Q: iPhone 6 fingerprint error 53

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

Why are you guys squabbling over trivia?  

Did you know that 85% of all iPhones repaired at unauthorized service centers are infected with malware within 2 weeks after the service is completed?

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

Why are you guys squabbling over trivia? 

 

Did you know that 85% of all iPhones repaired at unauthorized service centers are infected with malware within 2 weeks after the service is completed?

Actually, I didn't, and I think you made it up to prove a point. But there's no way to disprove it, either. I see you are close to level 6. I look forward to meeting you in The Lounge when you reach it, because I've got some great stories about statistics like the ones being thrown around here. but I don't want to clutter up this thread, either.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

 

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

Why are you guys squabbling over trivia?

 

Did you know that 85% of all iPhones repaired at unauthorized service centers are infected with malware within 2 weeks after the service is completed?

Actually, I didn't, and I think you made it up to prove a point. But there's no way to disprove it, either. I see you are close to level 6. I look forward to meeting you in The Lounge when you reach it, because I've got some great stories about statistics like the ones being thrown around here. but I don't want to clutter up this thread, either.

LOL, thanks Lawrence.  Agreed.

And, I' not even sure how I have points ending in '4'.  Where did I lose a single point or gain 4, since it's usually 5 for helping and 10 for solving?  Very odd.

Well, actually 4 is not an odd number, but you get my meaning.

Awesome, thanks for sticking with it.  Are you the same guy signed up for training in April? You should get to know both Ben Duffy and Crittie Roberts.  I know that Crittie was active here briefly but either got banned or couldn't stand the constant criticism.  They both do great work in your area.

Perhaps you two should re-read the TOU?  I think posting personal information is prohibited, and posting other people's personal information falls under that as well.

No.  Even the folks setting their phone's date to 1970 are smart enough to recognize ridiculousness when they see it.

How about this---the independent repair industry is certainly big enough to be on on Apple's radar screen because Apple is not dumb.  Where there are millions or billions of dollars going to independent repair is not really an important distinction.   If they weren't concerned about the potential impact they wouldn't bother to send lobbyists to visit legislators considering a right to repair bill.

Apple wants the easy dollars for easy repair that requires little training, no troubleshooting time.  A simple cracked screen on a late model device?  Yes.  A screen swap on a device with frame damage? Nope.  Cracked screen on an older iPad? Naw. Troubleshooting repairable board level defects? Heck no, are you crazy?  Who has time for that!

Independent repair only gets to be a problem for Apple when sales slump because eventually it becomes impossible to innovate new compelling features that will make people willing to spend the bucks to replace their functioning model.  Then their model must shift---in order to maintain the sales figures their business depends on, they *really* need people to stop fixing up their phones.  An 18 month life cycle for a phone is ideal.  But when people are keeping their phones going for 3 years?  That starts to hurt.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

 

And, I' not even sure how I have points ending in '4'.  Where did I lose a single point or gain 4, since it's usually 5 for helping and 10 for solving?  Very odd.

Well, actually 4 is not an odd number, but you get my meaning.

The point system is getting more complex. If the hosts chose one of your posts as "Apple Recommended" you get 7 points. So 2 of those could account for the "4". You can also get points if 5 people who are not the OP mark your post as "helpful".

As does nearly every post on these long off-topic threads that are not a technical

solution to the OP's post, including many of yours.  I think the Apple host moderators do a great job and I'll leave the moderating up to them.

Why do you think the hosts allow these long off-topic threads? Think about it. I know, but I'm under NDA

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

No.  Even the folks setting their phone's date to 1970 are smart enough to recognize ridiculousness when they see it.

How about this---the independent repair industry is certainly big enough to be on on Apple's radar screen because Apple is not dumb.  Where there are millions or billions of dollars going to independent repair is not really an important distinction.   If they weren't concerned about the potential impact they wouldn't bother to send lobbyists to visit legislators considering a right to repair bill.

 

Apple wants the easy dollars for easy repair that requires little training, no troubleshooting time.  A simple cracked screen on a late model device?  Yes.  A screen swap on a device with frame damage? Nope.  Cracked screen on an older iPad? Naw. Troubleshooting repairable board level defects? Heck no, are you crazy?  Who has time for that!

 

Independent repair only gets to be a problem for Apple when sales slump because eventually it becomes impossible to innovate new compelling features that will make people willing to spend the bucks to replace their functioning model.  Then their model must shift---in order to maintain the sales figures their business depends on, they *really* need people to stop fixing up their phones.  An 18 month life cycle for a phone is ideal.  But when people are keeping their phones going for 3 years?  That starts to hurt.

I'm so sorry.  You obviously didn't recognize sarcasm when presented.  You're responding to my 'claim' that 85% of those iPhones get malware.  That was sarcasm.  That was intended to point out that if someone makes a claim, then they should be prepared to defend it or provide supporting information.

You believe that Apple is fighting against unauthorized repairs because of 'potential loss of revenue from repair service'.  I disagree.  I see it as protecting the integrity of the brand.  You yourself have admitted that not all 'independent iPhone repair shops' are as good as you, and that there is no industry self-regulation.  So those customers that get unauthorized service and then an error occurs and the shop doesn't take care of it, then they turn to Apple.  And Apple can't really set a precedent of taking care of any and all issues caused by unauthorized third parties.  Who doe the customer blame?  Apple.   It's about protecting the name.

And as far as protecting a profit margin?  As a stockholder, I pay very close attention to where the profit is coming from.  And it's not primarily from the iPhone sales.  Oh, sure, that's a portion of it.  But the far more lucrative portion is iTunes & App Store purchases.  Apple has every reason to want more people to have usable iPhones.  And whether that's a 4S or a 6S Plus, that really doesn't matter to them.  Because Apple could stop making iPhones today and still gather revenue from those sales in the iTunes & App Store.  Apple gets to profit ONCE from an iPhone sale.  But they profit continually and regularly from iTunes/App Store sales

Why have an OOW swap option in the first place if they're trying to 'maintain sales figures'?  Why offer to extend the one year warranty to two years with AC+?  The you look a the bigger picture, your claim makes no sense.  It's really no different than those that claim that Apple intentionally releases iOS updates that will make older models completely unusable...

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

As does nearly every post on these long off-topic threads that are not a technical

solution to the OP's post, including many of yours.  I think the Apple host moderators do a great job and I'll leave the moderating up to them.

Where have I posted my or anyone else's personal information?

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

As does nearly every post on these long off-topic threads that are not a technical

solution to the OP's post, including many of yours.  I think the Apple host moderators do a great job and I'll leave the moderating up to them.

 

Where have I posted my or anyone else's personal information?

If you're going to be a rule follower, and call people out for not following the rules--you have to follow ALL the rules.  For

example, this very post is not a technical solution to a problem, and is therefore against the rules.

Whoa--lets talk about citing sources.  Where did you get this?

"You believe that Apple is fighting against unauthorized repairs because of 'potential loss of revenue from repair service'."

Oh I have some ideas.  Honestly, my hope is that some of what I put on this forum in terms of common faults will find their way to the right ears and make a better iPhone, and better training for customer facing Apple Store employees. 

mendonipadrehab wrote:

 

Oh I have some ideas.  Honestly, my hope is that some of what I put on this forum in terms of common faults will find their way to the right ears and make a better iPhone, and better training for customer facing Apple Store employees. 

Which is not the purpose of this forum. Use the feedback link and stop cluttering up the forum with your personal agenda. If you want to gain any respect, help people and leave the rest at the door.