linda2009

Q: Alternative to Disk Utility?

El Cap's Disk Utility is severely crippled.  So many things are either missing and/or not user friendly.  I am talking about the GUI Disk Utility.  I know you can still do things from the Command Line (terminal).

 

I'm not talking about being able to Verify & Fix permissions.  That was convenient, but it's not the only thing missing.  A lot of basics are messed up.  You can't resize the window or the column.  It makes you think maybe you can, because you can put the cursor there and try, but it does nothing!  You're stuck with a column where you can't see the full name of drives and if you have a long list, you have to continue to scroll down.  This is so frustrating.  You need to be able to resize these things.

 

When I initially upgraded, I made the mistake of trying to partition my hard drive (which I had done lots of times in Mavericks all the way back to Snow on another machine).  Well, after that debacle, which yes - was "green" user error, I had to get a Fusion Drive education!  Without the debug menu, you can't see all the partitions on your drive either!  The partition area was easier to understand than the circle which bounces around and is difficult to even type a number in the box. It also makes those of us with CD/DVD drives work harder to do basic things.  Thank goodness for some good 3rd party apps that make it easier/ simpler.

 

I've searched around and it seems some people re-install Yosemite's Disk Utility.  I'm not one to experiment quite that far.

 

So okay another Apple included program basically useless that they probably will let die instead of fixing.

 

So my question:  Is there an alternative GUI type Disk Utility program out there that one can use??  Most importantly, one that functions similar to the old Disk Utility.  Just a simple little utility app?  Any recommendations?

 

Please, I understand that I can get a lot of the functions using Terminal.  But, I don't want to do that for things that I used to be able to do in GUI.  Thank goodness I can learn to do that, but some people shouldn't have to use Terminal.  This isn't a post about how to do a certain function.  I just want to know if anyone has found an alternate GUI disk utility.

 

Thanks!

Mac mini, OS X El Capitan (10.11.2), 2 GHz Intel Core i7

Posted on Feb 5, 2016 7:37 AM

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  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 5, 2016 2:34 PM in response to dialabrain
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    Feb 5, 2016 2:34 PM in response to dialabrain

    dialabrain,

    Actually, I think it is the iPhone and iPad, etc that keep them in business.

  • by Smokerz,

    Smokerz Smokerz Feb 5, 2016 2:50 PM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 5, 2016 2:50 PM in response to linda2009

    Clean OS X GM   Golden Master install. If you feel you have a solid OS X installed then Migrate to the new install. I like to migrate like OS X example Mavericks to Mavericks.

     

    Or just do a clean install on a small fast SSD and don't set up iCloud anything. Partition it and use it boot OS X and have your add-on installers right there.

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Feb 5, 2016 2:55 PM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 5, 2016 2:55 PM in response to linda2009

    linda2009 wrote:

     

    dialabrain,

    Actually, I think it is the iPhone and iPad, etc that keep them in business.

    Yes Linda. I was talking about design philosophy in general.

  • by Kurt Lang,Helpful

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Feb 5, 2016 7:32 PM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 5, 2016 7:32 PM in response to linda2009

    Kind of just noticed we've completely lost track of the original question.

     

    If you want to look into other means of partitioning a Mac formatted drive, take a look at this page. They list four different third party alternatives along with links to each one.

     

    Before trying any of them, be sure to have full, restorable backups in case something goes very, ugly wrong. I'd steer clear of Gnome Editor. Not sure why the writer thought a Linux tool would be good to use on a Mac.

     

    The first link in the article just goes to a purchase page, not the product. That's here.

  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 5, 2016 7:26 PM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Feb 5, 2016 7:26 PM in response to Kurt Lang

    Thanks Kurt.

    That has 3 options to investigate.  Yeah, don't know why the gnome one was included, although it does claim to run on Macs or Windows.

  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 5, 2016 7:41 PM in response to Smokerz
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    Feb 5, 2016 7:41 PM in response to Smokerz

    Smokerz wrote:

     

    Clean OS X GM   Golden Master install. If you feel you have a solid OS X installed then Migrate to the new install. I like to migrate like OS X example Mavericks to Mavericks.

     

    Or just do a clean install on a small fast SSD and don't set up iCloud anything. Partition it and use it boot OS X and have your add-on installers right there.

    Forgive me, Smokerz, but what is Golden Master install?  Is that a program or a technique?  Thanks!

  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 5, 2016 8:14 PM in response to keg55
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    Feb 5, 2016 8:14 PM in response to keg55

    keg55 wrote:

     

    Do you know of a link on steps to create a boot volume (Mavericks and Yosemite)?

     

    Very simple. Use your Install OS X Yosemite.app file or your Install OS X Mavericks.app file with the Recovery Partition Creator 3.8 utility and a 4GB USB thumb drive. This will create a Recovery HD of either of those OS X versions on the thumb drive that you can boot from.

    keg55,

    I downloaded the Recovery Partition Creator, but I can't find instructions?

    I have the YM install app, but not sure how to proceed, what to do first?  Install YM on external usb (which has to be at least 8 gb, right?  How do create the recovery HD on a 4gb usb?

     

    *I tried clicking on the Creator file and it just says it's going to create a recovery drive, but doesn't seem to have options and I didn't want to just go ahead?

    I'm confused!  Could you perhaps type the step by steps?

  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 5, 2016 9:31 PM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Feb 5, 2016 9:31 PM in response to Kurt Lang

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    Kind of just noticed we've completely lost track of the original question.

     

    If you want to look into other means of partitioning a Mac formatted drive, take a look at this page. They list four different third party alternatives along with links to each one.

     

    Before trying any of them, be sure to have full, restorable backups in case something goes very, ugly wrong. I'd steer clear of Gnome Editor. Not sure why the writer thought a Linux tool would be good to use on a Mac.

     

    The first link in the article just goes to a purchase page, not the product. That's here.

    Weirdest thing, Kurt.

    The Partition Magic Mac page just downloads the Stellar Partition Manager!  Maybe the Partition Magic Mac was older version of Stellar.  Not sure what I'll do now.  Hmm.

  • by keg55,

    keg55 keg55 Feb 6, 2016 5:12 AM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 5:12 AM in response to linda2009

    I downloaded the Recovery Partition Creator, but I can't find instructions?

    I have the YM install app, but not sure how to proceed, what to do first?  Install YM on external usb (which has to be at least 8 gb, right?  How do create the recovery HD on a 4gb usb?

     

    There are no instructions. Just follow the prompts. It's an Apple script so all you do is double click the app. You'll see some instructions of what it's about to do. Then, you select the thumb drive from a list of drives to write the Recovery HD. Make sure you choose your USB thumb drive. Next, it asks where your Install OS X -----.app file is. And then it will ask you to click one of two buttons. One button has 10.7 10.8 on it and the 2nd button has 10.9. Just click the 10.9 button. That one applies for OS X Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan. The developer just didn't update his application to change that button. The app will do its thing and create the Recovery HD on the thumb drive and let you know when it's done.

     

    There might be some instructions of something on the link I provided to the developer's Web site for the utility.

  • by linda2009,

    linda2009 linda2009 Feb 6, 2016 10:11 AM in response to keg55
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    Feb 6, 2016 10:11 AM in response to keg55

    Thanks! keg55 -- that was helpful even if the forum won't let me click on the "helped me."  So thanks.

     

    It seems it wouldn't let me do it with my El Cap OS on my fusion drive. Don't know if it was what I did or what.  So I booted a Mav clone and it worked just like you said!  I made a Yosemite recovery so I could have the last version of Disk Utility.

     

    I tried Paragon disk manager (free); I did not care for it.  I might try Stellar Partition manager, it claims it shows hidden partitions...something DU used to do with the debug menu.

     

    Thanks for all the ideas and help everyone.  If I find a reasonable alternative, I'll post back.  For now I'm going to try and use the YM Disk Utility when necessary even tho it's a pain to exit EC and boot YM.

    thanks

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Feb 6, 2016 10:23 AM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 10:23 AM in response to linda2009

    linda2009 wrote:

     

    Thanks! keg55 -- that was helpful even if the forum won't let me click on the "helped me."  So thanks.

     

    It seems it wouldn't let me do it with my El Cap OS on my fusion drive. Don't know if it was what I did or what.

     

    Hi again linda,

    It wasn't something you did. From the RPC 38 page…

    For those of you with Fusion drives or Core Storage Volumes this program will not work on those.

  • by keg55,

    keg55 keg55 Feb 6, 2016 10:25 AM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 10:25 AM in response to linda2009

    It seems it wouldn't let me do it with my El Cap OS on my fusion drive. Don't know if it was what I did or what. 

    That utility will NOT let you create a Recovery HD ON a Fusion Drive or a drive that has the CoreStorage file type. But it should have let you create it on a USB thumb drive (formatted as OS X Extended-Journaled) within OS X El Capitan regardless what your internal drive is (Fusion in your case). I'm running OS X El Capitan and my file type is CoreStorage. I used my Install OS X Yosemite.app file to create a 10.10.5 Recovery HD on a USB thumb drive and had no problem at all using the utility. So, you may have done something wrong at the beginning like accidentally pointed to your internal Fusion drive instead of your external USB thumb drive.

     

    In any case, glad you got one created to solve your problem of using an older version of Disk Utility.

  • by Király,

    Király Király Feb 6, 2016 10:29 AM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 10:29 AM in response to linda2009

    My biggest complaint with the new Disk Utility is the inability to open multiple windows and run First Aid on multiple volumes simultaneously. That was always possible before. I now have to do it with multiple Terminal windows.

     

    Third party developers seem to be pretty adept at writing GUI front-ends to Apple's built-in command line tools. Hopefully someone with the know-how will step in to fill the gap.

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Feb 6, 2016 12:09 PM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 12:09 PM in response to linda2009

    Hi linda2009,

     

    While keg55's third party instructions may, or will work, it's the slow way if you do already have a full OS X .dmg installer on hand. There also isn't any need to use Recovery Partition Creator since Apple already provides a way for the user to do that. Personally, I always use DiskMaker X.

     

    What's the difference?

     

    Apple's instructions and Recovery Partition Creator only create a minimal bootable USB drive. That is, it's the same as the Recovery partition already on your drive. As such, when you boot to it, most of OS X has to be downloaded from Apple's servers. Depending on your connection speed, this can take quite a while. DiskMaker X (use an 8 GB USB drive), builds an entire bootable USB drive from the full .dmg installer. When the automated process is complete, everything necessary to reinstall OS X is on the USB drive. Nothing needs to be downloaded from Apple's servers during the install.

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Feb 6, 2016 12:16 PM in response to linda2009
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    Feb 6, 2016 12:16 PM in response to linda2009

    FWIW, I only used DiskMaker X once but it did the job well. I still have it installed and if I need it again I will use it. So that's two recommendations.

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