Alex Cord

Q: Win 10 won't boot after install (retina iMac, 3tb fusion drive)

I have spent a frustrating day trying to install win 10 on my 2014 retina iMac (3tb fusion drive)

 

No problems with boot camp and the install from usb key (64bit Windows 10) but the first time that Windows fires up after the install it crashes with the message "Your PC ran into a problem.... Critical process died" and continues in a loop booting to this problem until I option boot to OSX.

 

Tried the install process a number of times from scratch and from a different iso but get the same issue?

 

Wondering if it might be an issue with the fusion drive config?

 

many thanks

 

Alex

iMac with Retina 5K display, iOS 9.2

Posted on Jan 10, 2016 3:51 PM

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Q: Win 10 won't boot after install (retina iMac, 3tb fusion drive)

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  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 3:20 AM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 3:20 AM in response to Alex Cord

    This is probably the most succinct explanation of Hybrid MBRs - http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html .

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Loner T
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    Jan 12, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Loner T

    Ok, followed the steps re, ethernet, smc, nvram etc but still exactly the same result.

     

    How do I do a "legacy" install?

     

    Happy to have it set in stone with a 2tb OSX and 1tb Windows 10.

     

    Many thanks in advance

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 2:31 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 2:31 PM in response to Alex Cord

    Boot Camp: Remove Windows from your Mac to remove Windows. Do not use Disk Utility. Once it has been removed use BCA and use only the Install Windows Option.

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 2:36 PM in response to Loner T
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    Jan 12, 2016 2:36 PM in response to Loner T

    Hi Loner T,

     

    Yes I have been using BC to remove the Windows partitions during my attempts.

     

    So to bring you up to date with the latest.

     

    Just for a test I even restored the machine to Yosemite and tried and install and still exactly the same problem, Also tried creating the Windows partition large enough to force the OSX partition beneath the 2tb size which I understand can cause issues but no luck.

     

    My machine is now completing a completely fresh (from USB) El Capitan install.

     

    Frustrating is not the word. Maybe I should have just bought an Alienware PC lol.

     

    Clearly I am in a minority with my issues as there is not an awful lot of info out there.

     

    Any last ideas?

     

    Regards

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Alex Cord

    Run BCA and remove the current BC Partition, if you still have it. This will make the Fusion drive a single OSX drive. Post the output of diskutil cs list.

     

    We try and manually create a BC partition. If you want to keep the partition for Windows smaller than 1 TB, manual partitioning can accommodate a request for something smaller. The parts after the BC partition can be absorbed into the main OSX part easily. This will also allow a legacy installation.

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 2:56 PM in response to Loner T
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    Jan 12, 2016 2:56 PM in response to Loner T

    Yep, happy for a 700 gb Windows partition.

     

    Disk Util as below, ready when you are master ;-)

     

    iMac:~ alexcord$ diskutil cs list

    CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

    |

    +-- Logical Volume Group 23358AC4-21DF-4587-92BE-2B9B52F09DA5

        =========================================================

        Name:         Internal Drive

        Status:       Online

        Size:         3120722075648 B (3.1 TB)

        Free Space:   114688 B (114.7 KB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 5F9ECD36-EC41-49E6-9FE4-0AA2915D4110

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    0

        |   Disk:     disk0s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     120988852224 B (121.0 GB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 393345D6-5037-4BF3-9CA5-763DCAF5B1A9

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    1

        |   Disk:     disk1s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     2999733223424 B (3.0 TB)

        |

        +-> Logical Volume Family 4C79F4F0-DAB0-46D9-9E3B-CCDE643DCA54

            ----------------------------------------------------------

            Encryption Type:         None

            |

            +-> Logical Volume BB6A5140-0084-4C95-84C0-CB48CD8D238D

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Disk:                  disk2

                Status:                Online

                Size (Total):          3114866704384 B (3.1 TB)

                Revertible:            No

                LV Name:               Macintosh HD

                Volume Name:           Macintosh HD

                Content Hint:          Apple_HFS

                LVG Type:              Fusion, Sparse

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 3:13 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 3:13 PM in response to Alex Cord

    We are going to use diskutil cs resizeStack command. The command reduces the CS volume to 1.5TB, creates a 700Gb Bootcamp and the REMAINDER is a HFS+ disk slice which we will add (after verification of the output) back into the CS volume. I assume you have good back ups of OSX, and it can be restored, if necessary.

     

    In OSX Terminal type the following command. The following command is a single line.

     

    diskutil cs resizeStack BB6A5140-0084-4C95-84C0-CB48CD8D238D 393345D6-5037-4BF3-9CA5-763DCAF5B1A9 1500g fat32 BOOTCAMP 700g jhfs+ REMAINDER 0g

     

    Please post the output of the command and the output of

     

    sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

     

    This is the syntax.

    diskutil cs resizestack

    Usage:  diskutil coreStorage resizeStack

            lvUUID|MountPoint|DiskIdentifier|DeviceNode [pvUUID] size

            [part1Format part1Name part1Size part2Format part2Name part2Size

             part3Format part3Name part3Size ...]

    Resize both a logical volume and one of its underlying physical volumes in a

    single operation. A single physical volume is always chosen for the underlying

    shrink or grow, even if the logical volume's logical volume group is backed by

    more than one physical volume. If you do not specify a particular physical

    volume, then one is chosen for you. Note that if this is a grow operation,

    this verb is limited by the physical volume's partition's room to grow.

    Specifying zero as the size asks for an "automatic" grow-to-fill operation.

    If this is a shrink operation, you can optionally request that new partitions

    be created in the newly-formed free space gap in the partition map.

    Again, note that this only resizes one of the underlying physical volumes; if

    you need more sophistication in managing your topology, you should use the

    separate physical and logical volume resize verbs.

    Example: diskutil coreStorage resizeStack

             11111111-2222-3333-4444-555555555555 10g JHFS+ New 1g

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 3:21 PM in response to Loner T
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    Thanks!!

     

    iMac:~ alexcord$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

     

    WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss

    or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your

    typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.

     

    To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.

     

    Password:

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: mediasize=3000592982016; sectorsize=512; blocks=5860533168

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: Sec GPT at sector 5860533167

           start        size  index  contents

               0           1         MBR

               1           1         Pri GPT header

               2          32         Pri GPT table

              34           6        

              40      409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

          409640  2704817416      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      2705227056     1269536      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      2706496592         944        

      2706497536  1367185408      4  GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7

      4073682944        1152        

      4073684096  1786586888      5  GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      5860270984      262151        

      5860533135          32         Sec GPT table

      5860533167           1         Sec GPT header

     

     

     

    iMac:~ alexcord$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

    Disk: /dev/disk1 geometry: 97451/255/63 [1565565872 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

    2: AC 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [    409640 - 2704817416] <Unknown ID>

    3: AB 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [2705227056 -    1269536] Darwin Boot

    4: 0B 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [2706497536 - 1367185408] Win95 FAT-32

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 3:23 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 3:23 PM in response to Alex Cord

    One more command.

     

    diskutil list

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 3:25 PM in response to Loner T
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    iMac:~ alexcord$ diskutil list

    /dev/disk0 (internal, physical):

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage Internal Drive          121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1 (internal, physical):

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage Internal Drive          1.4 TB     disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk1s6

       4:       Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP                700.0 GB   disk1s4

       5:                  Apple_HFS REMAINDER               914.7 GB   disk1s5

    /dev/disk2 (internal, virtual):

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD           +1.5 TB     disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     BB6A5140-0084-4C95-84C0-CB48CD8D238D

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

    /dev/disk5 (disk image):

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                            Dropbox Installer      +626.7 KB   disk5

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 3:29 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 3:29 PM in response to Alex Cord

    Run a SMC/NVRAM Reset. Shutdown your Mac, connect your W10 USB Installer, power up and hold the Alt/Option key and select the Windows icon from the USB (do not use EFI boot). Select the BOOTCAMP partition in Windows Installer, choose Format, and the click Next. If Windows installs properly, we can extend the OSX volume to absorb REMAINDER.

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 12, 2016 4:08 PM in response to Loner T
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    Jan 12, 2016 4:08 PM in response to Loner T

    Hi, followed your instructions to the letter but same error when starting except it is in a much lower res, guessing the drivers haven't been loaded.

     

    Unless you have any brainwaves it might be best if I give up on this task. If so, I would really appreciate it if you could give me the terminal commands to merge the drive back together again otherwise I can just go for a straight install again as I haven't installed all the apps yet.

     

    Many thanks for all of your help though!!!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 12, 2016 4:57 PM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 12, 2016 4:57 PM in response to Alex Cord

    Can you post the md5sum of the ISO you used? Use openssl md5 to get the md5sum of the ISO.

  • by Alex Cord,

    Alex Cord Alex Cord Jan 13, 2016 12:16 AM in response to Loner T
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    Jan 13, 2016 12:16 AM in response to Loner T

    Win10_1511_EnglishInternational_x64.iso)= 3c45cb361bf29098c2536e14a2be6f1c

     

    Thanks!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Jan 13, 2016 4:02 AM in response to Alex Cord
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    Jan 13, 2016 4:02 AM in response to Alex Cord

    Alex Cord wrote:

     

    Win10_1511_EnglishInternational_x64.iso)= 3c45cb361bf29098c2536e14a2be6f1c

    It matches what I have

    openssl md5 Win10_1511_EnglishInternational_x64.iso

    MD5(Win10_1511_EnglishInternational_x64.iso)= 3c45cb361bf29098c2536e14a2be6f1c

     

    As a test, can you try to install W8.1?

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