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Q: iPhone 6 error 53

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I have an iPhone 6s Plus running iOS 9.

 

I do not use, nor ever have, used fingerprint scanner for security nor wish to.

 

If I were ever to have to get 3rd party repair work, relating to the hardware affected, carried out on this iPhone, would apples error 53 "security" still brick my phone to keep me "secure"?

 

A clear cut answer to this question may shed some light on error 53, and possibly apples intentions in this regard.

 

samb0b

iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 9.1

Posted on Feb 5, 2016 4:52 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 9, 2016 8:20 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:20 AM in response to samb0b

    samb0b wrote:

     

    The moderator keeps editing and or deleting mine and other peoples posts from this thread. I did not intentionally press "solved"... if I did it was a mistake and I did not know about it, but I suspected the moderator because they have been editing my replies and deleting posts willy nilly.

     

    I want just want clarification (from more than 1 source) if the update in iOS 9 will brick my phone should I get a non-certified Apple repair carried out on the phone(s)! I also do not appreciate being told to setup touch ID when I made it clear I did not want to do this. How is this an appropriate reply to my query?

     

    Apple need to sort this out, and quickly! I would say that they should be able to patch this out in a future release of iOS?

     

    I am angry learning about this and feel very uncertain about mine and my wifes 6s iPhones for the future!

     

    Thank you.

     

    samb0b

    No they are not, and yes you did mark the posts as solved. If not solved why did you mark it as such?

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Feb 9, 2016 8:21 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:21 AM in response to samb0b

    If you replace the HOME button and you have a 5S, or any 6 series model your phone will be bricked if you restore it. The HOME button is paired with the fingerprint store on the logic board, and if a replacement is not properly paired (which requires special equipment) the phone's security is considered compromised and it will not survive an upgrade or iOS restore.

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 8:22 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:22 AM in response to samb0b

    I am raising this direct with Apple now as I hoped I would find the answer, but it looks like there may be no answer until Apple remove this so called security feature, which in my case is completely unnecessary.

     

    I do feel it is an interesting topic for the community to discuss though! I just wish the moderator would allow us to speak freely!

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Feb 9, 2016 8:34 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:34 AM in response to samb0b

    samb0b wrote:

     

    Show me exactly what I have violated in the Terms of Use please?

    When the Hosts deleted or edited your posts, they send you an email explaining why (unless your post was a response to a deleted post). Check your spam filter if you don't see it.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Feb 9, 2016 8:41 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:41 AM in response to samb0b

    samb0b wrote:

     

    I am raising this direct with Apple now as I hoped I would find the answer, but it looks like there may be no answer until Apple remove this so called security feature, which in my case is completely unnecessary.

     

    I do feel it is an interesting topic for the community to discuss though! I just wish the moderator would allow us to speak freely!

    This is a technical support forum. Discussion of Apple policies and policy decisions is prohibited by the Terms if Use.

    If you really want to discuss it, go discuss it on Facebook or reddit or something.

  • by ZikzakCorp,

    ZikzakCorp ZikzakCorp Feb 9, 2016 8:44 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:44 AM in response to samb0b

    If you had fully stated your concern to begin with, you might have gotten better responses. The answer is yes, you can no longer replace your home button yourself if you have an iPhone with Touch ID. You must use an Apple authorized technician. Yes, that's more expensive, but it's the only alternative. Since the phones are made by Apple, they have the right to do what they wish. I've already posted the link to complain to Apple about the policy. Beyond that, there is nothing left to say.

     

    If you read the terms of service, you'll see that several things aren't allowed here, including speculation on Apple's policies, attempts to poll users, and abusive speech. Any personal information will also be deleted or edited. Like Lawrence said, the moderator who edited or deleted the posts should have sent an email explaining why.

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 8:50 AM in response to ZikzakCorp
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:50 AM in response to ZikzakCorp

    It is not the only alternative. I am going to write to Apple and they will change this.

     

    Yes, the iPhone is made by Apple, but the £700 I paid for it was made by me. I have the right to do with it what I will, I own it now, not Apple, they sold it to me and now I have ownership.

     

    This security feature is indented to protect my fingerprint ID by bricking my phone, but I have no fingerprint ID to protect so this feature should not apply to me, wouldn't you agree?

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 8:51 AM in response to Csound1
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:51 AM in response to Csound1

    If you read my reply properly you will see...


    "I did not intentionally press "solved"... if I did it was a mistake and I did not know about it,"

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 8:55 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Feb 9, 2016 8:55 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    I have checked all my email folders and filters.

     

    I did not receive any notification from the moderator that they had edited my original reply to Lawrence. This frustrated me.

     

    I have today received an email from them after they have deleted and edited more of my posts.

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 9:02 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Feb 9, 2016 9:02 AM in response to KiltedTim

    The issue I have raised is a technical one which unfortunately has been caused by Apple policy.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Feb 9, 2016 9:35 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 9:35 AM in response to samb0b

    The 'technical issue' has been explained to you. Whining and ranting about it here won't change anything. No one here can change anything.

  • by TJBUSMC1973,

    TJBUSMC1973 TJBUSMC1973 Feb 9, 2016 9:44 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 9, 2016 9:44 AM in response to samb0b

    samb0b wrote:

     

    It is not the only alternative. I am going to write to Apple and they will change this.

     

    Yes, the iPhone is made by Apple, but the £700 I paid for it was made by me. I have the right to do with it what I will, I own it now, not Apple, they sold it to me and now I have ownership.

     

    This security feature is indented to protect my fingerprint ID by bricking my phone, but I have no fingerprint ID to protect so this feature should not apply to me, wouldn't you agree?

     

    Yes, but you don't own the operating system (iOS).  You have a software license agreement, not ownership.  And if you break your agreement with Apple, you can lose your PRIVILEGE to that use the software.

     

    And it is the only alternative if you wish to maintain the status of your warranty with Apple, and the ability to use any of their services or support.

     

    Let me get this straight:  You have not yet had to have any service done on your device, but you're preemptively making sure that if you decide to VIOLATE your hardware warranty, that if you run into any issues, you can hold Apple liable?

     

    heh

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    heheh

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    HEHEH

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  

     

     

    Oh, man!  That was priceless!  Thank you of that laugh, it felt good.

     

    You go right ahead and write Apple.  You're stating that they will change this... um... or what?  Exactly what will you do?

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 4:23 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Feb 9, 2016 4:23 PM in response to KiltedTim

    OK, thank you.

  • by samb0b,

    samb0b samb0b Feb 9, 2016 4:37 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973
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    Feb 9, 2016 4:37 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973

    I was talking about once the limited 1 year warranty expires.

  • by TJBUSMC1973,

    TJBUSMC1973 TJBUSMC1973 Feb 10, 2016 9:37 AM in response to samb0b
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    Feb 10, 2016 9:37 AM in response to samb0b

    samb0b wrote:

     

    I was talking about once the limited 1 year warranty expires.

     

    What about it?  Once the one-year warranty expires, all that does is mean that any service the device would need is no longer free, but has an out-of-warranty fee.  That's essentially all the warranty does; remove the cost of servicing the device for a manufacturing or workmanship defect.

     

    It doesn't change anything about whether or not you are allowed to self-service the device.  Whether you do that on day one of ownership or day 1,000, if you allow unauthorized service on the device, then ALL support from Apple, whether it would be in or out of warranty, is no longer available.  That even includes the software license agreement.

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