Q: iPhone 6 fingerprint error 53

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

When Apple has been paid in full for the phone, they don't get to tell me what I can and can't do with my property.  I have the right to repair it as I see fit.  When the device works after the repair, they don't get to destroy my property for any reason.  Apple recognized that voluntarily, and would have been made to recognize it in a court of law.

You sure do.  And Apple has the right to choose not to provide service, support, or even access to their proprietary software (iOS) if the terms of that agreement or violated by the user.

Multi-billion?

deggie wrote:

 

Multi-billion?

Probably, if you include every appliance repair shop, every non-dealer auto repair shop, independent aircraft mechanics, all of the contractors who work for manufacturers on 1099 contracts, etc.

If you're talking about just independent iphone repair shops, I doubt that it exceeds a $million. 

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

We're talking about whether or not the statement of 'intent' is truthful or not.

Exactly. And with Apple's knowledge and understanding of the repair industry, it's likely they knew the outcome. But good on them for fixing the problem!

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

Did Apple design the iPhone to be user-serviceable?  No.

 

 

Not user serviceable. But they are definitely serviceable.

You would be surprised. I'm only a one man business... and last financial year my gross annual turnover was AUD$150,000. Keep in mind I repair all consumer electronics... not just Apple products.

There are some companies who have multiple locations employing dozens of technicians.

In my city of only 400,000 there are about 10 repair shops (that's over 1 Million dollars just in my city). Then spread that across the entire globe.

This is real competition for Apple.

No, it isn't.

SunOfRa78 wrote:

 

This is real competition for Apple.

Good to see you're developing a sense of humor.

deggie wrote:

 

No, it isn't.

Ok... it's true, it's no competition for Apple. What was I thinking!

Anyway... yes, Multi-Billion.

SunOfRa78 wrote:

 

deggie wrote:

 

No, it isn't.

Ok... it's true, it's no competition for Apple. What was I thinking!

Anyway... yes, Multi-Billion.

Cite your sources.

If you insist...http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11851627.htm

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

If you insist...http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11851627.htm

Thank you, larger than I imagined. That $1.4B includes all cell phones, not just iPhones, and probably includes some of the AASPs. But it's still impressive.

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

If you insist...http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11851627.htm

Thank you for the source.  Now, let's look at it more closely.

1) That article refers to the entire cell phone repair industry.  It doesn't limit it to only third-party repair shops.  Therefore, that includes Apple & AASPs.

2) It states that the average annual is $1.4 billion.  That's not 'multi-billion'.  Multi billion would have to be at least 'two'.  And how much of that $1.4 billion is spent through Apple or an AASP?  Let's be generous and assume that unauthorized third-party shops actually service 80% of all iPhones that need repair.  That's probably a ludicrously high number, but for the sake of argument, we'll give it to you.

3) iPhones make up only about 43% of the smartphone market.  So, that means that approximately only $602 million of that $1.4 billion is being spent on iPhone repairs.

4) Now let's give the third-parties that 80% we mentioned.  Still very generous, but let's not quibble, shall we?  So now it's about $482 million.

So, still off by a factor of about 4 until it hits 'multi-billion'.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

If you insist...http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11851627.htm

 

 

 

Thank you for the source. 

I find the source a bit questionable. It's from a website that provides PR and marketing information. It comes from a company called IbisWorld. It sites no sources for its numbers other than a quote from an Ibisworld employee. It's a potential start but, by itself, a bit thin.

Meg St._Clair wrote:

 

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

If you insist...http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11851627.htm

 

 

 

Thank you for the source. 

I find the source a bit questionable. It's from a website that provides PR and marketing information. It comes from a company called IbisWorld. It sites no sources for its numbers other than a quote from an Ibisworld employee. It's a potential start but, by itself, a bit thin.

Agreed.  And yet, even with the potentially biased source, the numbers still do not show that unauthorized third-party iPhone repair is a 'multi-billion' dollar industry.

I was kind of saving the whole 'questionable source' as a silver bullet, so to speak.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

 

I was kind of saving the whole 'questionable source' as a silver bullet, so to speak.

Oops, sorry!