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Q: How to reinstall AHT on my iMac early 2008

My imac 8, 1, early 2008, now has Yosemite installed, after Leopard and then Snow Lepoard. AHT will not load with option D or the nline version, ans as I don't have the original disks so I don't seem to be able to perform the test. Is there somewhere I can download and install AHT from?

 

I suppose my 2nd Q is does this matter? Are there better/easier ways of testing the mainboard etc?

 

Thanks.

 

PS. I had to type my Q 3 times to get to this point. 1. Type Q and then login; 2 type again; 3. Q appears in summary box so edit down and then type again below summary box. 

iPhone 4S, iOS 6.1.3

Posted on Feb 4, 2016 11:43 PM

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  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Feb 5, 2016 3:00 AM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 5, 2016 3:00 AM in response to Sago48

    You can not download the AHT from Apple or the internet.

     

    To run the AHT you need disc #2 that originally came with your iMac.

     

    Your best bet is to contact Apple Support and order a replacement disc set.

    Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support

  • by Mike Sombrio,Apple recommended

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 8, 2016 1:17 PM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 8, 2016 1:17 PM in response to Sago48

    I've not tried this but you have nothing to lose.

    How to run AHT w/o the system discs

     

    1) SHUT DOWN the computer (Don't RESTART... shut it down)

     

    2) Hold down the OPTION + D keys

     

    3) Press the Power Button (make sure to hold down the OPTION + D keys first)

     

    4) Continue to hold down the OPTION + D keys until the system enters AHT mode

     

    5) Let the app verify the hardware setup before initiating the test.

     

    6) There are two testing modes. To select the "Extended Test" activate the check box below the Test button.

     

    7) Press Test button to begin test


    If that doesn't work you can look here to see if your version is available https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest

  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Feb 5, 2016 4:52 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 5, 2016 4:52 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Great job as usual Mike. I didn't realize that a Hardware Test for the older Mac models was available on-line.

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 5, 2016 6:01 PM in response to den.thed
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    Feb 5, 2016 6:01 PM in response to den.thed

    Thanks. Like I said I've never tried it but I'm going to have to just to know if it does work.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 8, 2016 1:45 AM in response to den.thed
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    Feb 8, 2016 1:45 AM in response to den.thed

    Thanks for the suggestions. I had tried D and option D  - the online one - and neither achieved anything. I followed the link in Mike's post to github and installed the relevant .diagnostics file in coreservices but that also made no difference. It's possible I didn't do it right of course. I've now contacted apple support who will send original discs in about a week, which I hope will work.

     

    Many thanks for the helpful replies.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 8, 2016 1:19 PM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 8, 2016 1:19 PM in response to Sago48

    I decided to have anther go at installing the .diagnostics file from the GitHub link and whaddya know it worked. Have run the AHT and no problems detected. Time to look elsewhere. Many thanks.

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 8, 2016 5:43 PM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 8, 2016 5:43 PM in response to Sago48

    Maybe if you tell us what the problem is we can offer some suggestions.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 9, 2016 4:32 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 9, 2016 4:32 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    I decided to have anther go at installing the .diagnostics file from the GitHub link and whammy know it worked. Have run the AHT and no problems detected. Time to look elsewhere. Many thanks.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 9, 2016 4:56 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 9, 2016 4:56 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Well, this is in fact my Dad's mac and I've been using it whilst on a extended stay with him. It's an iMac 8,1 with the original spec - so 2gb ram and a 2.66 Core 2 Duo chip, plus a 320 SATA hard drive. The OS was Leopard, upgraded to Snow Leopard, clean install, by me. A while back I partitioned the hard drive to allow me to add a more up to date OS so he could try it and see if he could adapt - he's 94 now. I tried for Mavericks, which looks very much like SL, but I just couldn't get it onto his mac. Apple seems all very Windows these days and despite my best efforts I gave up on Mavericks. So I installed Yosemite and it's too different for him as it turns out. I've not upgraded it to El Capitan as it looks as though it's not really compatible with this mac.

     

    I've got the same problem regardless of which OS I boot into. Most programmes I open bounce in the dock for a long time. They rarely close without using force quit. Sometimes they simply don't open at all. The browsers seem to be the main problem in that after using Safari, Chrome, or Firefox for say half an hour they start to slow down and then all I get is the spinner. If I close say Safari and use Chorme then Chrome will be Ok for 20 mins or so and then jam up.

     

    Activity monitor shows large amounts of memory being used by the browsers after a while - 1.5 of the 2 gigs. But it doesn't show an memory pressure - all green and low. My usual approach would be to add 2 gigs and see - but I'm not sure that's the problem. I have a mac mini 2014 core i5 and 4 gigs of memory which shipped with Mavericks and after a few months it ground to a halt. Apple's fixers said just reinstall the OS - not a "genius" solution as it has pretty much ground to a halt again now with El Capitan installed.

     

    So I looked at a hardware issue first  - the AHT - and as I know very little about OSX that's as far as I've got. My assumption is that Apple concentrates on other products these days and the OS for actual computers doesn't get the care it needs. When these things have happened with windows I've usually given up and installed the relevant Linux to get the machine to run, but that's not an option here I don't think.

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 9, 2016 7:01 AM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 9, 2016 7:01 AM in response to Sago48

    The last OS that ran "well" in 2Gb of ram is Snow Leopard, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions and say that you "need" to upgrade the ram. That would help but your problem sounds like something caused by a software problem. Would you run and post an EtreCheck report so we can get a look at the system and what's running? http://etrecheck.com/

    AHT is a good start but it's not always accurate when it doesn't report an error and it doesn't address software issues at all, but it's what they give us so maybe an EtreCheck report will show something obvious.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 10, 2016 2:13 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 10, 2016 2:13 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Thanks mike - here it is

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.3 (253)

    Report generated 2016-02-10 09:17:30

    Download EtreCheck from http://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 5:23

    Performance: Below Average

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Computer is too slow

     

    Hardware Information:

        iMac (20-inch, Early 2008)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        iMac - model: iMac8,1

        1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        2 GB RAM - Insufficient RAM! Upgradeable - [Instructions]

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM1

                1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

     

    Video Information:

        ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro - VRAM: 256 MB

            iMac 1680 x 1050

     

    System Software:

        OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 (14F1605) - Time since boot: about one day

     

    Disk Information:

        ST3320820AS_Q disk0 : (320.07 GB) (Rotational)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /Volumes/Macintosh HD : 159.86 GB (62.93 GB free)

            Macintosh HD 2 (disk0s3) / : 159.21 GB (109.79 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s4) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information:

        HP Deskjet D2500 series

        Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

            Primax Electronics Apple Optical USB Mouse

            Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

    Gatekeeper:

        Anywhere

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [killed]    com.apple.CallHistoryPluginHelper.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.icloud.fmfd.plist

        [loaded]    149 Apple tasks

        [running]    61 Apple tasks

        2 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [killed]    com.apple.ctkd.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.ifdreader.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.nehelper.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.periodic-weekly.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.tccd.system.plist

        [killed]    com.apple.wdhelper.plist

        [loaded]    177 Apple tasks

        [running]    79 Apple tasks

        6 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

     

    Launch Daemons:

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Support]

     

    User Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Support]

        [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Support]

     

    User Login Items:

        iTunesHelper    Application  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

        Android File Transfer Agent    Application  (~/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000004.EtreCheck

        [running]    com.google.android.mtpagent.6280

        [running]    com.microsoft.Outlook.137204

        [running]    com.microsoft.Word.137772

        [running]    com.microsoft.alerts.daemon.188892

        [running]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.fba.153108

        [running]    com.microsoft.outlook.databasedaemon.139476

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.6.0 - SDK 10.6 [Support]

        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 20.0.0.286 - SDK 10.6 [Support]

        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

        Flash Player: Version: 20.0.0.286 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update

        Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10

     

    Safari Extensions:

        AdBlock

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        Flash Player  [Support]

     

    Time Machine:

        Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

             5%    WindowServer

             3%    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(5)

             3%    mdworker(6)

             1%    kernel_task

             1%    Dock

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        502 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(5)

        262 MB    kernel_task

        92 MB    Safari

        51 MB    mdworker(6)

        43 MB    Finder

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        41 MB    Free RAM

        1.96 GB    Used RAM (400 MB Cached)

        49 MB    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Feb 8, 2016, 07:27:11 PM    Self test - passed

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 10, 2016 3:34 AM in response to Sago48
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    Feb 10, 2016 3:34 AM in response to Sago48

    Not seeing any of the "usual suspects" software wise. It looks like the biggest problem is insufficient ram.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 10, 2016 6:53 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 10, 2016 6:53 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Yes seem pretty clear. I'll reboot intoSnow Leopard and see what that produces. Thanks Mike.

  • by Sago48,

    Sago48 Sago48 Feb 10, 2016 8:44 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 10, 2016 8:44 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Hi Mike

     

    This is the read out from Etrecheck on Snow Leopard

     

    treCheck version: 2.9.3 (253)

    Report generated 2016-02-10 15:04:32

    Download EtreCheck from http://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 5:32

    Performance: Below Average

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Computer is too slow

     

    Hardware Information:

        iMac (20-inch, Early 2008)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        iMac - model: iMac8,1

        1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        2 GB RAM - Insufficient RAM!

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM1

                1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

     

    Video Information:

        ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro - VRAM: 256 MB

            iMac 1680 x 1050

            spdisplays_display_connector

     

    System Software:

        OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 (10K549) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information:

        ST3320820AS_Q disk0 : (298.09 GB) (Rotational)

            - (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 159.86 GB (62.65 GB free)

            Macintosh HD 2 (disk0s3) /Volumes/Macintosh HD 2 : 159.21 GB (110.05 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s4) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information:

        Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

            Primax Electronics Apple Optical USB Mouse

            Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

        HP Deskjet D2500 series

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

    Startup Items:

        HP IO: Path: /Library/StartupItems/HP IO

        HP Trap Monitor: Path: /Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor

        Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    64 Apple tasks

        [running]    10 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [loaded]    141 Apple tasks

        [running]    30 Apple tasks

     

    Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.hp.help.tocgenerator.plist [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons:

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Support]

     

    User Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.bittorrent.uTorrent.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Support]

        [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Support]

     

    User Login Items:

        Safari    Application  (/Applications/Safari.app)

        Android File Transfer Agent    Application  (~/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

        HP Scheduler    Application  (/Library/Application Support/Hewlett-Packard/Software Update/HP Scheduler.app)

        HPEventHandler    Application  (/Library/Printers/hp/hpio/HPEventHandler.app)

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    [0x0-0x10010].com.google.android.mtpagent

        [running]    [0x0-0x1d01d].com.etresoft.EtreCheck

        [running]    [0x0-0xc00c].com.hp.HPEventHandler

        [running]    com.hp.devicemonitor

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.1.4 [Support]

        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 20.0.0.286 - SDK 10.6 [Support]

        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 13.9.8 - SDK 10.6 Check version

        Flash Player: Version: 20.0.0.286 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update

        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.6.6

        OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.2.0 [Support]

        Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Support]

        Mozillaplug: Version: 1.0

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.1.0 [Support]

        Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60831.0 [Support]

        iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.7

     

    Safari Extensions:

        AdBlock

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

        iSightAudio: Version: 7.6.6

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        AppTrap  [Support]

        Flash Player  [Support]

        Flip4Mac WMV  [Support]

        MacFUSE  [Support]

        Tuxera NTFS  [Support]

     

    Time Machine:

        Time Machine information requires OS X 10.8 "Moutain Lion" or later.

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

             4%    WindowServer

             2%    mdworker

             1%    ps

             1%    WebProcess

             1%    Dock

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        459 MB    WebProcess

        242 MB    Safari

        80 MB    App Store

        41 MB    WindowServer

        35 MB    mds

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        519 MB    Free RAM

        1.49 GB    Used RAM

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Feb 10, 2016, 02:55:10 PM    Self test - passed

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