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Q: How can I get past Darwin showing up on my screen. i-book g3. hasn't been started in years and when I try it spins forever (like 1-1/4 hr.) and then goes to a black darwin sceen. I tried booting from the disc but I it won't let me see the hard drive

my son tried to update the OS and now it won't start-up in any OS. Doesn't seem to see the hard drive. But after spinning for over an hour it goes into the black screen Darwin/BSD (my-name-Computer.loca) (console)

Login: IOATAController device blocking bus.

 

I tried booting from the OS disk and it cant see the hard drive to load to. I even used disk utility to erase everything in the hope of just doing a re-install.

Anyone out there speak Darwin?

Also not sure if it had 10.2, 10.3 or 10.4 loaded on it.

iBook G4 (14-inch Mid 2005), Mac OS X (10.2.x) , it's a G-3 power pc circa 2003-004

Posted on Feb 6, 2016 9:47 AM

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  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Feb 6, 2016 10:02 AM in response to hobbitown
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    Feb 6, 2016 10:02 AM in response to hobbitown

    If the HDD isn't visible in Disk Utility then it is dead and will need to be replaced. When you boot the computer the hangup is that the OS cannot find a drive from which to load the OS. The last G3 iBook came with 10.4.11. The first G3 iBook came with 10.3.9. Lots of G3 iBook models, so I have no idea which OS version is the minimum requirement for yours.

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Feb 7, 2016 1:58 AM in response to hobbitown
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    Feb 7, 2016 1:58 AM in response to hobbitown

    Of the iBook G3/ G4 models, the G3 could be a source of minor confusion due

    to the change from colors model to white G3 model in May 2001. This first white

    model has dual USB ports and other improvements over the older early G3...

     

    Early colors aka 'clamshell' iBook G3 appeared in 1999; first ran MacOS8.6.

    First 'snow' dual USB white G3 iBook 12-inch/14-inch appeared in May 2001,

    it shipped with either (just) MacOS9.1, or later included OS X 10.0.3 (4P13.)

    'iBook G4' arrived by Oct 2003 & was replaced by newer model by April 2004.

     

    • If you have an iBook G3 dual USB (white) the guide to replace a hard disk drive:

    https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iBook+G3+12-Inch+Hard+Drive+Replacement/131

     

    I've owned the First white iBook 12-inch 500MHz G3, 64MB RAM/10GB HD (05/01)

    & still have my Last white iBook 12-inch 1.33GHz G4 1.5GB RAM/40GB HD (05/05)

     

    If you can find the product serial number, use of a 'Serial Number Lookup' site

    to determine a better determination of the exact build year series, is advised.

    The serial number may be under keyboard or in battery compartment.

    https://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php

     

    You may find the model in the everymac.com 'all ibook specification' database:

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ibook/index-ibook.html

     

    If you could find the media software disc he used to attempt an upgrade in the

    old iBook (G3?) that may be helpful for reference; if the disc was from a different

    model build series Mac computer, or from a newer Intel-based Mac, it won't work.

     

    And with these older portable computers, their rotational hard drives are long past

    their prime. To locate a replacement and know how to swap them without damage

    to other components, wires, and follow the process correctly, it a difficult chore.

    Maybe online guides can help with DIY repair https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook

     

    Three guides for G3 iBook: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G3

    Four guides for G4 iBook: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G4

     

    The hard drive would be a candidate for replacement. If you are set up to diagnose

    troubleshoot and repair these older powerPC G3/G4 portables, it's not impossible.

    Locating replacement parts, such as the ATA/IDE hard drive, may be harder now.

    Also, cables may need replacement after attempting to open the computer.

     

    {Models that could run Leopard 10.5(.8) would need to have a PPC cpu of more than

    867MHz. Even so, the last G3 iBook with 900MHz may not run it. My 12-in iBook G4

    with 1.33GHz CPU and 1.5GB RAM doesn't like Leopard 10.5.8. Tiger is best, there.}

     

    https://www.apple.com/usergroups/

     

    There may be an Apple User Group in your vicinity with some vintage product users

    who may have ideas. Most 'apple authorized service providers' may balk if asked...

     

    Also, the logic board may have a failed component. Try the HDD first, because the

    in-out ATA controller device that appears to have failed may just be in the HDD.

    But it may also be a shared component that allows optical drive to work, or not.

     

    In any event...

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by hobbitown,

    hobbitown hobbitown Feb 7, 2016 10:13 AM in response to hobbitown
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    Feb 7, 2016 10:13 AM in response to hobbitown

    It is definitely a g3 14" 900mghz model. I think he tried to load a higher system than what it is rated for. Can that kill a hd? Or does it just block it like the

    darwin message says. See 2 pics below.

     

    g3 pic 2.jpg

     

    g3 pic 1.jpg

  • by hobbitown,

    hobbitown hobbitown Feb 7, 2016 10:15 AM in response to Kappy
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    Feb 7, 2016 10:15 AM in response to Kappy

    Isn't there a repair disk available like it say i disk utility?

  • by hobbitown,

    hobbitown hobbitown Feb 7, 2016 10:20 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    Feb 7, 2016 10:20 AM in response to K Shaffer

    Sorry please see my attempts to communicate with both of you who responded. Including 2 screen pics.

  • by hobbitown,

    hobbitown hobbitown Feb 7, 2016 10:29 AM in response to hobbitown
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    Feb 7, 2016 10:29 AM in response to hobbitown

    Disk utility sees the hard drive. See the pic below for DU message it gives me. I can see it when I restart from the OS disk too. I just can't choose it to reload the OS on to it.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 7, 2016 10:47 AM in response to hobbitown
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    Feb 7, 2016 10:47 AM in response to hobbitown

    Where are you running Disk Utility from? Newer Disk Utility can break older OS's if they are not the same version. 

     

    These old Macs never had any recovery system or internet recovery. All you can do is run the software install disks that support the model to reinstall & repair the OS.

     

    You can try running an fsck in single user mode (that is the same as Disk Utility's repair disk option).

    How to start up your Mac in single-user or verbose mode - Apple Support

     

    The command prompt normally lists the command to run to do a filesystem check & repair…

    /sbin/fsck -fy
    

     

    Type 'reboot' when it stops reporting errors or re-run it.

     

    I doubt you can recover this without erasing & reinstalling an OS that works with that model. Do you have any other Macs to allow you to backup the Mac in this broken state? Target disk mode & a firewire cable may help you get the data off (ignore the reference to Mountain Lion - it works with many older OS's).

    OS X Mountain Lion: Transfer files between two computers using target disk mode