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Q: OS X Server with Windows 7--permissions problem

Hey there, all. My name is Susan.

 

I've just started administering the server in our photo studio and I've run into a problem. I'm hoping somebody can help me. We have the newest OS X server software running on Yosemite on a MacMini. The server really manages file sharing. All of the client machines in the office are Yosemite except for two that are Windows 7. Of those two, only one actually uses file sharing.

 

Here is the problem. When somebody creates a folder from that Windows machine, nobody else can delete or modify the folder.

 

I set up OD, and there are several different OD users. If one of the OD users makes a directory in a sharepoint, everybody can add files, delete files, rename things, make folders, etc. It's great. There is just one problem. If the user on the Windows machine (authenticated into a mapped sharepoint with OD credentials) creates a folder, nobody can delete that folder. The Mac users can add files, delete files, etc. But if they empty the folder of its contents and then try and delete the folder itself, it says that is not allowed. Or, worse, the client machine's Finder just flips off of the folder after the delete command, it gets all weird, and the folder remains (this weird behavior doesn't happen if the Mac client is authenticated as a local user instead of an OD user, but it still doesn't delete the folder).

 

I would love any advice. The users are committed to their ways, so I can't talk them into just not deleting folders. I need this one wrinkle to iron out so they can work fluidly. I'm desperate for any help. Thanks!

 

-Susan

Posted on Feb 2, 2016 8:48 AM

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Q: OS X Server with Windows 7--permissions problem

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  • by CIPUSA,

    CIPUSA CIPUSA Feb 2, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Feb 2, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Thanks for the link. I ran into that earlier. Unfortunately, it doesn't really do much for our solution.

     

    1) Implementing these terminal commands on a different server didn't solve the problem

    2) This is more for applications that use "safe save" which isn't anything our Windows user is doing. It's only using the desktop explorer to interact with the server.

    3) This is more about files. Our problem isn't with files. Files move around just fine no matter where they originate. The problem is that folders created by the person on the Windows machine can only be deleted from the Windows machine. Files aren't an issue.

     

    I appreciate the help ruling this out though. I would so appreciate any thoughts from anybody here on what they think we can try next. I can provide any details you might need to help me through this.

     

    Thanks so much. Cheers!

  • by Looter,

    Looter Looter Feb 2, 2016 6:29 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Feb 2, 2016 6:29 PM in response to Linc Davis

    Doesn’t 10.11x dfault to SMB and isn’t AFP basically deprecated by Apple?

  • by CIPUSA,

    CIPUSA CIPUSA Feb 2, 2016 7:05 PM in response to Looter
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    Feb 2, 2016 7:05 PM in response to Looter

    I'm a little foggy on which protocols are preferred, so I can't answer your question well.

     

    I can say the following:

     

    * On the sharepoints, both SMB and AFP are checked.

    * OD is on.

    * There are several OD users.

    * Users are added to sharepoints.

    * Permissions are propagated after each new OD user that I create and add for experiment.

    * All machines are connected to the sharepoint with a different OD credentials, including the Windows machine.

    * All machines can exchange files around without any permissions problems.

    * OD users from any terminal can create folders and nested folders without an issue.

    * OD users from any terminal can place and delete files within those new directories.

    * If an OD user from a Mac box creates folders, anybody can delete those folders.

    *** If an OD user creates a folder from the Windows machine, only the OD user from that machine can delete that folder.

     

    It's not about files. It's about the folder.

     

    I've tried different users on the W7 machine to rule out problem or corrupt users.

  • by CIPUSA,

    CIPUSA CIPUSA Feb 2, 2016 7:11 PM in response to CIPUSA
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    Feb 2, 2016 7:11 PM in response to CIPUSA

    As a side note, and I'm not sure how relevant this piece of information is, there is one other odd behavior: when I'm working at the server terminal as the server admin user, any folder created by a Windows user throws a prohibitory sign. If an OD user on a Mac makes a folder, the serveradmin can look indie of it no problem. But if an OD user on the W7 box makes a user, there is a prohibitory sign for the serveradmin on the server itself.