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Q: I watch causing Wrist and arm numbing and pain?

Hi everyone,

 

i'm on day 6 of using my i watch, which i love, however for the past 4/5 days is have been experiencing numbing and a tingling sensation on my arm.

It's actually very painful on my wrist at this point.

I decided, on day 4, to try it on my right arm. About 2 hours later I started experiencing the same thing.

I own the Stainless Steel I watch with the Milanese Loop.

 

Was wondering if anyone else experienced the same thing?

Although I absolutely love it because it has been very helpful for me in the gym I think i will be returning it.

 

Would like to hear anyone else's input.

 

Thanks

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Posted on May 6, 2015 7:10 AM

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  • by ChrisJ4203,

    ChrisJ4203 ChrisJ4203 Dec 27, 2015 9:32 PM in response to Joshua Morganstein
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    Dec 27, 2015 9:32 PM in response to Joshua Morganstein

    Joshua Morganstein wrote:

     

    Only more extensive examination of the issue has any potential to reveal commonalities or causality.

    That is correct, which is why KiltedTim said to see the Dr. Since the only transmission from the Apple Watch is low power Bluetooth, which is even lower power than that of a cellular phone, the problem could not be attributed to emissions, it would need to be something about the person, which is why you would ask a doctor.

  • by Joshua Morganstein,

    Joshua Morganstein Joshua Morganstein Dec 27, 2015 9:51 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Dec 27, 2015 9:51 PM in response to KiltedTim

    No they are not. They may be symptoms of cubital tunnel syndrome but not carpal tunnel which essentially never involves the little finger. Cubital tunnel syndrome would involve activities at the elbow but would be extraordinarily unlikely to result from a watch band. While it is possible that wearing a watch could cause carpal tunnel, the band would have to be extraordinarily tight, for individuals with standard anatomy, to apply enough pressure on an ongoing basis that might result in persistent symptoms of carpal tunnel. It's amazing how confidently you are repeatedly dispensing faulty medical information.

  • by Joshua Morganstein,

    Joshua Morganstein Joshua Morganstein Dec 27, 2015 9:57 PM in response to ChrisJ4203
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    Dec 27, 2015 9:57 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

    I'm board certified in both family medicine and psychiatry. A doctor will attempt to do what several of you are doing, which is to go down a laundry list of diagnoses with which they are familiar. Once that is exhausted, they will start talking about psychosomatic issues. For a period of time many decades ago, the medical profession thought asthma was caused by overbearing mothers. Obviously, we now understand that is not the case. Mechanical causes such as compression, new patterns of physical use of the wrist and arm and other potential causes are quite realistic. Insisting those are the only possibilities other than a mental health disorder is preposterous.

  • by ChrisJ4203,

    ChrisJ4203 ChrisJ4203 Dec 27, 2015 10:02 PM in response to Joshua Morganstein
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    Dec 27, 2015 10:02 PM in response to Joshua Morganstein

    At no time did I insist anything at all. What I did say that it needed to be diagnosed by a doctor. I will say this has nothing to do with transmitting radiation and all of that. I tend to believe that most of the issues are caused by the change in usage patterns from people that did not wear watches before this, to people that are doing repetitive motion by swinging the watch up often to look at it. So I can agree with some of your thoughts.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Dec 28, 2015 5:27 AM in response to Joshua Morganstein
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    Dec 28, 2015 5:27 AM in response to Joshua Morganstein

    Joshua Morganstein wrote:

     

    You have a very concrete and slightly warped understanding of how the human body works. Your persistent efforts to tell people they have an underlying medical condition and blind insistence that a new, untested en masse electronic device, worn in intimate proximity to the body could not be causing the problem de novo are total rubbish.

    I suggest you educate yourself. The idea that 'emissions' from personal electronic devices can cause symptoms such as those described has been proven to be complete bunk.

     

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  • by Joshua Morganstein,

    Joshua Morganstein Joshua Morganstein Dec 28, 2015 7:48 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Dec 28, 2015 7:48 AM in response to KiltedTim

    In support of your assertion, I assume you can offer a research citation disproving that the use of the Apple Watch can cause pain in the wrists and forearms? There has been much study about cell phone use and cancer risk. Literature on bluetooth, in isolation, has also found little in the way of human safety concerns. It is certainly wise for those concerned to avail themselves regarding what appears to be known at the present time regarding health risks associated with various technologies. However, watches are not phones or bluetooth headsets. In general, a watch will spend orders of magnitude greater time in direct proximity to skin than a phone. Moreso, perhaps, since the advent of bluetooth technology to reduce time spent holding a phone to the head. What has not been studied are the potential adverse effects that may result from the combination of transmitting wifi and bluetooth back and forth from watch to phone in a perpetual and ongoing manner, continuous and extended exposure to various light frequencies, and the physical substances out of which the Apple Watch is made. All the commentary noted by a few vocal opponents about each single entity alone (bluetooth, light, ceramic material, etc) and subsequently using this to dismiss the idea of potential harm an Apple Watch is myopic and inconsequential. Apple Watch wearers are not being exposed to a single entity but, rather, a combination of all these things in perpetual and intimate proximity to the body. Attempts to extrapolate research about cell phone cancer risk, health risks of bluetooth devices, or even the science behind non-ionizing radiation to make concrete statements about the potential health risk of an Apple Watch are short-sighted because they are only single pieces of a larger Apple Watch device that is interacting with an extraordinarily complex human body.

     

    Those who have persistent pain that is not relieved by changing the band or adjusting their physical activity should consider that the constellation of technology within an Apple Watch (or any other smartwatch) kept in close proximity to their body may, in fact, be producing the symptoms. Those who insult you, insist this is impossible, or otherwise dismiss expressed concerns are not healthcare professionals. It would be hard to believe they are actually scientists of any kind as the field of science is predicated upon the notion of opening ones mind, rather than closing it, to possibilities. It is also wise to bear in mind that no research study, regardless of how robust and well-constructed, can inform on the individual experiences of all. It will merely provide greater or lesser degrees of confidence regarding associations or, more rarely, causality. Respected researchers will reiterate this fact as people attempt to draw conclusions from their research (typically to perpetuate an individual or institutional agenda) that simply cannot be made. The broad and sweeping dismissal of a potential association that has never been studied in its full form (i.e.; the Apple Watch and wrist pain) is truly the most unscientific aspect of this thread, seems to be done by a few posters primarily as a means of demonstrating intellectual superiority, and should be shunned.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Dec 28, 2015 8:14 AM in response to Joshua Morganstein
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    Dec 28, 2015 8:14 AM in response to Joshua Morganstein

    Joshua Morganstein wrote:

     

    There has been much study about cell phone use and cancer risk.

    And, the result of all of those studies, taken as a whole, to date, is that there is no increase in risk of cancer from the non-ionizing radiation put out by cell phones. Best scientific evidence would suggest that EM radiation from the watch is not likely to be a problem. But, science is always acquiring more information. Unfortunately, the overlap between doctors and scientists is not 100%.

     

    What pretty much everyone here has said is, "If the watch is causing your pain, go see a doctor. Don't self-diagnose based on scaremongering stories and bad science."

  • by Twestry,

    Twestry Twestry Dec 28, 2015 8:14 PM in response to Mstattedcanvas
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    Dec 28, 2015 8:14 PM in response to Mstattedcanvas

    I am having the same experience. I purchased the Apple Watch Sport (antique white) on December 23. After only wearing it for about half an hour or less I notice a deep tingling and then a slight pain in my arm. I thought I was crazy. I switch to my right arm and within minutes the same thing started to happened. The longer I wear it the higher the tingling and pain/discomfort goes up my arm, all the way to my shoulders and neck. I loosened the band....no change. I stopped wearing it for 4 days, put it back on today and it starts all over again. I found your post after searching the web to see what I could find and if anyone else is experiencing the same thing. I plan on retuning the watch. Nothing I've done stops the sensation. I'm really disappointed because I LOVE the watch and I am a loyal user of many Apply products, I love the company and the brand. I don't know what could be causing this. I've tried to force myself to wear the watch all day and HOPE that I don't feel anything because I want to keep it so badly, but I can't ignore the pain/discomfort. I just wanted to respond to your post to let you know that you aren't the only one.

  • by BSLTRL,

    BSLTRL BSLTRL Dec 30, 2015 11:34 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Dec 30, 2015 11:34 AM in response to KiltedTim

    It is obvious you don't understand the realm of particle duality and sub-atomic particles. My Sony watch even came with a warning stating that it emits radiation and could possibly harm you, actual verbiage, 

     

    "Radio Frequency Exposure: Your transmitting device is a radio transmitter and receiver. When in operation, it communicates with a transmitting equipped mobile device by receiving and transmitting radio frequency (RF) electromagnetic fields (microwaves) in the frequency range 2400 to 2500 MHz. These transmissions have been known to cause health issues in certain individuals."

     

    So keep believing that its not the device causing the issues people are having. Your body may react differently, but not everyone is the same.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Dec 30, 2015 11:45 AM in response to BSLTRL
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    Dec 30, 2015 11:45 AM in response to BSLTRL

    BSLTRL wrote:

     

    So keep believing that its not the device causing the issues people are having. Your body may react differently, but not everyone is the same.

    No one has said that it's not the device. What we have said it isn't from radio frequency radiation.

     

    I'm amazed that no one has tried the obvious test. Put the watch in Airplane mode. That will turn off all radios. Do the symptoms go away?

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Dec 30, 2015 1:22 PM in response to BSLTRL
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    Dec 30, 2015 1:22 PM in response to BSLTRL

    BSLTRL wrote:

     

    It is obvious you don't understand the realm of particle duality and sub-atomic particles.

     

    So keep believing that its not the device causing the issues people are having. Your body may react differently, but not everyone is the same.

    Are you serious?

    I don't know what you've been smoking, but you really need to reconsider your life choices, and stop skimming science articles in the news and picking out random phrases you think you can put to good use when trolling Internet forums.

  • by doc_vader,

    doc_vader doc_vader Dec 30, 2015 1:50 PM in response to Mstattedcanvas
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    Dec 30, 2015 1:50 PM in response to Mstattedcanvas

    I have been experiencing the same thing. I am a physician assistant and I have a numb/tingling sensation in my left arm, mostly in my upper arm, biceps area, it can be very painful. didn't start until I got my watch. I've loosened up, tried switching hands, but I'm right handed and I lose a lot of the function when i try and write on it or use it with my non dominant hand. No carpal tunnel type pain in my wrist or fingers.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Dec 30, 2015 1:52 PM in response to doc_vader
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    Dec 30, 2015 1:52 PM in response to doc_vader

    So have you talked with the physician you work for about this?

  • by BSLTRL,

    BSLTRL BSLTRL Dec 30, 2015 9:32 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Dec 30, 2015 9:32 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    If you put the watch in airplane mode does it not stop the radio transmissions from taking place? Thus ceasing radio electromagnetic waves from being received (though even then not completely)? It may minimize the amount of electromagnetic waves a person is receiving but its not worth the plethora of health issues that can be caused by the adjusting a person polarization. Answering your question about carrying a cell phone, yes I do, but I don't have it affixed to my body 24/7...in fact it normally isn't within 15 feet of me throughout the day, except when I am talking on it, which is for a matter of minutes and not hours like many other people.

     

    There are many things to think about with these watches and ZERO research has been completed:

     

    -What medical issues does a person currently have? Medications and certain ailments may make a person more susceptible to the frequencies that are being emitted by the watches.

    -Location of the nearest transmission tower, the closer the tower the more frequency you are to receive.

    -What phone are you paired with, most phones emit a different amount of electromagnetic frequency, some more than others.

    -What is your profession, some professions work with these EM's frequently. However not mine.

    -Where is your location in the world, certain location have different varying polarization and could potentially increase the frequency based on where you live.

     

    Not to mention several other things I will spare you with.

     

    Just because you are one person that doesn't have an issue with your watch doesn't mean other don't...look at it that way.

  • by BSLTRL,

    BSLTRL BSLTRL Dec 30, 2015 9:52 PM in response to ChrisJ4203
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    Dec 30, 2015 9:52 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

    READ the WARNINGS when you buy things that transmit any type of wave...bluetooth or otherwise.

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