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Q: iPhone 6 Plus Car Play no longer works

I believe I've nailed down a bug. And I can only confirm it with Apple iPhone 6 Plus.

 

Issue: If you Reset your iPhone 6 Plus, your device will no longer work with Apple Car Play (more specifically the Alpine ilx-007).

 

Brief: I bought the Alpine ILX-007 to use with my iPhone 6. At first it worked alright, but every 15 to 20 minutes or so it would disconnect, it would drop calls, or just not work. Unplugging it and plugging it back into the USB sometimes fixed the issue, but it was always a temporary fix. Consulting with the stereo manufacturer, they advised that I reset my iPhone. Settings > General > Reset > Erase All Content and Settings. Doing so wiped everything and returned me to a "stock" iphone. When I plugged in the iPhone this time, I got an instant pop up (paraphrasing) "This USB device is not supported". I went from being able to connect to Car Play but not having it work properly, to not being able to connect at all, whatsoever. At the shop we plugged in two other iPhones, a 5 and another 6 plus and both of them worked with car play.

 

Full story below;

 

I went home and did a restore to a previous backup (to no avail), and then I did another reset, but neither fixed the issue. From then on, I could only get the "USB device not supported" message whenever I plugged in that phone.

 

I returned the phone to the Apple store. They swapped my phone on the spot and I got a new iPhone 6 plus (thanks!). I downloaded two songs to test out the head unit when I returned to my car and car play worked 100% just fine.

 

I returned home to restore my phone and data from a backup and iTunes went from 8 minutes to restore, to 40 minutes, to 8 hours. It hung at 8 hours and didn't budge. I only had 500 songs to sync. I removed my phone from the computer and restarted it. Nothing out of the ordinary it worked fine. But because it was restoring and got hung, I decided to wipe it back to stock via Reset, just to be sure there wasn't going to be any issues. After resetting the phone, I plugged it back into the computer, synced all of my songs back to the phone no problem. Excited, I ran back to my car and plugged it in... "This USB device is not supported".

 

Looking back, the only thing that happened both times was the phone was Reset. I thought about the incomplete restore possibly causing an issue, but everything other than car play works fine AND when I did the original reset, there was no restoration involved. All I did was reset the phone.

 

I believe a driver, or some file or something that is necessary for Car Play does not get restored when you Reset your phone. Everything other than Car Play seems to be working just fine.

 

I could go back to the apple store, say its not working again and possibly get another swap, but I don't wish to waste more phones, nor do I want to have to hope that I never need to reset or wipe my phone in order to enjoy music in my car. So as of right now, I have an iPhone 6 that works well (outside of car play) and a brand new $800 head unit that only lets me listen to the radio

 

Please look into this, I really wanted car play to work and enjoy my phone and car synchronization but at this point I'm frustrated and disappointed to be honest. I'm posting this bug to help keep other customers from ending up in this same situation, and hopefully you all can find and fix the problem.

 

Thanks for your time, hope to hear back.

 

-Larry Charles

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 8.3

Posted on May 8, 2015 11:12 AM

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  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Feb 20, 2016 6:40 AM in response to Chillman789
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    Feb 20, 2016 6:40 AM in response to Chillman789

    Guys i went to the VW dealer nearby, they looked at the system, checked the latest firmware version, it was the latest version. They hooked up an other iphone 6S and it worked like a charm, hooked up my iphone6 to check if it worked,and as expected, it didn't work.... VW mechanic went to talk to some other colleagues and he came back telling me that the car and the Discover Pro2 unit worked perfectly fine. The problem is my iphone6 and that is that, consult apple support they told me they must help you on this one, VW done all they can.

     

    it is up to apple support now 100%. I had to nudge them because i didn't hear from them for over 2 weeks. The support guy i got on looked at my case and said, apples corporate engineering are looking into it. Be patient Mr.

     

    AFter 2 days i got an email, with the question if i had an MSExchange account on my iphone and if i had one to delete it, hard reset my iphone6 and try it again..

     

    I emailed him back, telling him that i recently had reset the iphone as a new iphone, that intol them already, so no backup and totally clean of any emailaccount...

    i tested it anyway, deleting the msexchange account, but you can already guess it, again it does not work.

     

    So now i am 23 hours of testing down the road, frustration levels reaching boiling point. Apple does not have an answer yet,

    Proof is there, Apple does totally not care to solve this case quickly. i asked the support guy if when it cannot be fixed i do get a refund or swap or anything, that COULD be the case but only after Apple has done everything they can to solve it, could take a year the guy said!!

     

    what do you guys think of this? A phone costing 800€  a car that costs 48750€, and a feature they sell and do so much marketing for just does not work... Carplay does not work for me

     

    I Must wait and see, the shear waste of time spent is appalling, Shame on Apple support, selling the most expensive devices yet not making it work

     

    i Hope someone can help me, and if you also have this problem of not getting carplay to work in your car, please let us know here.

  • by David Prendergast,

    David Prendergast David Prendergast Feb 20, 2016 7:31 AM in response to Worldin
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    Feb 20, 2016 7:31 AM in response to Worldin

    Verifying that this worked on 2016 VW GTI as well. CarPlay had "disappeared" spontaneously. Selecting App-Connect and then iPhone brought it back.

  • by Chillman789,

    Chillman789 Chillman789 Feb 20, 2016 12:44 PM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Feb 20, 2016 12:44 PM in response to reivaxtilburg

    I have a 2015 late May VW Passat. Discover Nav Pro not compatible to iPhone 6s due to non agreement of Apple to Car Play at that time so some features work but NOT app connect and Mirrorlink! Annoying!

  • by 007139,

    007139 007139 Feb 21, 2016 12:00 AM in response to Fratam
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    Feb 21, 2016 12:00 AM in response to Fratam

    Hi Fratam,

    I was wondering if you ever found a solution to the problem with connecting car play on your iPhone and Pioneer head unit? I am suffering similar problems with one of these and still struggling for a solution.

    Cheers,

    Dave.

  • by AlexisMH,

    AlexisMH AlexisMH Feb 22, 2016 12:50 AM in response to 007139
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    Feb 22, 2016 12:50 AM in response to 007139

    Gah! This is my problem too. I have a Pioneer 8100NEX and I was so thrilled when their firmware update last year allowed CarPlay to work. The Bluetooth connection was always pretty fussy, but I could usually get it to behave. Then after the last iPhone update (9.2.1), Bluetooth in CarPlay stopped working completely. When I plug in the USB so my phone can communicate with the head unit, I lose the BT connection and cannot get it back, no matter what I do. I've tried all sorts of things on my side--cold boot on the phone, fiddling with the settings on the head unit, attempting to reinstall the firmware update, and nothing.

  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Feb 25, 2016 7:34 AM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Feb 25, 2016 7:34 AM in response to reivaxtilburg

    ok here we go, UPDATE! THE SOLUTION

     

    Tested 2 other iphones, a 5 and another 6, both work instantly! Carplay booted up immediately, no waiting no extra fiddling around with bluetooth on or off.

     

    Made a picture of both iPhones working with the Discover Pro2.

     

    Called Apple Support in stead of waiting it out for them to call me, Senior advisor, told me, dear sir, you've done everything you possibly could to fix the issue, it still does not work, so we narrowed it down to most possibly a hardware issue with your particular iPhone6, we are sorry for the inconvenience and therefore we grant you a swap at one of our Retail Stores in the Netherlands.

     

    Hopefully this ends my case of an iPhone6 not working with carplay on a VW Discover pro2 unit.

     

    if any of you want to know the steps to take to get this swap, be a DIE HARD and do not take NO for an answer. Do not consult VW, but consult APPLE support for a fix and do not wait for IOS updates in this case, logically hardware issues cannot be solved this way

    #backwardcompatibility Phones and operating systems are WAY ahead development cyclewise.

  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Feb 27, 2016 11:48 AM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Feb 27, 2016 11:48 AM in response to reivaxtilburg

    SOLUTION CONFIRMED!!!!!

     

    Apple swapped my iPhone6 today for a new iPhone6.

    Connected it to the Discovery Pro2 system USB1 and ot works now.

     

    i use carplay for playing podcasts like A state of Trance and Hardwell On Air & Jordy Dazz

    The sound quality via Carplay is amazing.

     

    So end good all good.

     

    for any of you struggling with an iPhone that does not want to connect to Carplay, do not hesitate and SWAP your iPhone immediately.

  • by Chillman789,

    Chillman789 Chillman789 Feb 27, 2016 3:27 PM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Feb 27, 2016 3:27 PM in response to reivaxtilburg

    Do the Apps connect Via the USB? What age is you VW? I have been reliably told that the VW Passat early - mid May 2015 cannot be made compatible To apps but DOES Bluetooth and CarNet?

  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Feb 27, 2016 11:03 PM in response to Chillman789
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    Feb 27, 2016 11:03 PM in response to Chillman789

    Yes sad but true, they are working on a bluetooth connection still but the automotive industry is way slower than modern smartphone developers, VW especially, their CarNet app is buggy and slow as well. After market car audio devices are also way ahead of Carplay solutions. They have the advantage of not working with the roadmap of an official production car. Personally i find it strange that these days you still cannot buy a car that is configureable with your type of smartphone dock or iPad or Tablet dock, so that the ipad or smartphone becomes your cardisplay, car manufacturers would only need to provide a built-in universal amplifier. I think it has to do with the extra profit they would lose if this was the case. Car manufacturers Audio units are insanely expensive compared to the actual cost of the hardware...

  • by marsha02,

    marsha02 marsha02 Feb 28, 2016 11:15 AM in response to flip5577
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    Feb 28, 2016 11:15 AM in response to flip5577

    Thank God I stumbled upon this thanks for the heads up I really appreciate it ! I just had my unit installed yesterday omg I love it well worth the 800 bucks. Now if iPhone would use google maps app I'd me much more happier. iTunes maps Omg takes me somewhere else every tin I use it. I am a traveler because I am a homecare nurse and use Google maps a lot wished Apple would reconsider using google maps or for Godsake FIX the iTunes maps so I don't wind up in BFE trying to find the correct way to get to my destination!  Any advice on this issue would certainly be appreciated Thank you . 

  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Mar 1, 2016 6:53 AM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Mar 1, 2016 6:53 AM in response to reivaxtilburg

    Update to solution above, if unit does not connect, factory reset the iPhone and hold the powerbutton of the Discover Pro2 for more than 10 seconds, after both have rebooted, reconnect, if that does not work, reset the factory setting of Appconnect on the Discover Pro2, and reconnect. Took me some fiddling and tries, but now it seems to be stable.

  • by Chillman789,

    Chillman789 Chillman789 Mar 1, 2016 9:01 AM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Mar 1, 2016 9:01 AM in response to reivaxtilburg

    Once more - there is no app connect possible on Discover Pro 2 if factory installed mid May bought 2015. The hardware and software are NOT COMPATIBLE with iPhone 6s / apple software UNTIL 5 weeks after this date but the sales reps at VW said nothing about this or VE as no-one appeared to know! Mirrorlink does not work either. Carnet does at a push but you have to keep finding Hotspot Then Client after that! Confused with latest iPod too on Bluetooth for phone / music! Gracenote software is rubbish to link to iOS Apple. NO SOLUTION possible unless you pay a fortune for a rebuild?!

  • by reivaxtilburg,

    reivaxtilburg reivaxtilburg Mar 2, 2016 11:12 AM in response to Chillman789
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    Mar 2, 2016 11:12 AM in response to Chillman789

    Have been testing it out for a few days now, Carplay and the iPhone6 is not really stable, sometimes the connection is suddenly lost, sometimes you need to reconnect a few times. But when it works, the audio quality via lightning cable is awesome, much better than via Bluetooth.

     

    CArplay? Yes it's worth it, but apple please fix these bugs!!

  • by marsha02,

    marsha02 marsha02 Mar 2, 2016 12:36 PM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Mar 2, 2016 12:36 PM in response to reivaxtilburg

    DDoing the same to me   yes it is a nice console want to activate Sirusxm but cannot locate the ID number they say it is on the back of the console **** the console has already been installed, anybody know where else to locate the ID number to activate Sirusxm ? Possibly the manual?

  • by msper64,

    msper64 msper64 Mar 7, 2016 10:34 AM in response to reivaxtilburg
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    Mar 7, 2016 10:34 AM in response to reivaxtilburg

    My iPhone 6s has never worked with Carplay on my 2016 Chevy Malibu. Swapped it out at Apple Store for brand new 6s; still doesn't work. My wife's iPhone 6 works perfectly with Carplay on my car. Waiting on Apple....

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