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Jan 3, 2016 11:21 AM in response to mandrieuby CarlAnders,I interpret it as they took this issues seriously...
But I agree, I've seen this issues in several forums so they must be aware of this issues since early after product launch...
Also please see my answer to edivon.
Let's do some more exorcism... maybe it works?
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Jan 3, 2016 1:02 PM in response to CarlAndersby mandrieu,Well, not because I had any expectations, but I just tried again. I did a system Restore, e.g. restored back to factory settings. So after I reinstalled the apps, manually re-entered all the (blip!) usernames and passwords, all A, B and C issues remain. Not fun... Please send my regards to your senior support guy... LOL
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Jan 3, 2016 1:16 PM in response to edivonby Tom Meade1,Are you sure you're playing a slideshow vs. the screensaver? The only
sure way to begin the former is through Start Slideshow in Computers -
AND when the option to allow the slideshow to be used as screen saver
is presented, say No - as sometimes the screen saver will take over -
and I've found the results of that can be unpredictable, like perpetually
rotating a small subset of photos in the selected album. Good luck, Tom
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Jan 3, 2016 1:15 PM in response to CarlAndersby edivon,First time I did all this it was fine until I installed some apps. Next day I think.
Last time was after the last update (9.1). Then it was still OK after the apps installment. But came back later the same day. -
Jan 3, 2016 1:18 PM in response to Tom Meade1by edivon,Yes, I´m positive. I don´t use the screen saver function. And if it is the screen saver anyway, it still is not OK. :-(
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Jan 3, 2016 1:29 PM in response to edivonby mandrieu,Yes, I'm using the slideshow too, e.g. "Play Slideshow", after selecting Ken Burns and making sure "shuffle" is off
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Jan 3, 2016 2:48 PM in response to mandrieuby Tom Meade1,I don't know whether themes, settings, etc. are stored in caches or not
but a simple method to clear them is to simply power cycle the tv. This
means not just a re-start from the menu but actually pulling the plug!
I do think there can be problems due to lack of storage. Good luck, Tom
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Jan 3, 2016 3:37 PM in response to Tom Meade1by mandrieu,I've power cycled it several times. In fact, I do that every time I want to watch my photo albums: I unplug the Apple TV 4, plug back in my venerable Apple TV 2 and everything works. Now matter how we try to sugar coat it, all these are bugs
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Jan 3, 2016 7:01 PM in response to mandrieuby Tom Meade1,I've added these and woes of my own to Photos Support email. In
the meantime I'm just exporting stuff as a slideshow and hope tv
will play that as rendered. We'll see . . . : - ) Tom
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Jan 4, 2016 1:37 PM in response to edivonby CarlAnders,So... problem C is back and B was not yet solved...
Problem A seems to be gone...
I will keep you informed about any progress...
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Jan 4, 2016 2:20 PM in response to CarlAndersby mandrieu,Hey CarlAnders, what did you do so issue A (the random slides) doesn't happen. What are your slideshow settings? How many photos you have? In my case, I'm using Ken Burns, with dissolve transition, shuffle photos off, repeat off, each slide 3 seconds (or 5 seconds, or 7 seconds. it doesn't seem to matter).
In my case, no matter what I do, all three issues persist.
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Jan 4, 2016 6:22 PM in response to CarlAndersby Tom Meade1,Thanks, Carl - your Reset (All Settings) was effective in fixing my problems
with the tv 3 - which were specifically slideshows reverting to a subset of
the album selected - and just recycling through those to the exclusion of
all the others in an 8,000+ album. Now I'm getting true random themes,
fully shuffled pics, no repeats, etc. Yes it's a chore to re-enter all credentials,
etc. but worth it. Thanks for the explicit presentation of the steps you took.
I realize that your rig is a bit different - and some here are commenting on
slideshows off their iOS but it appears that the same algorithms are getting
corrupted over time. We'll see how long this re-set fix lasts.
Tom
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Jan 6, 2016 6:37 PM in response to Tom Meade1by Apple TV 1 Fan,Apple TV 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation only cache about 100 photos from your iTunes photo home sharing library and then only randomizes those few photos for screensaver and slideshow...duplicates constantly. This problem bug is super annoyingly oblivious in Floating screensaver mode. 1st generation Apple TV is the only unit that truly randomizes all your iTunes home sharing photos because it synced all photo's from your iTunes file to its hard drive for use with screensaver.
This is particularly insanely stupid given the new 4th gen Apple TV has a hard drive with lots of space. An easy software modification could allow the entire home sharing iTunes photo library file to be loaded onto the 4th gen's hard drive and the screensaver program could then truly utilize and randomize all your home photos...just like the 1st gen Apple TV (which has the world's all time best screensaver).
I hope some engineer at Apple will see how stupid the new screensaver operates with home sharing iTunes photo's. I only have about 2000 photos but I know some people have tens of thousands. This is the modern digital age where we all have tonnes and tonnes and tonnes of photos...how is Apple not allowing us to display them in the same awesome manner as the 1st gen Apple TV...I am truly baffled by this one.
I'm returning my Apple TV 4th gen tomorrow (after I was told by Apple Customer Care before purchasing it that it would randomize and display all my home sharing photos in screensaver...wrong! Only about 100-150 per screensaver session).
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Jan 6, 2016 7:01 PM in response to Apple TV 1 Fanby Tom Meade1,Dear TV Fan 1 - that the new unit has a hard drive is news to me - especially
as the two storage options are quoted in units typically associated with flash (32,64).
That being the case, I agree with you that it doesn't seem likely that the "TV" can
store tens of thousands of pics for a slide show. However, my v.3 tv seems happy
showing my 8,000 pic library on a random SS basis - and while I haven't counted,
it seems to reach across the entire spectrum of my library for hours on end w/o
any - or a minimum of duplication. Conclusion: the slideshow is drawing from
iCloud. Why would I think that? Because I can shut my Mac down with no
affect on the show - and the tech specs for V3 don't admit to even ANY
storage - it's a streaming device. My Photos library is almost 70GB -
there's no way an TV could hold it in memory or store it - it must be
streaming from iCloud. That said, I, too was experiencing the same
restriction on displaying all my images - and b/c getting advice on how
the TV actually works is kinda scarce I couldn't fix it until a kind poster on
this board - I think - suggested a re-set. Why that worked I can't say.
Good luck with your efforts to get yours operating as intended. Tom
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Jan 6, 2016 7:27 PM in response to Tom Meade1by Apple TV 1 Fan,Hi Tom,
Thanks for the detailed info. I only say "hard drive" because thats how apple customer care referred to it today...but of course, it's solid state memory. I do understand that playing pictures from the cloud is supposed to then utilize all photos for random display on screensaver. The problem I am noting is in regards to home network sharing of photos from a home computer with iTunes.
Thanks Again!
Matt