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Feb 28, 2016 9:59 PM in response to ParhamSby gail from maine,Not sure why that would be happening to you. I have never had anything in Photos asking me to name a face. I use iPhoto, Aperture, and Photos, and none of them require me to label my photos.
In fact, I can only add a label for a face if I click the Info option and click on the "+" to Add a Face.
Maybe you are referring to a different process or view than the one I use? As with the previous posts about iPhoto, I am not seeing that behavior, so I'm not understanding how the issue arises?
Cheers,
GB
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Feb 28, 2016 10:34 PM in response to ParhamSby Terence Devlin,There is no removal of user choice. The choice never existed in the app. Photos is a free, giveaway app. It is not a replacement for Aperture. The option remans in Aperture.
There are no implications for Privacy if you don't add names. Without you doing that, what does anyone know? That there's a face (or in some cases I've seen, a tyre, a rock) in the photo, and no more.
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Feb 29, 2016 12:59 AM in response to Terence Devlinby ParhamS,Aperture is discontinued, replaced with photos.
From Apple:
"With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture. When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS X"
Unlike Aperture, Photos does not have option to disable analysis.
Photos is not a free throw in. Its an integrated part of OS with and agent always running. I paid $3000 for the Hardware/Software package.
User's personal photos are subjected to analysis and categorization without the option to disable or even a prompt. Regardless of standard of privacy, a settings option to opt in/out would hardly be controversial.
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Feb 29, 2016 7:37 AM in response to ParhamSby gail from maine,You are sadly misinformed. If you have no iCloud options turned on in Photos, then the application is a local application only. And it is not any more an "integrated part of the OS" than iPhoto was. It is a core app.
You do not have to use any of the iCloud options in Photos. You do not have to use Faces, unless possibly you used it before so now it prompts - I don't know because I never used it in iPhoto/Aperture.
We are fully aware of the state of iPhoto and Aperture in terms of further development of iPhoto and Aperture. The fact that they are no longer being developed does not obviate the ability to continue to use them. If and when an OS X comes out that simply will not allow those apps to run due to incompatible processing features, then you won't be able to use them. Until then, they are as functional now as they were when Photos was introduced.
So, again, not sure what it is you are objecting to here....
GB
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Feb 29, 2016 8:16 AM in response to ParhamSby Terence Devlin,"With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture. When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS X"
Where exactly does that say that Photos replaced Aperture? It says that Photos can migrate an Aperture Library, that's all. Photos is far less capable than Aperture is a lot of ways, but then, a free giveaway app would hardly be expected to have the same capability as a $70 one.
Aperture still runs and Faces can be disabled in Aperture. No loss of capability in Aperture there. Photos never had it so no loss there either.
I paid $3000 for the Hardware/Software package.
Well if Aperture was still on sale you'd have paid $3,070.
User's personal photos are subjected to analysis and categorization without the option to disable or even a prompt
How is that different from any other database app? Photos, iPhoto, Aperture, Lightroom, Picasa all do that - at the very least they mine metadata from the Exif for the basics of organisation. But as to the Faces feature specifically: If you don't put the information into it - i.e. put names to the faces - what will "they" know? Seriously? Where is your privacy compromised any more than it was with the faces feature turned off in Aperture?
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Feb 29, 2016 3:40 PM in response to gail from maineby ParhamS,I am objecting to the lack of option to turn off faces all together. I still use aperture as I paid for it and have not found a better alternative.
I am not misinformed, I looked into it myself. I may be drawing the wrong conclusions.
BTW - iphotos was included in the OSX? Photos is.
Spotlight (yes it is a different software than iphoto or photos - in case someone is planning point that out) has option for excluding drives from being indexed. Itunes has options for searching though media files to match with Apple Music. I hoped the same for photos. The software is doing something I don't want it to do.
I tried Google's app Picasa, it indexes user folders without asking first and UI is not all that.
I am not afraid of Apple (they). I am a bit unsatisfied with lack of an opt in/out and was asking for help in that regard.
Although I appreciate the responses, the lecturing on what I should be happy with is pointless.
It appears that what's acceptable or desirable for us Apple customers has a wide range.
Thanks
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Feb 29, 2016 10:51 PM in response to ParhamSby Terence Devlin,Who seem confused. Every file you have on your computer is mined for data. Even the most basic things like file creation dates are extracted from the file without your expressed permission. No one is tell you that you should be happy. What I'm saying is the the Faces feature has no privacy implications for you at all. You might as well object to the Finder extracting the creation date. If you're not happy to have your data mined in this way it's quite simple: don't use a computer. If you have specific worries about Faces - unnecessary as thy are - then use another app.