Q: Aperture to What?

Thanks.  But I have had strong aversions to LR. Although there have been some significant improvements in LR with the 6th edition, I still felt Aperture produced better end photos (and simpler to use) in spite of Apertures stagnation.  The monthly bill (for LR) is tempting knowing you get updates that you do not pay extra for.  I will give another good look at Capture 1,  PhotoFXlab, DxO Optics Pro 10, and Affinity Pro; and if need be, also consider a DAM program.  Maybe a miracle will occur and Aperture will get new life if some respectable programers/photographers take it over.  And I will look at comments from people who have switched from Aperture.  I am saddened that Apple has let such a good program go by the wayside.

Other candidates are Capture One, Photos Supreme, Dark Table, Aftershot Pro, Mylio, Emulsion, Lyn, etc etc. Some more like browsers; some more like Aperture.

I am having good luck with Lyn.  Lyn is the ONLY program I found that is capable of showing Keywords, (or other metadata) under the thumbnails. I got used to this capability with earlier versions of iPhoto and all versions of Aperture. Something I cannot live without.

I am in no way affiliated with Lyn, just a customer.

Thanks.  I appreciate your suggestion.

I have a 1 TB-plus library, about 80K photos.

I am looking for something which preserves all adjustments I've made.

So far only Apple's Photos seems to be capable of that.

Hope I'm wrong about that. Photos is so light weight that my hope of developers coming to the rescue with extensions doesn't look like it's going to become a serious alternative.

In the meantime I'll use Aperture for a few more years (and keep the Mac on El Cap), begin the process of exporting all photos to TIFFs, then look at Lightroom (or Photos, if it's matured into a decent "prosumer" app).

Photos is so light weight that my hope of developers coming to the rescue with extensions doesn't look like it's going to become a serious alternative.

There is a new extension which functions like the old External Editor which might make a big difference - you can now use an editor as an external with Photos.

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/external-editors-for-photos/id1074021862?mt=12

Terence, I'm intrigued.

I've never used an external editor (I don't even know what one is).

I guessing this would allow one to edit, through Photos, in Aperture and the adjustments, location data etc. are saved in Photos?

What happens when OS X doesn't support Aperture any more? Would I have to sit on El Capitain?

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Terence, I'm intrigued.

I've never used an external editor (I don't even know what one is).

I guessing this would allow one to edit, through Photos, in Aperture and the adjustments, location data etc. are saved in Photos?

What happens when OS X doesn't support Aperture any more? Would I have to sit on El Capitain?

Use the editing extension to activate  a powerful external editor, not another DAM.  For example Affinity Photos is very promising as an alternative to Photoshop, and it is fully compatible with Photos and El Capitan.

the Dxo Optics Pro Extension is providing already a very good raw support for Photos.

sorry, I have no idea what all of that means.

Sorry for being a bit cryptic.  What I meant is, that you can use many image editors using the "External Editors" extension in Photos, but it has to be an editor and not another image database.  You cannot use Aperture as an editor this way, because Aperture needs to import a photo before you can edit it.

You can call any application from Photos using this extension, that can open an image file and save the edited version back.  Candidates are Adobe PhotoShops or similar, Pixelmator, and many more. My favorite currently is Affinity Photos.

Thanks.

There are two things that would get me on OS X Photos today: Support for importing a GPS track and a few brushes (like the ones found in Aperture).

I've used Tonality (extension) in Photos and like it a lot. Perhaps that is an example of external editing?

Support for importing a GPS track and a few brushes (like the ones found in Aperture).

Definitely!  Brushes, Geocoding (better, more detailed maps, the ability to show the GPS coordinates), a better support for metadata tags, and a better batch processing.

I've used Tonality (extension) in Photos and like it a lot. Perhaps that is an example of external editing?

Yes, that is an example.

I am using Noiseless and Affinity Haze Removal a lot. Both are extensions like Tonality. The difference between extension and external editor is, that the extension only offers a limited set of the tools of the full, stand alone application, and by installing the "External editor" extension you can call the stand alone application directly from Photos.

You may want to have a look at Old Toad's User Tip:   External Editors in Photos Are Here

And at this list of available extensions:  Photo Editing Extensions for Photos for Mac

leonie, you seem to be on the cutting edge of this.

Are you aware of any methods in Photos to show Keywords (and other metadata) underneath the thumbnails the way that Aperture still has, and that earlier versions of iPhoto had ?

This capability is an absolute requirement for those of us doing engineering / scientific work with our images.

https://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=5%26se ction=20%26tasks=true

The monthly bill (for LR) is tempting knowing you get updates that you do not pay extra for.

Just to be clear, LR can still be purchased, http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/software._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_s l_software_sl_mostpopular.html for $150.

Are you aware of any methods in Photos to show Keywords (and other metadata) underneath the thumbnails the way that Aperture still has, and that earlier versions of iPhoto had ?

Photos cannot do that yet. But I am using Photos with Power Photos as a secondary Browser.

Power Photos can easily switch between libraries, move photos between libraries, and makes it easier to browse the photos with metadata below the thumbnails or in list view.

In PowerPhotos I can browse the Photos Library like this - with two titles below the thumbnails. You can use the subtitle for keywords.

Or in list view:

I agree.  I have been using Aperature for years and now Apple wants to convert to Photos? No thanks!!