SSD install, will not show during OSX install help!

Hi all,


I am currently stuck trying to install a new Samsung SSD into a macbook pro late 2011, after installing the SSD, my bootable USB with El Capital will not show, so i am forced to do a Internet recovery, (Please note that the bootable USB works fine, i formatted my own Macbook 1 month ago with it).


The new SSD shows in Disk utility but when i go to erase the SSD it will either Stall at 50% or give me an error "wiping volume data to prevent future accidental probing failed"


I have then used a SATA > USB cable and formatted it on my own Macbook pro to the correct format, yet it will still not show on OSX install.


Would anyone know what is going on? I have read replacing the SATA cable could fix this issue although when i place the old HDD back in, it works fine.


I am trying to do everything before purchasing a new Cable.


Things to note: the internet recovery is OSX Lion, but the old HDD had Yosemite.

i have used the search function for this and many other websites but with no luck.


Any help would be great thanks 🙂





MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5)

Posted on Jan 7, 2016 5:19 PM

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Jan 7, 2016 6:01 PM in response to anguswd

SSDs are not HDs. Managing it take a new set of rules. I am not pretending to be smarter ... I am learning like everyone else who is willing to pay attention to the actions of others and learn what not to do.


The best course of action right now may be to power it up be leave it "inactive" to let the management-firmware take over for a few hours.


Good luck.

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Jan 7, 2016 6:38 PM in response to anguswd

If you have filled it up with stuff without enabling TRIM, it cannot get rid of anything previously written, so it fills up with "deleted data" until it chokes.


What an SSD needs to work again is to have one free "SuperBlock" in which to write. Sometimes if you can leave it alone, but powered up for 20 to 30 minutes, (sometimes multiple times) it will start an internal "garbage collect" cycle. It tries to combine all the smaller partial empty blocks to get a free SuperBlock. If it can, it may start to respond again, but it is still full-to-bursting.


SSDs assigns data blocks in random order. When you ERASE an SSD, it declare all blocks vacant and the blocks are completely randomized. If you attempt to read back data, you should get an error, or all zeroes.


If you were somehow able to "trick" the drive into sending you some data, it would be hopelessly scrambled.


For "ordinary" data all you need to do to erase an SSD is to send it the ERASE command. For Nuclear Secrets, you shred the chips.


Do not try to write over the data on an SSD. It is already unusable when you say "erase the drive".

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Jan 7, 2016 7:21 PM in response to anguswd

If it shows itself in Disk Utility, you could try a regular erase.


If it can erase, you may be able to partition and use it again.


If not, try leaving it powered on but not accessed for a half hour or more. and if that brings no joy, try Restarting and leaving it alone again.

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Jan 8, 2016 1:47 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

i left it over night with just the SSd powered on, then tried to a simple erase got the same message: "wiping volume data to prevent future accidental probing failed"


could this work: plug the SSD into my own macbook pro, test if it shows and erases on it, install OSX through mine then plug into into the other macbook pro. would it work then? they are both late 2011 MBP,


or do macs not like that? i know you can do that with basically any other windows branded laptop providing they share the same drivers and hardware,


Cheers

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Jan 8, 2016 3:56 PM in response to anguswd

The convoluted procedure you describe will work fine on a Mac. Macs are capable of booting from any appropriate device.


The way Mac OS X installs is to get together a stripped down version of the incoming software, boot to that, then use that to move the appropriate files into place. Only when the process is nearly complete, are the changes made permanent. A failure part way through is intended to leave the previous Mac OS X unchanged.

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