run.

    "Continued security problems" are what organizations experience when they refuse to upgrade their software/operating systems.

     

    Microsoft is not alone in having to release security patches, Apple products are in the same boat. There is malware and exploits out there that Apple has had to release updates for. You'll notice how long it has been since Apple has ran an "I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC" advert? It's because they're no longer true.

     

    And you can doubt all you want about workplaces switching, I work at one, and I know couple others who have been through that transition as well.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 12:20 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Nov 17, 2015 12:20 PM in response to MichelPM

    MichelPM wrote:

     

    If you are really an expert on technologies and, specifically, stylus/input device technologies, maybe you should give this person some real help.

    HE REALLY NEEDS IT BADLY

    Maybe you can help him out with his issues and problems.

     

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonatherton/yufu-the-stylus-perfected-press ure-sensitive-fine

     

    Read the comments!

    I "purchased" one of these a year, ago, plus donated to his Kickstarter campaign, and I am STILL waiting for his finished stylus product!

    Many others have been waiting closer to 2 years!!!!

     

    I'm not at all an expert in Stylus tech, I'm just mildly knowledgeable because I've followed the tech for so long. Also, I cannot read most of the comments on that page as they're listed as "backer only", and I'm not likely to support a project that is already so far behind schedule

  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Nov 17, 2015 12:21 PM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 12:21 PM in response to BobFrankly

    BobFrankly wrote:

    , but it's also noted that their sales are lagging as of late.

     

     

    Tablet sales in general have tanked - http://www.businessinsider.com/tablet-sales-down-in-addition-to-ipad-2015-10

    and some brands and makes by far more than the iPad. It's a general trend across the entire tablet market.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Nov 17, 2015 12:24 PM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 12:24 PM in response to BobFrankly

    I'm quite familiar with backwards compatibility and security problems. As Windows 10 still uses the Register it will continue to have security issues and will keep the antispyware/antivirus/antimalware industry busy.

     

    Yes, Apple has had security updates when potential breaches were discovered but there is currently no viruses/malware/spyware in the wild for Apple. If you are saying there are the same number for Windows that is just laughable and takes you from beyond optimistic to living in some alternative universe. Or you are one of that say if Apple has one piece of malware and Windows has 100,000 then that is equivalent.

     

    The I'm a Mac campaign had run its course it had nothing to do with security. Everything in them is still pretty much true.

    So where do you work that there was an enterprise installation of Macs and they switched to a PC network? What type of business? Can you name more than 5 that have done this? And you did see the recent financial report from Apple where they exceeded their sales estimates? Or did that slip completely by you?

     

    You have now gone far afield from the Apple Pencil for iPad Pro. Fact is currently that device only works with the iPad Pro as the name states. You can send feedback to Apple asking for a new one to be developed for other iPads. Or you can see what happens in the future with new models of the iPad.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 1:04 PM in response to deggie
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:04 PM in response to deggie

    deggie wrote:

     

    I'm quite familiar with backwards compatibility and security problems. As Windows 10 still uses the Register it will continue to have security issues and will keep the antispyware/antivirus/antimalware industry busy.

    It's curious that you're focused on the Windows Registry as a security problem. The registry is not a security hole, the registry is something that is attacked AFTER a security hole is penetrated. The Windows Registry is akin to the XML plists that Apple uses, not a security hole, but a target AFTER penetration is successful.

    deggie wrote:

     

    Yes, Apple has had security updates when potential breaches were discovered but there is currently no viruses/malware/spyware in the wild for Apple. If you are saying there are the same number for Windows that is just laughable and takes you from beyond optimistic to living in some alternative universe. Or you are one of that say if Apple has one piece of malware and Windows has 100,000 then that is equivalent.

     

    And how many do you think are in the wild for the current release of Windows 10? If you think that number even comes close to 100,000, then you're still confusing things. The biggest vulnerabilities as of late have come from software installed on BOTH operating systems, namely Java and Flash. Trying to put Apple on a security pedestal while pushing down Windows had it's day, but that was nearly a decade ago. Things have changed.

     

    deggie wrote:

     

    The I'm a Mac campaign had run its course it had nothing to do with security. Everything in them is still pretty much true.

    So where do you work that there was an enterprise installation of Macs and they switched to a PC network? What type of business? Can you name more than 5 that have done this? And you did see the recent financial report from Apple where they exceeded their sales estimates? Or did that slip completely by you?

     

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/10/27/apple-earnings-revenue-up-q4/74535 100/

    Quoted from article: "The narrative of any quarter for Apple starts and ends with iPhone sales. It accounts for nearly two-thirds of Apple’s revenue and an even larger portion of its profits."..."Apple’s fourth-quarter results — traditionally, its second-weakest of the calendar year — included iPhone 6S and 6S Plus shipments in China in September. Last year, Apple waited until December to make the iPhone 5S and 5C available in China."


    So you're arguing that I must be wrong about computers because Apple sold a ton of phones in China after releasing them earlier this year?  Again, I don't take the simple explanation, I like to look deeper. Also I work in education, which has historically been an Apple stronghold.

    deggie wrote:

     

     

    You have now gone far afield from the Apple Pencil for iPad Pro. Fact is currently that device only works with the iPad Pro as the name states. You can send feedback to Apple asking for a new one to be developed for other iPads. Or you can see what happens in the future with new models of the iPad.

    I followed you through a path you didn't expect me to be knowledgeable on, and upon finding me knowledgeable, you want me to take the blame for us ending up here. That's not happening.

     

    I can agree that the Pencil currently only works with the iPad Pro though.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Nov 17, 2015 1:14 PM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:14 PM in response to BobFrankly

    The Registry is itself a security risk and a stumbling block to improving Windows along with several other legacy designs. It will not take long for newer forms of legacy spyware/viruses/malware to appear.

     

    It really doesn't matter when they started or ended the sales, they still increased their sales when you said they lagged. Then you went and looked for an additional story. But their sales still increased whatever that rage USAToday says.

     

    You have now become a bore so I'm bowing out at this point. Please go find some Windows boards to play on.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 1:29 PM in response to deggie
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:29 PM in response to deggie

    The registry is fine, you have yet to point out anything specific outside of your personal distaste for it. Newer forms of spyware/viruses/malware appear all the time, for both platforms. Legacy means older and outdated (unpatched), you don't need newer versions to attack legacy because the old ones work fine (again, because the vulnerabilites remain unpatched).

     

    Michael Black caught the tablet context of my comment that you missed. I brought facts (or "looked for an additional story" as you like to put it) where you chose to promote notions.

     

    I apologize that you're bored with people you can't bully into submission. Please do your research next time before you choose to pick on someone.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC Nov 17, 2015 1:41 PM in response to deggie
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:41 PM in response to deggie

    deggie wrote:

     

    SNIP

     

    The I'm a Mac campaign had run its course it had nothing to do with security. Everything in them is still pretty much true.

     

    SNIP

     

    [chuckle]

     

    Four years and 66 ads is plenty, methinks > http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/apples-get-mac-complete-campaign-130552

  • by carl wolf,

    carl wolf carl wolf Nov 17, 2015 1:49 PM in response to BobFrankly
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:49 PM in response to BobFrankly

    "donated to his Kickstarter campaign, and I am STILL waiting for his finished stylus product!"

     

    Now you understand the latest internet scam.

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 1:53 PM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:53 PM in response to ChitlinsCC

    ChitlinsCC wrote:

     

    deggie wrote:

     

    SNIP

     

    The I'm a Mac campaign had run its course it had nothing to do with security. Everything in them is still pretty much true.

     

    SNIP

     

    [chuckle]

     

    Four years and 66 ads is plenty, methinks > http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/apples-get-mac-complete-campaign-130552

    Thanks for posting that. Allows me to point out 5,12, 23, 53, and 58

  • by BobFrankly,

    BobFrankly BobFrankly Nov 17, 2015 1:55 PM in response to carl wolf
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    Nov 17, 2015 1:55 PM in response to carl wolf

    carl wolf wrote:

     

    "donated to his Kickstarter campaign, and I am STILL waiting for his finished stylus product!"

     

    Now you understand the latest internet scam.

    I think you meant this response to MichelPM. I was merely responding to his comment.

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