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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Nov 23, 2015 6:38 PM in response to Katyalatke92
Grant Bennet-Alder
Nov 23, 2015 6:38 PM
in response to Katyalatke92
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DesktopsHold down the Option key while you start up and see if there is any drive that has Recovery in its name. If there is, select that and it will boot up some Utilities including Disk Utility that can be used to check/repair your hard drive.
If nothing comes up you need an older DVD for a MacBook Pro pre-2011, or start up again and hold Command-Option-R for a MacBook Pro newer than 2011.
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Nov 24, 2015 10:07 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby Katyalatke92,Thanks. So far after trying a few suggestions I found, it seems the Option key worked to get things started. it seems I ruined my hard drive though because my only option after that was to erase it. Now I guess I will have to buy a new one? It says I can't use it to re-install OS X...?
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,★HelpfulNov 24, 2015 10:30 AM in response to Katyalatke92
Grant Bennet-Alder
Nov 24, 2015 10:30 AM
in response to Katyalatke92
Level 9 (60,904 points)
DesktopsBOOTing from a Hard drive is much more difficult than reading data files from a hard drive. Mac OS X itself represents over 350,000 files on your hard drive, while the files you created and cannot reproduce through a fresh Install probably number only in the hundreds.
If your drive will not perk up after a Disk Utility (Repair Disk [directory]) you may indeed need a new drive. Don't be in a hurry to erase the old drive -- you may be able to salvage files off it later. If you have Trusted Backup, you have many more options for restoring your old files.
If you were able to run "regular" Recovery (as opposed to Internet recovery) there is still a working Recovery/Utilities partition on your old drive. When you get a new drive, get an enclosure or adapter to run it as an External, and you can use the old Recovery to Install the new Mac OS X on the new drive.
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Nov 24, 2015 10:39 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby Katyalatke92,Unfortunately, I was not able to run any regular recovery, it went straight to internet recovery... And after trying all other options, only erasing and re-installing were left., being that I was never wise enough to back up anything... So, one last thing. Do I need an external hard drive to re-install OS X? Thanks.
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Nov 24, 2015 12:02 PM in response to Katyalatke92by my ginger,Hi. Did you run disk utilities in recovery and if told you the dive was not repairable? If the drive is not physically damaged you might be able to erase the indented drive in disk utilities an go back to recovery and select the reinstall option. I would do this using a ethernet connection. If it will not reinstall and the drive is damaged, then you will need to replace it. Then reinstall the operating system. Doing this depend on what year and model Macbook Pro you have.
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Nov 24, 2015 1:09 PM in response to Katyalatke92
Grant Bennet-Alder
Nov 24, 2015 1:09 PM
in response to Katyalatke92
Level 9 (60,904 points)
DesktopsThe reason I suggest a new drive, stored temporarily in an external enclosure, is that is separates the Installation and running issues (which are perfectly doable on a Drive in an External enclosure) from the drive-swap surgery issues.
If you had been able to access the on-disk Recovery, it is often easier to do the Install from there onto the new drive as an external drive. But this does not apply in your case because your "regular" on-disk Recovery was not readable. Luckily, your Mac is new enough to use Internet Recovery. Those from pre-2011 can not do Internet Recovery.
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Nov 24, 2015 2:19 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby my ginger,Grant Thats not entirely true about pre 2011. it depends on the year and model. I have a 2010 early Macbook running Yosemite and I have internet recovery. Some 2008 models with Maverick or Yosemite can use internet recovery.
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Nov 24, 2015 3:19 PM in response to my gingerby Grant Bennet-Alder,Some computers that did not come with OS X Lion or later installed can use the OS X Internet Recovery feature after applying a firmware update:
- MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
- MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011)
- iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011)
- iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011)
- MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2010)
- MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010)
- Mac mini (Mid 2010)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch and 17-inch, Mid 2010)
- iMac (21.5-inch and 27-inch, Mid 2010)
- MacBook Air (11-inch and 13-inch, Late 2010)
from:
Computers that can be upgraded to use OS X Internet Recovery - Apple Support
from memory, I can remember computers from around 2011 could include this feature, and older ones could not.
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Nov 30, 2015 9:10 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby Katyalatke92,OK, this may seem stupid, but the hard drive says not to remove the screws or the plastic tape stuff because of the warranty. I'm not sure if I should ignore that and go ahead and replace the HD or try to contact Apple about replacing it first... Not sure if I would have to send it somewhere or something... Any ideas?
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Nov 30, 2015 9:15 PM in response to Katyalatke92by leroydouglas,If you are under warranty or not you can get a free over the counter diagnostic.
'Apple Service Diagnostics' test
Genius reservation http://www.apple.com/retail/geniusbar/
on-line https://getsupport.apple.com/GetproductgroupList.action
check warranty https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do
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Nov 30, 2015 9:44 PM in response to Katyalatke92by my ginger,Did you remove the hard drive from the Macbook Pro? Or are you talking about the screws on the Macbook? Do not take the hard drive apart. It cannot be fixed in that way. Do you have an external hard drive. If you do you can install the operating system on it by using recovery as long as you leave the one in the Macbook pro ,in the Macbook Pro. Reinstalling the operating system through internet recovery, may or may not work. There is an arm inside the hard drive, not unlike the arm on a record player. If it scratched the disk when dropped you might not be able to erase and reinstall.
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Dec 9, 2015 9:25 AM in response to my gingerby Katyalatke92,I have not removed anything but the screws off the bottom of my Macbook Pro and I do not have an external HD on me now. From what I have tried ( internet recovery was the only option that worked and it was not able to recover anything) I am guessing the HD was most likely scratched ...so went ahead and bought another HD. The thing is, I don't know if the warranty on the HD matters being that I don't even have a receipt from when I bought the notebook. Should I just go ahead and replace the HD? The only other option is to drive 3+ HRS away to get to an Apple store... I guess that is a stupid question though. (I am really new to all this stuff.)
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Dec 9, 2015 9:28 AM in response to leroydouglasby Katyalatke92,Thanks.
So far, I can't check my warranty, being that I lost my receipt and the online support is not available or sends me to something else. I think my best bet may be to try the genius reservation. It will just be a little ways away... Nearest store is 3+ HRS away.
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Dec 9, 2015 9:46 AM in response to Katyalatke92by Grant Bennet-Alder,All 2.5" drives are strictly rectangular, with nothing protruding beyond that rectangular solid. Anything that sticks out beyond that is added for ease of mounting.
On some MacBooks, there are screws added to the drive that stick out on the sides. These may be used as mounting posts. On some drives, electrically-insulating tape is applied to the drive to keep from shorting out things on the drive's face against the metal inside the MacBook.
Screws that hold the drive together often have heads with unusual shapes, such as star-heads. These are used to keep you from dis-assembling the drive by mistake.