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Nov 2, 2015 12:09 PM in response to k_ryanby Derick Fay,Nope, none.
I did figure out that plugging / unplugging the lightning cable also resets the ability to drag and drop, which is faster than unpairing via the Bluetooth prefs. And I filed a bug report.
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Nov 5, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Kevin Callahanby Jose In AZ,Wow, I thought I was going crazy with the drag and drop. I do a lot of drag and drop in list view and finder. I had to go into accessibilities and turn on 3 finder drag and drop just to do that.
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Nov 13, 2015 2:49 AM in response to Derick Fayby mjrippon,I have found the same. I use a 15" retina display MBP. The old trackpad worked perfectly but I fancied the larger size of the new one (I wasn't convinced about the usefulness of Force Click). I found I could not reliably drag and drop. I "disconnected" the trackpad via the Bluetooth menu, switched the track pad off at the back, plugged it in to my Mac to re-pair it, switched it back on at which point it re-paired almost instantly. That was a couple of hours ago and drag and drop has been working perfectly since.
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Nov 18, 2015 3:56 PM in response to mjripponby seyedhossein110,El capitan 10.11.1
system preference / trackpad/point & click
uncheck force click and haptic feedback
try drag and drop
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Nov 22, 2015 6:03 PM in response to Kevin Callahanby arw54,★Helpfulfrom MacWorld online magazine:
To enable three-finger drag, head to System Preferences > Accessibility > Mouse & Trackpad, and click Trackpad Options. Click the box for Enable Dragging, and select three-finger drag. Thanks to this feature, I’m tapping over clicking almost exclusively, which should be better for my hands, plus reduce the number of accidental Force Clicks.
Hope this helps
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Nov 27, 2015 9:46 AM in response to poil66by Tim Hill1,I've done a lot of testing, and can confirm the following:
The trackpad appears to reset back to "light" click under some circumstances (not determined the exact cause), regardless of the setting in System Preferences (in fact, it might even be a "super light setting that is not visible on the options). This makes it impossible to do drag+drop type operations since even the lightest touch triggers a Force Click and then you are in Quick Look etc land.
The fix for this (for some reason) is connecting the trackpad to the laptop via the charging cable, which apparently resets the click pressure to that set in System Preferences.
--Tim
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Nov 27, 2015 12:10 PM in response to Tim Hill1by commodorecrush,I agree with you on one thing, it works far better when plugged in. I have so many issues with lag and the pointer skipping around my screen while using bluetooth connection that it's become unusable unless it's plugged directly into my macbook. The 1st generation worked flawlessly. What's the deal here, Apple? Sheesh.
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Nov 27, 2015 12:29 PM in response to commodorecrushby MalenySteve,Mine seems to be working okay now. It was, for me, more about me learning to use it correctly. I agree however that the style of finger movement and pressure has to be quite accurate. I don't think Apple did enough testing with the wider community of all finger sizes and with people of different skin types. Some people get sweaty hands, other don't, etc etc... I user the bottom right corner for the alternate click.
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Nov 28, 2015 12:23 PM in response to poil66by James Hassinger,Don't know if this will help, but I was having the same problem, but when I went to the Tablet preferences in System Preferences, I found somehow I had unchecked the two-finger click, which is part of a one-to-three-finger "tap and click". One-finger click, change slides, etc. One finger click and hold, drag the file or folder where you want. Two-finger press and hold, pop to preview on an icon. Two finger click now gives me the right-click menu, and a three finger tap gives me the data detector view. Once it works for you, you get the feel.
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Nov 28, 2015 3:50 PM in response to Kevin Callahanby msinykin1,I spent some time with multiple Magic Trackpad 2's at a Genius Bar, and think I understand the issue, which is in software, not hardware.
First of all, if you can live without force click (which doesn't do much yet), turning it off in System Preferences > Trackpad will make this issue go away.
To understand the problem, make sure force click is on, pick something to drag (e.g., a Finder Icon), and do the following:
Press with your thumb just hard enough to get a regular click; you should then be able to drag with your finger. Now start again and gradually press harder, but not hard enough to generate a force click. As you press harder, you will see the selected icon start to grow larger and throb in size. This is apparently supposed to be a hint that if you press even harder to get a force touch, the icon will expand into a Quick Look. Unfortunately, as soon as you have engaged this feedback, your finger will no longer perform a drag. When working at a normal speed, pressing just a little harder than a normal click will disable the dragging before you even see the throbbing start.
I think Apple should fix the driver so that dragging still works until you actually engage the force click.
For now, workarounds seem to be:
- Turn off force click.
- Learn a different kind of drag, such as the three finger drag described elsewhere in this thread.
- Try to train yourself to push just hard enough to get a click, but not hard enough to initiate the "approaching a force click" feedback.
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Nov 28, 2015 3:58 PM in response to msinykin1by Derick Fay,Well the issue I have is that once the throbbing icon has appeared once, dragging no longer works even if I release that item altogether and try to drag another. I can drag and drop all I want before I've triggered a throbber but after that the trackpad no longer works as expected and has to be disconnected/reconnected. Certainly seems like a driver bug to me.
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Nov 28, 2015 4:29 PM in response to msinykin1by Tim Hill1,msinykin1 wrote:
Press with your thumb just hard enough to get a regular click; you should then be able to drag with your finger. Now start again and gradually press harder, but not hard enough to generate a force click. As you press harder, you will see the selected icon start to grow larger and throb in size. This is apparently supposed to be a hint that if you press even harder to get a force touch, the icon will expand into a Quick Look. Unfortunately, as soon as you have engaged this feedback, your finger will no longer perform a drag. When working at a normal speed, pressing just a little harder than a normal click will disable the dragging before you even see the throbbing start.
Not quite. What's happening to me (and others apparently) is the amount of force need for a Force Click seems to be getting reset to some very very VERY low value, so that it's nearly impossible to do any kind of click without a Force Click occurring. This makes it impossible to do any gesture like drag+drop. Re-connecting the trackpad to the Mac via the lightning cable seems (why i do not know) to reset the force to the setting chosen in System Preferences (I have mine on Medium, the default).
it's pretty dramatic: With it working normally, I can easily (for example) drag an icon around in the Dock. Then, when the trackpad loses its mind, it is quite literally impossible to so this. Plugging in the cable for a moment restores drag+drop (even after the cable is removed) with NO changes to any preferences. I've yet to determine exactly what causes the trackpad to lose it's settings, but this really looks like a firmware bug in the trackpad.
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Nov 28, 2015 4:51 PM in response to Tim Hill1by msinykin1,OK, looks like there are multiple problems. I'm trying to get some friends in Apple Software Engineering to take a look, and will refer them to this thread for details.
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