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Q: Logic Pro X 10.2.1 GUI lag

Hi,

have a look at the following video:

http://screencast.com/t/OVXrZM6FJGZ

 

I start with tweaking a knob of Ultrabeat which is totally smooth.

After Starting playback however the GUI gets very laggy (except the tooltip).

Even the VU Meter stops to redraw properly.

This only happens if a VU Meter (even the Master in the Toolbar) is visible !

It is the same with EXS24 or ES2, Alchemy however is smooth.


Anyone else got this behavior ?

Logic Pro X, OS X El Capitan (10.11.2), .

Posted on Jan 25, 2016 4:27 AM

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  • by ansolas,Solvedanswer

    ansolas ansolas Jan 25, 2016 4:40 AM in response to ansolas
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    Jan 25, 2016 4:40 AM in response to ansolas

    Using 10.11.3

  • by ansolas,

    ansolas ansolas Feb 6, 2016 6:46 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 6, 2016 6:46 AM in response to ansolas

    bump

  • by gaiarec1,

    gaiarec1 gaiarec1 Feb 6, 2016 1:51 PM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 6, 2016 1:51 PM in response to ansolas

    I'm having terrible lag problems with 10.2.1. Until this is solved I had to go back on 10.2

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Feb 6, 2016 6:37 PM in response to gaiarec1
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    Feb 6, 2016 6:37 PM in response to gaiarec1

    No problems here with any GUI lag, (that wasn't already present to a minor degree depending on system loads... n 10.2 or 10.1.1)  on any of my main and testbed systems....

     

    2015 iMac 5K 32GB

    2011 iMac 32GB

    2015 Mac Pro 32GB

    2013 Macbook Pro 16GB

    2011 Mac Mini Server 16GB

     

    All using Motu interfaces... and running either OS X 10.10.5, 10.11.3 or 10.11.4b with LPX 10.2.1

  • by ansolas,

    ansolas ansolas Feb 7, 2016 2:58 AM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Feb 7, 2016 2:58 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

    Please try to replicate whet I am showing in the vide.

    Open Ultrabeat or es2, exs24

    Play notes on the keyboard while tweaking a knob fast.

    Have a look at the VU meters.

    On my systems the knob and the VU meters get laggy while the tooltip keeps fluid

  • by I want My ES2,

    I want My ES2 I want My ES2 Feb 7, 2016 8:08 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 7, 2016 8:08 AM in response to ansolas

    What I'm seeing on my system in Logic and Pro Tools is moving the Tracks area or Edit page in PT with 2 fingers on my trackpad will make the counter and meters laggy. So, both "edit" area in both DAW are suffering from this. Just move the pointer to the track header section, again in both programs, doesn't make the GUI laggy. Logic X and PT 12 most recent versions on 101.11.3. But I don't have any problems when moving knobs in a plugin.

  • by ansolas,

    ansolas ansolas Feb 7, 2016 8:10 AM in response to I want My ES2
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    Feb 7, 2016 8:10 AM in response to I want My ES2

    Have you tried tweaking a knob of a synth with incoming notes ? (on playback)

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Feb 7, 2016 8:36 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 7, 2016 8:36 AM in response to ansolas

    ansolas wrote:

     

    Please try to replicate whet I am showing in the vide.

     

     

    I did and I couldn't replicate it to any worse degree than it was under 10.2 or 10.1.1

     

    There has always been some lag visually for me.. when I manipulate a control on the screen with a mouse..but its only visual... so I don't worry too much about it.. as it doesn't affect what is being recorded... and frankly I assign controller sliders and knobs on my P6 these days.. to handle such things and then I see no lag at all because Im not looking at the screen.

  • by I want My ES2,

    I want My ES2 I want My ES2 Feb 7, 2016 9:12 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 7, 2016 9:12 AM in response to ansolas

    NO lag fot me while tweaking a knob while I play notes and playback of a project. MBA 2013 11". The devs are in for a treat on this lag problem as nobody seems to have the same problems with it. Good luck pinpointing it. I have no system tweaks or plugins/extensions, barebone OSX and all my third party stuff is legit( not that I think it would change anything on the GUI front).

  • by The Art Of Sound,

    The Art Of Sound The Art Of Sound Feb 7, 2016 9:42 AM in response to I want My ES2
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    Feb 7, 2016 9:42 AM in response to I want My ES2

    Such differences in performance can be related to...

     

    1) Differences in internal Hardware (Graphic Cards and drivers or simply CPU resources and memory)

     

    2) Differences in  external Hardware and quality of drivers... (Audio/Midi devices for example)

     

    3) Other apps/drivers/hardware installed...

     

    4) Different workflows... which highlight different issues... that others may not notice because their workflow is different.

     

    5) System specific issues.... or problems..

     

    6) Murphy's (Sod's) Law

  • by ansolas,Helpful

    ansolas ansolas Feb 15, 2016 5:15 AM in response to The Art Of Sound
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    Feb 15, 2016 5:15 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

    I just found a workaround !

     

    If I remove the Main VU Meters from the Tool Bar the Lags are gone !

     

    00000095-1.png

  • by ansolas,Helpful

    ansolas ansolas Feb 27, 2016 10:15 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 27, 2016 10:15 AM in response to ansolas

    I could even narrow it more down,

     

    If any VU meter is shown in the Arrange Window Tracks the Graphics get spiggish again.

    If just the Mixer Channel VU is shown anything is smooth

     

     

    00000100.png

  • by ansolas,

    ansolas ansolas Feb 27, 2016 10:23 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 27, 2016 10:23 AM in response to ansolas

    arg wrong button ! it is NOT SOLVED !

  • by ansolas,

    ansolas ansolas Feb 27, 2016 10:26 AM in response to ansolas
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    Feb 27, 2016 10:26 AM in response to ansolas

    arg wrong button ! it is NOT SOLVED !

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