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Feb 2, 2016 11:00 AM in response to Jbbttusmuby JonnyApplerseed,MY GOODNESS. All this debate about icloud accounts.
Here's how to fix it in 10 seconds. Settings>Phone>Calls on Other Devices; turn off on any iphones you have or specify which devices to leave it on.
If you turn it off on phone A, but leave it on phone B and specify to communicate with Phone A, you will still see calls from phone B on phone A. Same goes for visa versa. If you want no sharing (no ability to answer the other phone from the one you have on you), turn the feature off on both phones. It's all done in settings with no need to mess with the way you have your apple account set up for your family.
See, now you have time to take all this other brilliant advice and start an icloud account for your two year old for no reason. usually this forum is helpful...
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Feb 2, 2016 12:48 PM in response to JonnyApplerseedby KiltedTim,Did you even bother reading the description of the problem? Apparently not. It has nothing to do with answering calls on other devices.
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Feb 3, 2016 10:15 AM in response to KiltedTimby JonnyApplerseed,Even though you authoritatively answered your own question, yes I bothered (but I'm not as bothered as you apparently).
The issue is that A) He and his wife are using the same Apple ID (nothing at all wrong with that) and B) he has "Calls on Other Devices" turned on which allows his calls to come in on her phone, affecting her call log. There are lots of reasons you might have two phones connected to one Apple ID, I do, and I've experienced this exact issue. This problem is easily fixed in settings. Sure, you could create separate Apple ID's, but it's certainly not required (and not ideal in many cases).
Here is the original post, cut and pasted for you. I look forward to my next scolding:
When I receive calls the missed calls show on my wife's iphone. We both use Iphone 5S's and we use the same apple ID for icloud and purchases. But of course the numbers are different. Also the phones are on 2 different phone accounts.
Why are these two phones sharing the call log?
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Feb 3, 2016 10:18 AM in response to JonnyApplerseedby Csound1,JonnyApplerseed wrote:
Even though you authoritatively answered your own question, yes I bothered (but I'm not as bothered as you apparently).
The issue is that A) He and his wife are using the same Apple ID (nothing at all wrong with that)
Bearing in mind that iCloud is a single user system, there is a lot wrong with that. Including all the complaint in this thread.
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Feb 3, 2016 6:48 PM in response to JonnyApplerseedby Philly_Phan,JonnyApplerseed wrote:
The issue is that A) He and his wife are using the same Apple ID (nothing at all wrong with that)...
Except that it is contrary to Apple's specific recommendation.
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Feb 4, 2016 8:59 AM in response to JonnyApplerseedby Lawrence Finch,JonnyApplerseed wrote:
The issue is that A) He and his wife are using the same Apple ID (nothing at all wrong with that)
What's wrong with that depends on what your relationship is like:
- The contact list is shared, so anyone sharing the account sees all of the other's contacts
- All messages (SMS, MMS, iMessage) can be seen by everyone sharing the account
- Notes are shared, so there's no such thing as a private note
- Reminders are visible to everyone on the account, such as each person's gift list for others
- All documents created with the Productivity apps are visible to everyone sharing the account
- All Safari bookmarks and history are shared, including those links to ashleymadison.com and other sites that most users keep private
- All email messages are shared
- iCloud backups are shared, so one person can restore another's iCloud backup to their device and have the complete contents of the backed up phone.
- If you use Keychain to save passwords, these are shared
- If children are sharing the account you can read their texts. But they can read yours, also. And all of the above
- Phone call history is shared
So if it's OK to share all but the last, I don't see what the issue is with phone call history. Everything else in your life is public to all of the sharing devices, so why not phone calls? You clearly have a very close relationship, with no secrets from each other.
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Feb 4, 2016 9:03 AM in response to ROMZ!1by Lawrence Finch,ROMZ!1 wrote:
Turn Off Icloud Drive - Problem solved
Which is fine if you don't use it for anything else. But I have a couple of dozen files on iCloud Drive that I share between 2 computers and 3 iOS devices so I can update them wherever and whenever I want.
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Feb 4, 2016 9:36 AM in response to Jbbttusmuby mrhoni,Not to say this is the absolute solution for everyone, but my answer on 1/27/16 solved this issue for my wife and I. Since then we are not seeing each other's missed calls, dialed calls, received calls. That solution is what apple support said to do.
I have iCloud Drive turned on and she does not. As I stated in my post family sharing is not good enough at sharing what we can share using one Apple ID between my wife and I. She has an Apple ID for her email and we have the other ID to share calendars and contacts. We have several calendars we share and each calendar has a purpose.
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Feb 4, 2016 9:39 AM in response to mrhoniby Csound1,Would you prefer it if you could both use the drive as and when you wanted to?
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Feb 6, 2016 5:33 AM in response to JonnyApplerseedby stuffdoggg ,hold on, you have the option to turn off those options you listed except for the call history sharing. I am not able to see any texts on any other shared icloud device from my wife or kids nor are they able to see mine so I'm not sure all you listed there is correct. I was having this issue with only 1 out of 7 iPhones that are logged into the exact same Apple id and iCloud account . The only use we have for iCloud is the " find my iPhone" feature , every other option is selected to be off in iCloud on all devices.
It seems I've resolved the shared call history issue by removing all emails listed in the iCloud menu of each device (only the primary iCloud email is listed on each device) I also turned off cellular data for the phone app in all devices as I see no reason the phone app needs to use cellular data other than to unnecessarily sync call history (although I'm not shure if the phone app attempts to use wifi if cellular data is disabled) .
I also agree with those wishing for Apple to provide a proper solution for this as you should be able to toggle this sharing call history feature on and off. I see no reason for each of my children using "my" devices to have their own separate accounts and passwords not to mention my credit card information on each account . Having 1 Apple ID is more logical and convenient . familyshare defeats the purpose of simplicity and forces the owner of all devices (me) to set up separate accounts for each, this is a ridiculous expectation . Using one account does still work, iOS still allows multiple devices to be logged into the same user account so obviously at some point iOS was intended and still has capacity to do as such. They fixed something that wasn't broken! Many have stated the sharing phone log issue is usually only on one or a couple devices Thus it's only logical to reason that there are settings or bugs that can and should be repaired or adjusted to resolve. Instead Apple resorts to creating a whole other complex familyshare feature and advising everyone to comply rather than simply adding a toggle function.
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Feb 6, 2016 5:40 AM in response to stuffdogggby Csound1,Sharing one ID is insecure. Especially with kids involved.
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Feb 6, 2016 7:51 AM in response to stuffdogggby Lawrence Finch,You clearly don't understand Family Sharing. You can have one master account with one credit card. Other iCloud accounts can be set up to share all purchases made on that account, music, video and apps, and, if you enable it, to require authorization from you to make purchases using the master account. If you share an Apple ID you don't have this control. None of the other accounts on a family share program will have a credit card attached. Each can have its own calendar and contacts; you can optionally share one or more calendars and contact groups. Each account has its own free 5 GB, rather than sharing 5GB among multiple users. Your notes will be private. And content stored in iCloud Drive will be private. If you back up your device to iCloud no one else can restore it to their device and have an image of everything on your phone. Family sharing is easier than a shared account, and gives you much more control.
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Feb 6, 2016 8:36 AM in response to Csound1by stuffdoggg ,How so? In the iCloud settings there are toggles if you do not want to share contacts, calendars photos etc. on the same iCloud, this it not the case for "call history"? It's just poor and sloppy design that causes this, and thus by what you are saying it suggests that instead of fixing it Apple would rather just require the user to sign up for multiple accounts, an admin nightmare. If the intent for a "single" user is to have the same shared iCloud account and data on multiple devices (iPhone, tablet, etc) then why would they not include a way toggle the sharing of your call history as well on each device? Simple... It's a design flaw, a bug that they are neglecting to correct.
Other than not being able to manualy turn off sharing call history, I'm not sure what type of security you are referring to...
I do know that it is not secure or convenient having my contact and credit card information stored 7 times one for each seperate apple ID. I "own" all 7 devices, there is no reason I should have to have a seperate account for each device I own. My kids that are "involved" and "using" the devices do not own them and are not entitled to anything concerning an Apple ID or account nor do I wish or ever have wished them to even have an Apple ID. they do not know or have access to my apple ID account password. the devices are set up to not allow purchase without my approval and password. Once they are adults and pay the bill they can get their own device and accounts and do as they wish. This is wrong on so many levels for Apple to require this of owners/users, especially when a simple toggle would resolve the issue. Instead they have muddied things up with requiring the same owner to have multiple accounts, very clunky. If you agree with and support Apple on this, you are acting as mindless sheep especially when there are clearly more simple and logical alternatives that could be employed.
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