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Q: Remote access? "other" user shows up in Excel file

My husband is using Excel 2008 for Mac on his mini. Today, he created a new Excel file, and when he went to save it, it would not allow him to do so. After I told him to try "Get Info", he saw that there was another user "wheel" (FIRST HMMMM???) listed as having access. Neither of us use that name. The permissions were set to Read and Write.

 

I was able, even though I did not have to open the lock, to remove that user, and change the permissions of the "Everybody". Still without having to open the lock.

 

I did open the lock using his password, and made another change, then saved and closed the file.

 

I went into his Security and Privacy and found that the Firewall had been turned off. I turned that on, without having to open the lock. (NOT sure WHY I didn't have to open the lock! - SECOND HMMMM????)

 

So, I changed his password, closed everything, and restarted the computer.

 

No more "wheel" on anything, yet. Permissions are correct, so far.

 

HOW do I tell if someone has remotely gained access to his computer? Does this appear to be that someone gained remote access?

Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Dec 29, 2015 9:16 AM

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  • by candeefrommason city,

    candeefrommason city candeefrommason city Jan 2, 2016 8:31 PM in response to candeefrommason city
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    Jan 2, 2016 8:31 PM in response to candeefrommason city

    Nobody? No ideas?

  • by BobHarris,Helpful

    BobHarris BobHarris Jan 3, 2016 3:03 PM in response to candeefrommason city
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    Jan 3, 2016 3:03 PM in response to candeefrommason city

    "wheel" is an administer group.  It comes from the Unix world and stands for "Big Wheel" as in someone that is important, a boss, someone in control, etc...

    <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+Wheel>

     

    It is not someone getting into your system.

     

    If you are the admin account, then your "ARE" a member of the "wheel" group, so you have the right to mess with files in the "wheel" group.  If your husband is a "Standard" user, he is not part of the "wheel" group.

     

    Now why the file or folder your husband was trying to save a file to had "wheel" as a group owner, that is a different question, but "wheel" is not some remote user, and you have not been hacked.

     

    With respect to firewalls, if your Mac mini is at home behind a home WiFi router (often times provided by your ISP, but it could be your own), then the Firewall is not needed, as your home router is acting as a Firewall between you and the Internet.

     

    Again, I do not think you have been hacked, and as I've explained, "wheel" is a standard OS X group associated with Administrators.

     

    As an example of "wheel" usage, the following is a Terminal ls -lG of the top of my file system (yours would look similar)

    Screen Shot 2016-01-03 at 10.30.41 AM.png

    Notice that most of the files and directories (folders) have "wheel" as their group, and "root" as the owner (root is the most powerful account on any Unix based operating system, which is why the files and directories at the top of the file system are owned by "root").

  • by candeefrommason city,

    candeefrommason city candeefrommason city Jan 3, 2016 3:08 PM in response to BobHarris
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    Jan 3, 2016 3:08 PM in response to BobHarris

    THANK you! I really appreciate your answer/reply. Puts me at ease.

     

    As to why this happened, I don't know. I do know that this machine is being taxed, and we are getting ready to switch to our more powerful iMac. At any rate, I won't worry so much about the mysterious "wheel" any more!

  • by BobHarris,Helpful

    BobHarris BobHarris Jan 11, 2016 9:26 AM in response to candeefrommason city
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    Jan 11, 2016 9:26 AM in response to candeefrommason city

    I do know that this machine is being taxed, and we are getting ready to switch to our more powerful iMac.

    I have an even older Mac mini with a basic OS X install, and it provides backups for the other systems in my home.  I've attached extra USB storage, and I run the "free" version of CrashPlan.  CrashPlan allows me to  network backup across the internet my laptop, my Wife's laptop(s), and my Mom's iMac (300 miles away).  Very useful to me when I'm away from home (such as on vacation), I'm still getting backuped.  The connections are encrypted, so nothing is going anywhere in the clear.

     

    Just a thought for something to do with the old Mac mini.

     

    Another thought is that maybe you have accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, and maybe some house cleaning would improve the Mac mini's performance.  If you can run Mountain Lion (10.8), you can run El Capitan on that Mac mini.  You could post the EtreCheck output and someone in the forum will most likely look at it to see if they see any thing that could be affecting your performance.

    <https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6174>

     

    Also you could run Applications -> Utilities -> Activity Monitor.  Start it, then ignore it for awhile and use your Mac mini as normal.  Then go back and look at the various tabs.  The "Energy" tab might show you apps that seem to be hogging resources and a candidate to be removed.

     

    Also look at Applications -> Utilities -> Console and see if there are any log entries that show a process starting, dying, starting, dying, starting, ....  Sometimes a 3rd party addition add in a previous OS X release is not compatible with your current OS X release, and its start/die cycle could be draining resoruces making your system slow.

  • by candeefrommason city,

    candeefrommason city candeefrommason city Jan 11, 2016 9:28 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Jan 11, 2016 9:28 AM in response to BobHarris

    Thanks for the tips, BobHarris.

     

    I "think" we have it running correctly, now. Did a dump of his trash (for some reason, he "forgets" to do that!), updated Safari (although, I'm not sure why that would help), got rid of a few extraneous apps, and it seems to be going along fine, now.

     

    THANK you!